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Yeah, no, Scooby Doo has pretty much always been about the Mystery Gang being rather dumb as they stumble their way through poor animation quality to a solution to a mystery that involves a costume monster. The show is probably fine and the dissenters might have outgrown the series' usual main stays.
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Yeah, Mystery Inc was fantastic and Pup was alright but every other version of Scooby Doo has pretty much been garbage.
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Oct 1, 2015 02:00
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ThermoPhysical posted:Mystery Incorporated wasn't that bad. Mystery Inc rules but it's like the sole bright spot like almost half a century of crummy Scooby-Doo cartoons. That and maybe the one miniseries with Vincent Price, and even then that's more due to camp/irony than anything else. I'll give the live-action movie credit too because it was written by James Gunn.
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Oct 1, 2015 02:04
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It does not help my perception of Scooby Doo that Cartoon Network aired about 12 hours of it per day during my formative years.
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Oct 1, 2015 02:04
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Flobbster posted:Haha, yeah, the fact that there are people commenting on these videos as if there is some grand "Scooby Doo legacy" being tarnished here is laughable. It's probably more due to the fact that this is what they chose to follow up Mystery Inc. which is not only the best Scooby Doo series (a low bar to be sure) but a surprisingly good show in its own right.
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Oct 1, 2015 02:05
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Sleeveless posted:Mystery Inc rules but it's like the sole bright spot like almost half a century of crummy Scooby-Doo cartoons. That and maybe the one miniseries with Vincent Price, and even then that's more due to camp/irony than anything else. That one episode of OG scooby doo featuring Jerry Reed was pretty good
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Oct 1, 2015 02:36
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axleblaze posted:Yeah, Mystery Inc was fantastic and Pup was alright but every other version of Scooby Doo has pretty much been garbage.
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Oct 1, 2015 02:38
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I liked the older movie where Shaggy and Scooby were teachers at the monster school. It was during that weird period where they got rid of the rest of the gang and replaced them with Scrappy.
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Oct 1, 2015 04:01
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I recognize that it's always been garbage but I've always found a campy appeal in Scooby Doo. I've probably seen a good 85% of all of Scooby Doo, I'd wager. And a good chunk of that is Shaggy and Scooby Doo Get a Clue. Should try and find that some time. And there's a lot of Scooby Doo.
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Oct 1, 2015 05:23
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Flobbster posted:Haha, yeah, the fact that there are people commenting on these videos as if there is some grand "Scooby Doo legacy" being tarnished here is laughable. It's a shame that CN can't seem to stop themselves from being on and off with Scooby Doo (What's New was pretty good at being what it was, the one after that was a loada nothin' and then we got MI) but yeah comparisons to "Your new favourite show" are unwarranted right now. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Oct 1, 2015 06:24
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The thing I don't get is why Scooby-Doo. I just mean, how did Scooby-Doo survive when almost everything else didn't? Sure, every now and then they'll make a random Flintstones or Tom and Jerry movie, and Loony Toons gets rebooted sometimes. Disney makes a Mickey short every 5 years if they feel like it, but I feel like Scooby-Doo has this really bizarre tenacity, where it just never stops getting new series or movies. I just wish I understood why this one franchise in particular keeps coming back. I'm sure it must move merchandise, but that just moves the question to "why does this franchise have such a good ability to sell poo poo?"
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Oct 1, 2015 08:30
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Jsor posted:The thing I don't get is why Scooby-Doo. I just mean, how did Scooby-Doo survive when almost everything else didn't? Sure, every now and then they'll make a random Flintstones or Tom and Jerry movie, and Loony Toons gets rebooted sometimes. Disney makes a Mickey short every 5 years if they feel like it, but I feel like Scooby-Doo has this really bizarre tenacity, where it just never stops getting new series or movies. I just wish I understood why this one franchise in particular keeps coming back. I'm sure it must move merchandise, but that just moves the question to "why does this franchise have such a good ability to sell poo poo?" Never underestimate the power of a talking dog.
