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Sedisp posted:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/bitcoin-ceo-researched-suicide-life-coroner-article-1.1941010 lmao if you think I didn't know this and lmao if you can't tell the difference between someone like that and the masses of investors are you sure you know how suicide works?
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peter gabriel posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/286855/bravo-cig-endeavor-is-a-homerun "I am now a Space Astronomer. As an amateur astronomer in real life the option of equip a personal space telescope blew my drat mind! I had to let go of my Hull-E but hell that thing would have only caused me head aches anyway". Yeah, really having my mind blown by the concept of looking through a video game telescope (that would be disappointing even if it were ever to exist) at a video game universe (that would be disappointing even if it were ever to exist). 3D GAY WORLD fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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I reminded of the beginning of this project. Remember when the RSI site crashed within the span of the original GDC Austin event? That evening, the website company that was hosting was trying to explain to CR that they couldn't fix the broken site. Apparently to the point of tears. The guy on server duty could not fix the broken poo poo, and simply left for the night rather than bang his head against the racks. CR wouldn't have any of their excuses. Obviously it could be done, he just hired the wrong people. Website hosting to game development are probably apples to oranges. But the conversation seems strangely familiar.
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HKS posted:also see stage 3: bargaining. As hilarious as a complete trainwreck would be, if management really has been even half as bad as rumoured, why would you want developers to lose their jobs? Especially in Manchester which seems to have been the only studio that doesn't have it's head up it's arse. There were rumours about Frankfurt a while back. I don't see Chris Roberts releasing control of the SQ42 movie so not sure anything is salvagable gamewise, but it would be nice if Foundry 42 survived as an independent UK development studio.
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I just realized that DSmart would have had a much harder job if CR and Sandi just had said "yep we are married" when they did the original kickstarter. It's not like people at that point would have been angry/suspicious at all, given the fact that it was an indi/mom and pop kind of deal anyway.
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Tarranon posted:lmao if you think I didn't know this and lmao if you can't tell the difference between someone like that and the masses of investors Okay how about, http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/08/technology/ashley-madison-suicide/ Sedisp fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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GaussianCopula posted:I just realized that DSmart would have had a much harder job if CR and Sandi just had said "yep we are married" when they did the original kickstarter. It's not like people at that point would have been angry/suspicious at all, given the fact that it was an indi/mom and pop kind of deal anyway. They actually did say that.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It's not a video game. It's a cult. While true, this cult's version of suicide is apparently "Vindictive pledging:" https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3n588f/the_only_thing_i_have_to_tell_to_all_the/  gently caress you! *Spends 1,250 dollars*
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im loving the response to this poo poo not just by CIG but also by the establishment gaming news sites, refusing to admit that CIG was loving up under their nose this whole time and they failed to do their job yet again https://twitter.com/dril/status/134787490526658561
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Incredible Chris Roberts said "click bait" three times, I've been reading his piece in small chunks as the stupid, it burns.
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Sarsapariller posted:While true, this cult's version of suicide is apparently "Vindictive pledging:" https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3n588f/the_only_thing_i_have_to_tell_to_all_the/ This is good, people might hate pledge enough that we actually get a gamahahahahahahahahahaha
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Working at CIG... From a CIG employee. A defense of CIG written from Thomas Hennessy, who, like so many other current and former CIG employees, really just seems like a decent, likable guy. I will feel bad for him and those like him if/when this thing completely implodes due to Chris and Sandi's bad behavior. (And if it really is down to $8 million, there is no one else to blame for that but them.) Absurdly, "Sandi_Gardiner" offers her thanks in reply. This whole thing is shifting from tragedy to farce and back again so fast I'm blacking out from the G-Forces. EDIT: Sandi's reply was removed, but it said something like, "Thank you so much Thomas for sharing this. I really encourage people to read other employees comments about working here, too." It linked to imgur rasters of GlassDoor reviews from hell. G0RF fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Sarsapariller posted:While true, this cult's version of suicide is apparently "Vindictive pledging:" https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3n588f/the_only_thing_i_have_to_tell_to_all_the/ My children when the comet passes the only people who will be able to ascend are the people who have no earthly possessions remaining.
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AP posted:As hilarious as a complete trainwreck would be, if management really has been even half as bad as rumoured, why would you want developers to lose their jobs? Where does all the "manchester isn't as bad as everywhere else" come from when there is still nothing more than 3 buggy and lovely tech demos available from CIG as a whole?
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can't believe Chris Roberts shot up the Oregon scool
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Chris Roberts Disputes Veracity Of New Inflammatory Star Citizen Allegationsquote:Right now, CIG and its detractors are in a very public game of “he said, she said,” with nearly $90 million from almost 1 million backers in the balance. Those with a stake in its success are holding their breath waiting to see if Star Citizen will be an epic space sim dream or a nightmare.
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Segmentation Fault posted:can't believe Chris Roberts shot up the Oregon scool 
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AP posted:As hilarious as a complete trainwreck would be, if management really has been even half as bad as rumoured, why would you want developers to lose their jobs? Every single person involved from backer to dev suffered/will suffer one way or another from this, innocent or not. You guys singling out F42 like man I hope at least something good came out of this is a sign that you are in fact going through the stages of grief. Don't pull a CR and get mad back at me okay
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Truga posted:This is good, people might hate pledge enough that we actually get a gamahahahahahahahahahaha +1 for "hate pledge" -1 for "hate pledging" being an actual thing that star citizens unironically do Nicholas fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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"Those with a stake in its success are holding their breath" Years of oxygen deprivation is a scary thing.
