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Truga posted:BREAKING: In a shocking turn of events, Zombo.com LLC bought out CIG. That would be great news. Anything is possible with Zombo.com.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:15
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Oct 1, 2015 23:16
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 NOT A CULT GUYS
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Oct 1, 2015 23:16
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Sedisp posted:Would there be this much hate if she was a man? Yes there would look at Lesnick. If we replaced all mentions of Gardiner with Lesnick there would be the exact same reaction. Possibly even more so because Ben is horrible. If Sandi were a man there would be no mention of her to begin with, since no one would want to make him/her a target without some underlying prejudice to substantiate it (well assuming homophobia didn't take its place since she's now a man). As long as the evidence is thin, its credulity is linked to stereotyping women in management which is inherently sexist. Even if it turns out Sandi is a witch, right now you'd be believing the right thing for the wrong reasons. These are just allegations and she deserves the benefit of the doubt
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Oct 1, 2015 23:16
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Wow, these reactions are bizarre as hell. I have no clue how these man-children function in a normal capacity in the real world. I'll admit I'm a loving man baby that likes buying toys (actual physical products), but this SC cult is sooo bizarre.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:17
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Irrational Man posted:If Sandi were a man there would be no mention of her to begin with, since no one would want to make him/her a target without some underlying prejudice to substantiate it (well assuming homophobia didn't take its place since she's now a man). As long as the evidence is thin, its credulity is linked to stereotyping women in management which is inherently sexist. Even if it turns out Sandi is a witch, right now you'd be believing the right thing for the wrong reasons. what the gently caress are you talking about
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Oct 1, 2015 23:17
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Roberts is right. I am not worthy of a jpg space ship. I should have never doubted him.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:18
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sorla78 posted:Who cares, private companies go listed and have to publish their figures and have them audited, it's not the end of you business to be honest about your financials. It's only your end if you indeed have something to hide. There's no way out of this mess anymore unless CIG releases a financial statement, if they have been honest that^s the only way to shut everyone up - or they relase SQ42 on next Saturday. Anything else is just going to gently caress them on their revenue streams and they will go belly-up, unless someone dares to buy them out. They could release a full, audited financial statement today and the only responses from people in this thread would be either a) they've only got $x left, they're doomed! or b) They've got $x left! Clearly they've been squandering funds away to run off with instead of making the game! It doesn't matter what the value of $x is. Hell, there would probably be both responses simultaneously. The only thing that would make anyone who's already decided the game is a giant scam change their mind is if they released the game, completed, in full, with every possible feature. Just look at the response to Chris's letter here already. Last week, people were claiming they were trying to hide things by not saying anything in response to Smart's comments, lambasting them for not just coming out and making it clear Sandi and Chris were married (despite that happening literally years ago), and such. CIG does all that, and suddenly it's a sign of doom and gloom that CIG stooped to respond to such incredulous allegations, so of course they must be true! For every thing CIG actually responds to or allegation they prove false, people will just latch on to another possibility. Because none of this is really about accountability, or who's telling the truth, or whether the game gets made.
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Agrajag posted:Wow, these reactions are bizarre as hell. I have no clue how these man-children function in a normal capacity in the real world. they dont function is the answer
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Oct 1, 2015 23:18
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Sir_Charles posted:what the gently caress are you talking about Leave Sandi alone 
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Oct 1, 2015 23:19
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Been posted before, but worth posting again 
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Oct 1, 2015 23:20
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Irrational Man posted:If Sandi were a man there would be no mention of her to begin with, since no one would want to make him/her a target without some underlying prejudice to substantiate it (well assuming homophobia didn't take its place since she's now a man). As long as the evidence is thin, its credulity is linked to stereotyping women in management which is inherently sexist. Even if it turns out Sandi is a witch, right now you'd be believing the right thing for the wrong reasons. Holy poo poo, where the gently caress are you even coming up with this poo poo?
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Oct 1, 2015 23:20
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Irrational Man posted:If Sandi were a man there would be no mention of her to begin with, since no one would want to make him/her a target without some underlying prejudice to substantiate it (well assuming homophobia didn't take its place since she's now a man). As long as the evidence is thin, its credulity is linked to stereotyping women in management which is inherently sexist. Even if it turns out Sandi is a witch, right now you'd be believing the right thing for the wrong reasons. 
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Oct 1, 2015 23:20
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Octopode posted:*snip* We missed you. Or well...some may have missed your AV moreso in this time of need.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:21
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Irrational Man posted:If Sandi were a man there would be no mention of her to begin with,
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Oct 1, 2015 23:21
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Irrational Man posted:If Sandi were a man there would be no mention of her to begin with, since no one would want to make him/her a target without some underlying prejudice to substantiate it (well assuming homophobia didn't take its place since she's now a man). As long as the evidence is thin, its credulity is linked to stereotyping women in management which is inherently sexist. Even if it turns out Sandi is a witch, right now you'd be believing the right thing for the wrong reasons. Again if she was a man this thread would definitely be criticizing her. The only reason you aren't is because she is a woman. Which is again misogynistic.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:22
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Agrajag posted:Holy poo poo, where the gently caress are you even coming up with this poo poo? If you're really interested in learning, check out Anita Sarkeesian's series on women in gaming to see how sexism is rampant in the culture and industry.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:22
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Octopode posted:I've spent so much dosh on this .jpg poo poo that my mind no longer functions correctly as result. Yup, sounds about right.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:23
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Anyway, why must it be Star Citizen and not, say, Star Citizenesse? Citizennette? Citizenne?
