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all of mafia:Tremendous Taste posted:I feel like frank grimes in the Simpsons where he looks at a blithering idiot just doing nonsensical and ridiculous things and at the end of the day I'm the one getting fired.
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Haha I couldn't remember the context for that but yes
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Sep 28, 2015 21:42
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The idea of right reasons and wrong reasons is very self-centered and undeservedly superior. Some cases are more supported than others, and some people are more persuasive than others, but if you believe that certain actions are indicative of a scum mindset then that's valid. Moreso if a majority of people also believe that this is a scummy thing and you are scum for it.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:45
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No, that's the opinion of people who aren't able to self correct for whatever reason. Most people realize that what Ecco said is right.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:46
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If you are scum and a majority of people are voting for you and you are sitting there thinking  "they don't deserve this lynch, they aren't even voting me for the right reasons" then you need to get over yourself.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:48
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If you think 2+2=5 so scum, that's not a legitimate reason. Even if you bag a scum by accident.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:48
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holy poo poo... meinberg is paul walhburg
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Sep 28, 2015 21:49
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we are the sociopaths making fun of him for his sanity it all adds up
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Sep 28, 2015 21:50
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Here are two things that are objectively wrong in mafia: I'm voting for X because I don't like them I'm voting for myself because X
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Sep 28, 2015 21:50
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You're being too result-oriented, Asii. If I roll a D12 to decide who I'm vigging and hit scum, that doesn't mean that rolling a D12 was a good idea.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:51
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Tremendous Taste posted:If you think 2+2=5 so scum, that's not a legitimate reason. Even if you bag a scum by accident. If the majority of people believe 2+2=5 so scum, it's a legitimate reason because mafia is a social game and not a math problem. There is no objective truth.
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Pinterest Mom posted:You're being too result-oriented, Asii. If I roll a D12 to decide who I'm vigging and hit scum, that doesn't mean that rolling a D12 was a good idea. I'm talking about being lynched by a majority of players.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:52
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No, that isn't so. Sorry.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:52
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I do have to agree with Ecco to an extent. I have the belief that keeping yourself from being lynched is one of the most important skills a mafia player needs (whether town or scum) and there's a reason some players have meta for being constantly lynched D1 despite playing with different people. It's very rare for me to be lynched in games these days, when it happens it's normally because I've gone for one of my big plays and it's all gone horribly wrong. But in general I'm good at getting out of heat and I think it's been the biggest improvement to my game. If you let yourself get lynched then you've cost your team a player, if you're town then you've cost them the only player you know is town and you've also prevented yourself from applying the rest of your mafia abilities to the rest of the game.
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I was super frustrated in my first scum game where Jake picked me off absolutely nothing and i melted down which obviously didn't help. but since then I've had the balancing experiences of towns moving their cases from me for no reason when I should have been dead to rights. balungo baluño
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Sep 28, 2015 21:53
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Asiina posted:I'm talking about being lynched by a majority of players. What if the players decide who to dunk by rolling all their dice at once, and repeating until someone has a majority. If you hit scum, does that make it a good idea?
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Pinterest Mom posted:What if the players decide who to dunk by rolling all their dice at once, and repeating until someone has a majority. If you hit scum, does that make it a good idea? good idea. Lets start doing this, I have SO MANY DICE.
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Rarity posted:I do have to agree with Ecco to an extent. I have the belief that keeping yourself from being lynched is one of the most important skills a mafia player needs (whether town or scum) and there's a reason some players have meta for being constantly lynched D1 despite playing with different people. It's very rare for me to be lynched in games these days, when it happens it's normally because I've gone for one of my big plays and it's all gone horribly wrong. But in general I'm good at getting out of heat and I think it's been the biggest improvement to my game. If you let yourself get lynched then you've cost your team a player, if you're town then you've cost them the only player you know is town and you've also prevented yourself from applying the rest of your mafia abilities to the rest of the game.