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Oct 1, 2015 08:40
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axleblaze posted:Yeah, Mystery Inc was fantastic and Pup was alright but every other version of Scooby Doo has pretty much been garbage. Are you implying that Scooby Doo and Kiss: Rock and Roll Mystery is not a masterpiece of cinema?
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Oct 1, 2015 08:44
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Jsor posted:Disney makes a Mickey short every 5 years if they feel like it, It's quite a bit more frequent than that.
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Oct 1, 2015 11:15
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Scooby Doo has always circled around mediocrity, but it's been really memorable mediocrity. The original cartoons were okay for their day, and even though Hannah Barbara put out like a million different cartoons based on the same concept, Scooby Doo's the only one that had any staying power. Nobody remembers Dune Buggy or The Funky Phantom, but everybody remembers Scooby Doo. The best reason I can think of is that maybe it was grounded enough that it had more room to go when it had to reinvent itself later. Scooby Doo's gone through a lot of changes over the years, whereas a lot of the other classic cartoons never really survived past a couple iterations of reinvention. Also reruns and direct to TV movies kept interest in it alive throughout the 90s when there weren't technically any new Scooby shows coming out. I don't know if that's because of its appeal or the will of network executives. Seth MacFarlane's been threatening to remake the Flinstones for a while, but nothing's ever come of it.
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Oct 1, 2015 16:50
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I'm pretty sure it's 100% because of merchandise. I see people with Scooby stuff all the time. It's one of those brands that has a lot of pull for parents who don't actually watch the new shows but remember it from their youth and buy their kids shirts, etc. ESPECIALLY dog lovers. The people who constantly post Facebook statuses about how people should stop being prejudiced against pitbulls. I feel the same way about Mickey Mouse, though. Every kid knows who he is but has probably never watched anything with him in in it.
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Oct 1, 2015 16:52
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ThermoPhysical posted:Mystery Incorporated is pretty much the best Scooby-Doo ever and I refuse to believe otherwise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6qtATgpe4Q
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Oct 1, 2015 18:04
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Jsor posted:The thing I don't get is why Scooby-Doo. I just mean, how did Scooby-Doo survive when almost everything else didn't? Sure, every now and then they'll make a random Flintstones or Tom and Jerry movie, and Loony Toons gets rebooted sometimes. Disney makes a Mickey short every 5 years if they feel like it, but I feel like Scooby-Doo has this really bizarre tenacity, where it just never stops getting new series or movies. I just wish I understood why this one franchise in particular keeps coming back. I'm sure it must move merchandise, but that just moves the question to "why does this franchise have such a good ability to sell poo poo?" See also: Alvin and the Chipmunks, which has never been good.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:50
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...Ok, MI is the second best Scooby show around. I watched Pup every single day it came on and I still forgot about its existence until now.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:55
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Pup gave Freddy a personality, named Coolsville, and just generally mocked the whole concept.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:46
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Saying pup is better than MI is just ludicrous. Pup was okay and better than every other Scooby Doo but it still wasn't close to MI
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Oct 1, 2015 22:03
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Senerio posted:Pup gave Freddy a personality, named Coolsville, and just generally mocked the whole concept. I remember liking it when I was a kid and I haven't seen it in years but I get the feeling it's one of those late 80s/early 90s cartoons that really didn't age well. But yes, Pup was probably the high point for Freddy as a character.
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Oct 1, 2015 22:06
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I loving hated Pup when I was a kid. The only positive thing I took from it is that it taught me what a red herring was.
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Oct 1, 2015 22:53
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raditts posted:The only positive thing I took from it is that it taught me what a red herring was. Agreed. Though now, as an adult, I can recognize how dope the theme song was.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:31
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It's weird that Frank Welker was the original voice of Fred and still does him today.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:17
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ThermoPhysical posted:https://www.facebook.com/CartoonNetwork/videos/10153147363988372/
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Thundersword238 posted:Are you implying that Scooby Doo and Kiss: Rock and Roll Mystery is not a masterpiece of cinema? Less of a masterpiece, more of the objective best piece of media ever created.
