DrVenkman posted:

I actually agree with Foley in what he says about Eva Marie. She isn't good enough, but if she puts in the work then it at least shows she wants to be there. I don't by any means think she'll be able to lead a match, just that she'll be in one. She's in a weird lovely sub-Reigns situation in that she's about to get pushed too early and is getting resistance at every turn. If she was just a 'featured player' in NXT and not someone they're trying to get to the main roster as soon as possible then she would do a lot better. But then all I've actually seen of her is this recent run, so I don't have that white hot hatred for her.

Marquis de Pyro posted:

I think a big issue with women's wrestling is that it's way harder to push people who are poor workers.

Traditionally when you have a male worker being pushed as a top guy despite being limited in the ring, they look like Braun Strowman or Ryback. You can in kayfabe terms put it over that they're just ridiculously strong and tough so they don't need technique.

No one is going to believe that about Eva Marie, so if it's also clear that she's slow, awkward, and lacking in technique, it just destroys any match where you're trying to put her over someone who is clearly way better than her.

I guess that's, you know, the mentality, of an old school kind of person and normally I find that irrelevant, but it just makes me groan watching her matches

Marquis de Pyro posted:

I think a big issue with women's wrestling is that it's way harder to push people who are poor workers.

Traditionally when you have a male worker being pushed as a top guy despite being limited in the ring, they look like Braun Strowman or Ryback. You can in kayfabe terms put it over that they're just ridiculously strong and tough so they don't need technique.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Not only that, but some dudes are able to mitigate poor ring work with mic skills. The women on WWE's roster who are poor workers are also poor promos.

Revenant Threshold posted:

Everyone that's on NXT that's a poor worker is a poor promo. The only exception I can think of was Enzo, and he's getting decent in the ring now.

It's not that you can't have women who are poor workers promoted as monsters - look at Chyna. It's that WWE for years gave zero shits about a) any level of wrestling ability and b) any kind of consistent booking. And women who were the physical equivalents of someone like Strowman or Ryback weren't ever going to get signed.

flashy_mcflash posted:

On an article about Kurt Angle's brother killing his wife:

projecthalaxy posted:

Actually yeah it was. He grabbed his wife's wrists, planted his feet on her chest, and then straightened out, damaging her ribs and arms a whole lot. I mean I wouldn't have made the connection, but it's the same technique.

ShootaBoy posted:

projecthalaxy posted:

Well stop liking that. That goes for this tumblr rando and in fact everyone. End creepy bad deathmatches 2K15

ShootaBoy posted:

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peter21wcw wrote on 07.06.2015:
[1.0] "Brian Cage is the best thing to happen to this company, I actually think this company sucks a lot of people like it so much New Japan Pro Wrestling who is the best company in the world and Lucha Underground is 10 times better than this crappy company you guys make it butt hurt but it's true if they're so good why don't they have a television show even ROH has a television program case closed pwg Sucks!"

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Doctor Rags wrote on 23.04.2015:
[1.0] "The Young Bucks embody everything wrong with indie wrestling. Their disregard for basic match psychology and storytelling in lieu of pandering, convoluted, suspension-of-disbelief shattering maneuvers lazily and liberally sprinkled with cheap pop superkicks is so infuriating that it's almost impossible to either take them seriously or appreciate the finesse that their moves require. In brief, they wrestle less like wrestlers and more like videogame AI."

Ruiner87 wrote on 16.08.2015:
[3.0] "Would care about their matches if anybody ever bothered to sell, or if there was structure, or if they made any effort to make me care. I tune out whenever these guys are on my screen. The gimmick is irritating, and the matches are just a blur of moves and spots that look like someone's match from a video game."

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mhayne wrote on 04.04.2015:
[0.0] "Daniel Bryan has very average mic skills, but has terrible acting skills and in-ring ability. His one redeeming factor is his ability to engage the audience with his yes chants, and even then it just get annoying and uninteresting. However, he could potentially be decent as a low-carder on WWE Main Event. Overall, Daniel Bryan is just not enjoyable to watch."


MrHonor wrote on 09.03.2015:
[0.0] "Daniel Bryan's career repose on fans. Without them, he is nothing. There is so many wrestler better wrestlers who are not pushed because of his fanbase who want to put him as the WWE Champion, the main eventer, the face of the WWE, the ultimate wrestler. However, he has no mic skill and is promo can be sum up by "Yes". Furthermore, fans critic John Cena for his "Five Moves of Doom" but Daniel Bryan use only his kicks, his knee and his Yes Lock. Also, he looks like someone who never enter in a weight room and it's not admissible if he must work as a top wreslter in the WWE."

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Phenomenal91 wrote on 22.08.2014:
[0.0] "With the possible exception of the brief reign of Mike Adamle, this woman was the worst "on air official" in WWE history. She did not belong in the wrestling business in any way, shape or form, and the exploitative, controversial things she did in the ring did nothing but disrespect her late husband's memory. I'm glad she's gone and I hope she never comes back."

Gonzo McFee posted:

People who shout loudest about ring psychology don't have a loving clue towards what it is or it's purpose. Although that could be said about anything discussed on the internet.

sticklefifer posted:

To be fair, as hilarious and entertaining as she can be, Vickie Guerrero is a terrible actor.

sticklefifer posted:

To be fair, as hilarious and entertaining as she can be, Vickie Guerrero is a terrible actor.

Rodney the Piper posted:

Daniel Bryan

Gonzo McFee posted:

I'd take Vickie over Stephanie every day of the week.

Bard Maddox posted:

if Stephanie had nothing good happen to her, got nothing but comeuppance, and was shamed every time she was on screen like she was Vickie, the world would be a better place I think

Aesop Poprock posted:

In the early 2000s it happened all the time, but what's the last time HHH or Steph have been actually humiliated on screen? I wouldn't count Rousey

Memento posted:

Also for HHH the time he tried to get a "Thank you Hunter" chant going or something similar, when it looked like he was going to retire after one of the Brock matches. The crowd poo poo all over his promo from a great height.

Alain Post posted:

When's the last time there's even been a threat to the Authority? This is like WWE: The Man In The High Castle or some poo poo.