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Asiina posted:If the majority of people believe 2+2=5 so scum, it's a legitimate reason because mafia is a social game and not a math problem. If 5 out of 9 people want to smear poo poo on themselves, that's their right, but it just means the majority is stupid
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Sep 28, 2015 21:54
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Whoah. Did ecco...just get owned?!?!?!?!
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Sep 28, 2015 21:55
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Pinterest Mom posted:You're being too result-oriented, Asii. If I roll a D12 to decide who I'm vigging and hit scum, that doesn't mean that rolling a D12 was a good idea. To expand on this, if I make a case on the fact that I rolled a D12 and this person came up as scum, I'm not going to get a majority of people to agree with me based on that logic. There has to be something to my case that other people can see as not arbitrary or random in order to get people to agree with me. Your dice rolling example doesn't have that.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:55
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No, there doesn't. People are often incredibly lazy and sometimes a veneer of logic is enough. That's all.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:56
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Tremendous Taste posted:If 5 out of 9 people want to smear poo poo on themselves, that's their right, but it just means the majority is stupid And if you can't manage to convince them that smearing poo poo on themselves is a bad idea, that has nothing to do with you and your ability to be persuasive?
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Sep 28, 2015 21:57
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Tremendous Taste posted:If you think 2+2=5 so scum, that's not a legitimate reason. Even if you bag a scum by accident. so there aren't right reasons? Or there are but they're totally unquantifiable game to game?
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Sep 28, 2015 21:58
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Asiina posted:And if you can't manage to convince them that smearing poo poo on themselves is a bad idea, that has nothing to do with you and your ability to be persuasive? Do you think you were dunked for the right reason on the final day of Wild and Crazy Kids?
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Sep 28, 2015 21:58
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Asiina posted:And if you can't manage to convince them that smearing poo poo on themselves is a bad idea, that has nothing to do with you and your ability to be persuasive? not necessarily. some people could see god in front of them and stay atheist
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Sep 28, 2015 21:59
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Pinterest Mom posted:Do you think you were dunked for the right reason on the final day of Wild and Crazy Kids? I think I failed at being persuasive.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:59
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the right reasons a genuine connection Welcome to the Bachelor Mansion you did not receive a rose
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Sep 28, 2015 22:00
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this is why i left you guys for so long it was like living in a broken home
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Sep 28, 2015 22:02
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It's just funny to me that this "your logic is bad" only comes up when it's the arguer that's getting voted for.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:03
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I'd hope that no town player would pursue a case knowingly relying on terrible logic
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Sep 28, 2015 22:04
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If I could selfhammer to end this discussion I would.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:04
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i just want us to stop fighting anymore and for someone to tell me i did a good job in the school play
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Sep 28, 2015 22:04
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Poison Mushroom posted:It's just funny to me that this "your logic is bad" only comes up when it's the arguer that's getting voted for. That's not so. I tell people their logic is bad all the time from a neutral position :P
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Sep 28, 2015 22:05
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I think everybody should just do whatever they think would be funniest and things will probably work out okay.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:05
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mr.capps posted:i just want us to stop fighting anymore and for someone to tell me i did a good job in the school play You did so good, you were the best tree I've ever seen stand still in a forest
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Sep 28, 2015 22:05
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Just so everybody knows, nobody in this thread is mafia, nobody is trying fool anyone into believing something that's wrong. You're trying to convince people of something, not trying to show why they're wrong/lying and you're right Be nice 
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Sep 28, 2015 22:05
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mr.capps posted:i just want us to stop fighting anymore and for someone to tell me i did a good job in the school play You did amazing. Amazing.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:06
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mr.capps posted:i just want us to stop fighting anymore and for someone to tell me i did a good job in the school play I'm proud of you and all the accomplishments your sixth grade teacher tells us about during parent teacher conferences.
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mr.capps posted:i just want us to stop fighting anymore and for someone to tell me i did a good job in the school play Capps, you always do a great job in the school play. You don't need any of us to tell you that because you know you are a superior actor of the highest caliber.
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