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Pakled posted:I remember liking it when I was a kid and I haven't seen it in years but I get the feeling it's one of those late 80s/early 90s cartoons that really didn't age well. The zillion interchangeable "classic cartoon characterss only now they're kids and also totally hip and fresh yo" shows are the 90s kid equivalent of the half-hour toy commercial cartoons of the 80s, in that they're all awful and it's mind-boggling how many were made. ArmyOfMidgets posted:Less of a masterpiece, more of the objective best piece of media ever created. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1VgXrLYFtw
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Oct 2, 2015 01:00
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Oh yeah, I forgot about those. Still not sure if I like the new design, though.
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Oct 2, 2015 01:07
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How in the hell did all of you forget The New Scooby Doo Movies?  Scooby Doo and Batman/ The Harlem Globetrotters? Hell yeah, man
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Oct 2, 2015 01:09
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Corek posted:It's weird that Frank Welker was the original voice of Fred and still does him today. It's hilarious going to that website that lists voice acting roles with samples, and hearing that exact same voice from Mystery Inc to the original Sixties show, with the only difference being the audio quality.
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Oct 2, 2015 01:44
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Didn't Casey Kasem do Shaggy up until whatever series was before Mystery Inc?
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Oct 2, 2015 01:53
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PenguinKnight posted:How in the hell did all of you forget The New Scooby Doo Movies? This week, Scooby Doo meets Cass Elliot 
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Oct 2, 2015 01:58
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Sockser posted:This week, Scooby Doo meets Cass Elliot Jonathan Winters was a weird choice. Three Stooges made me sad.
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Oct 2, 2015 03:18
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We all know that the new Scooby Doo show isn't going to compare well to the good Scooby shows, but where will it compare to the bad ones? Is it going to be better or worse than Shaggy & Scooby-Doo Get a Clue?
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Less of a masterpiece, more of the objective best piece of media ever created. That is a great one, but I think the part where KISS fights rock Galactus to be the best part https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18635I-x9WY
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What baffles me is not the fact that Scooby Doo and Kiss: Rock and Roll Mystery is a thing that exists. What baffles me is the fact that Scooby Doo and Kiss: Rock and Roll Mystery is a thing that exists as of less than three months ago.
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Gaunab posted:I liked the older movie where Shaggy and Scooby were teachers at the monster school. It was during that weird period where they got rid of the rest of the gang and replaced them with Scrappy. The Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby Doo and Hanna-Barbera Superstars 10 era, yeah. The 1980s were a weird age where HB had to loving compete with poo poo like Thundercats and other Japanese animated/early dub toons that were stealing the spotlight from more ancient reruns of Yogi Bear, so you had a bunch of weird made for tv movies like Meet the Boo Brothers, Ghoul School and Reluctant Werewolf that actually made Scooby go up against Saturday morning style movie monsters and the legit supernatural instead of just criminals in masks. But as cool as anything involving Vincent Price being a giant ham was, this was also the age that went a level beyond Scrappy in adding annoying youth targeting characters like Flim-Flam. Pup probably died because it made fun of the Scooby Doo formula and was too different from the typical talking animal that solves mysteries experience to last. But I really doubt this new show will be anything worthy of following up on Mystery Inc, much less Johnny Test.
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Oct 2, 2015 15:04
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I was a little upset about the new Family Guy Scooby Doo show until I remembered that being rendered in a cheap, cookie cutter art style has been one of the franchise's defining characteristics since its inception. When Scooby Doo was first made, every cartoon on TV used that low-budget Hannah Barbera style, and then in the 90's-00's every cartoon was a variation on the Bruce Timm DCAU style which they used for "What's New Scooby Doo." These days it's Seth McFarlane's lovely crap. The only odd cartoon out AFAIK was Mystery Incorporated, but it was a beautiful aberration in many ways.
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I don't like what I'm seeing with this Daphne being way too into puppets thing. The joke seems a little forced. I wonder if Velma is going to be the Show's "Meg."
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