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Wafflz posted:Where does all the "manchester isn't as bad as everywhere else" come from when there is still nothing more than 3 buggy and lovely tech demos available from CIG as a whole? There was a trend of giving stuff to F42 to fix, retaliator, gladiator, scythe, gladius, then the leak with loads of Vanduul stuff. The actual game bit wasn't with them, so you can at least say there was more evidence they were doing something unlike Austin, Frankfurt, LA.
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the real shame is that Seraph84 was banned before this all went down
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that's about ashley Madison but if your point is that people are more likely to kill themselves when they feel like they've let everyone down and are terribly ashamed, feel like a burden or a bad person, feel worthless, clinically depressed, or any combination therein then yeah I agree with you that's the distinction I'm making. those people felt trapped and publicly humiliated. Bitcoin and starship investors will just lose money, which is embarrassing but not nearly on the same sociological level. put it this way, if God forbid anything happens to anyone over this, it's exponentially more likely it's going to be a community figure I'm embarrassed about how long this tangent has gone on so you can get a reply in but after that I suggest we drop it
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AP posted:There was a trend of giving stuff to F42 to fix, retaliator, gladiator, scythe, gladius, then the leak with loads of Vanduul stuff. The actual game bit wasn't with them, so you can at least say there was more evidence they were doing something unlike Austin, Frankfurt, LA. I see, I still wouldn't give anyone a pass until we see some actual video game happening. Segmentation Fault posted:the real shame is that Seraph84 was banned before this all went down He lives on in our hearts and some people's avatars.
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HKS posted:Every single person involved from backer to dev suffered/will suffer one way or another from this, innocent or not. You guys singling out F42 like man I hope at least something good came out of this is a sign that you are in fact going through the stages of grief. Don't pull a CR and get mad back at me okay I appreciate that there's a strong temptation to troll upset Star Citizens, it's only natural, you have my sympathies that you picked the wrong poster and pretty soon I'm just going to start laughing at you.
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peter gabriel posted:Nice ship
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Are the ships 8bit graphics on the OP, in style with the Star Citizen concept art? Whoever draw them, they are really cool!
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Tetrodotoxin posted:Are the ships 8bit graphics on the OP, in style with the Star Citizen concept art? It's Eldragon's pictures. Definitely not CIG.
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Tank Boy Ken posted:Where is Karl_Ramscheiss when we need him ? Risking his life on the front lines somewhere
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Tarranon posted:but if your point is that people are more likely to kill themselves when they feel like they've let everyone down and are terribly ashamed, feel like a burden or a bad person, feel worthless, clinically depressed, or any combination therein then yeah I agree with you ....But... I wasn't arguing that like a million Star Citizens are going to kill themselves just that the idea that no one is going to is silly. I dunno if Wulf counts as a community person but considering the poo poo he's gone through (literal electroshock therapy for depression) him committing suicide is a very real and very sad prospect. Don't get me wrong the goons longing for a mass suicide are weird and terrible but to say no one's going to because they are already used to let downs is just wrong.
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Bootcha posted:I reminded of the beginning of this project.
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Sedisp posted:....But... I wasn't arguing that like a million Star Citizens are going to kill themselves just that the idea that no one is going to is silly. I dunno if Wulf counts as a community person but considering the poo poo he's gone through (literal electroshock therapy for depression) him committing suicide is a very real and very sad prospect. Don't get me wrong the goons longing for a mass suicide are weird and terrible but to say no one's going to because they are already used to let downs is just wrong. oh my god shut up
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I would love to effort post about the psychology of suicide but probably shouldn't. All I'll say is that if someone is in the position where they might commit suicide over the failure of a game then they were suicidal before their attachment to the game and were using it as a means to ignore the true source of their pain. Therefore: The failure of this game won't make anyone commit suicide. But some suicidal people might be obsessed with this game.
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AP posted:Foundry 42 will probably keep going, I'm sure they charged CIG/RSI handsomely for their work, Erin I think has a majority stake but he might want to sack the other two directors. Erin has 70% of the shares. Chris has 15%. This company has presumably taken backer money via the other Roberts companies though and there is a very curious charge of a deposit from NatWest bank with Foundry 42 Ltd. It appears that the company put aside company money in a company bank account and agreed not to touch it. This has served as a deposit for further borrowing. This isn't a typical way you borrow money. This sort of behaviour might happen to enable a director to borrow money personally, say for a mortgage for their own house. They even get a reduced interest rate on the borrowing as all that company cash acts as security for the bank. Obviously we cannot be sure but this would count as a significant post-balance sheet event and appear as a disclosure note in the companies accounts for 2014 even though it happened in January of 2015...if the accounts were filed three months ago. For anyone curious you can see the details of the charge here: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814/filing-history/MzExNjIzNzcyMmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0
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Sir_Charles posted:oh my god shut up Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGeq21LKB78 Is slavery actually a "feature" of this game, because lol at that 1st news item.
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thatguy posted:Was your investment thrilling enough? 
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It's not a video game. It's a cult. From the Forbes post: "Forbes posted:UPDATE 2: An army of Star Citizen fans have predictably started attacking me for writing this article. Bear in mind that I'm simply reporting on a report, and liberally using words like "allegations" and "claims." However, many of you seem content to discard these allegations as false simply because Roberts says they're false, which is more disturbing than any claims contained in this article. Jesus Christ, I hadn't paid attention to this game since about early 2013. What the hell happened?
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Even though this thread has had it's ups and downs it has delivered more drama than any hollywood film and more comedy than any tv series.Generation Internet posted:From the Forbes post: They switched from "more money means you get a better game, sooner" to "buy these pictures of ships and we'll add more games into our game which we'll add someday!"
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