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Oct 1, 2015 23:23
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Octopode posted:They could release a full, audited financial statement today and the only responses from people in this thread would be either a) they've only got $x left, they're doomed! or b) They've got $x left! Clearly they've been squandering funds away to run off with instead of making the game! It doesn't matter what the value of $x is. Hell, there would probably be both responses simultaneously. The only thing that would make anyone who's already decided the game is a giant scam change their mind is if they released the game, completed, in full, with every possible feature. same but ironically
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Oct 1, 2015 23:23
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Irrational Man posted:If you're really interested in learning, check out Anita Sarkeesian's series on women in gaming to see how sexism is rampant in the culture and industry. The most milquetoast toast criticism of the games industry will surely help. You can't be real.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:23
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I wonder what Curt Schilling thinks of all this.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:24
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 This really begs the question, what other games is this guy playing?
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Oct 1, 2015 23:24
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Sedisp posted:Again if she was a man this thread would definitely be criticizing her. The only reason you aren't is because she is a woman. Which is again misogynistic. Yeah! It would be misogyny not to criticize her. Listen to yourself.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:24
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Actually it's about ethics in video game company gender roles
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Oct 1, 2015 23:24
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Irrational Man posted:If you're really interested in learning, check out Anita Sarkeesian's series on women in gaming to see how sexism is rampant in the culture and industry. lol
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Oct 1, 2015 23:24
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Irrational Man posted:If you're really interested in learning, check out Anita Sarkeesian's series on women in gaming to see how sexism is rampant in the culture and industry. I feel ashamed for temporarily falling for this troll
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Oct 1, 2015 23:25
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Even if the allegations by former and current employees are bullshit, even if CIG is still flush with cash, the turnover of employees, using concept sales as a main source of income, failure to deliver important features and improvements to the game and the verifiable scope creep is not something that can be waved away with "well, it's just jealous people with an axe to grind"Gorson posted:
"They ain't allowing MUSLIMS in space now are they?" Sushi in Yiddish fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Oct 1, 2015 23:25
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Octopode posted:They could release a full, audited financial statement today and the only responses from people in this thread would be either a) they've only got $x left, they're doomed! or b) They've got $x left! Clearly they've been squandering funds away to run off with instead of making the game! It doesn't matter what the value of $x is. Hell, there would probably be both responses simultaneously. The only thing that would make anyone who's already decided the game is a giant scam change their mind is if they released the game, completed, in full, with every possible feature. That's not really true Octopode and I think you know it. I can't even read all of the Chairman's letter because it's that painful and you know how much of this poo poo I read, it's loving terrible PR. He attacked the journalist, he's completely lost the plot and sounds like one of his own fans with the "click bait" bullshit. Edit to add, Anyone with any sense would have stopped him writing that, I'm not even sure  would have gone along with it. I think it's probably the most accurate projection of him we're ever seen as he wrote it angry. Not that fake "my poor family" angry, that's been going on for months from Smart, but real "how dare the media print this about me just before Citizen Con" angry.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:25
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Gorson posted:I wonder what Curt Schilling thinks of all this. 
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Oct 1, 2015 23:27
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They should have called this Space Guys n Gals that would have avoided all the gender issues They could have had a pic of chris and sandi doing jazz hands to promote it
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Oct 1, 2015 23:27
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Irrational Man posted:Yeah! It would be misogyny not to criticize her. Listen to yourself. You had a good run but you flew to close to the sun little Icarus.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:28
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Jethro_E7 posted:This has GOT be be made into a movie. It's got everything I ever wanted. Villains, evil queen behind the throne, ambition, deceit, arrogance, rage with more to come. The Social Module
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Oct 1, 2015 23:29
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Schilling went the crowdfunding route too, but for some reason only people from Rhode Island signed up.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:29
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Irrational Man posted:If you're really interested in learning, check out Anita Sarkeesian's series on women in gaming to see how sexism is rampant in the culture and industry. this is the new millenium of trolling
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Oct 1, 2015 23:29
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Gorson posted:I wonder what Curt Schilling thinks of all this. "I'm hungry" Also I just realized, in a bout of massive irony, Chris Roberts has responded in the exact same way Derek Smart would have in the same situation.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:29
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On the other hand, Sandi was shown wearing trousers (pants), so it's a pretty nice subversion of gender roles. And I think they've promised a playable female character, even though it costs millions of dollars to mo-cap all animations for women. Thankfully, Startizens are very progressive and willingly gave millions of dollars to ensure equal gender representation in the game. Also, Social Justice Module? Yes, please!
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Oct 1, 2015 23:30
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Hey guys just checkin in on the thread and..... Ok so I missed a bunch it seems, here's some for easier reading    "Remember guys no drama will be allowed from the outside world.... and now here is our TOTALLY NOT BIASED response to the outside world drama" Seriously, all these totally legit and not forced responses from CIG employees might actually be believable if they weren't 100% positive. No company in the history of man-kind is without fault, just one employee saying 'Yeah it's a pretty good company, EXCEPT...' and I might believe em. Blue On Blue fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Irrational Man posted:If you're really interested in learning, check out Anita Sarkeesian's series on women in gaming to see how sexism is rampant in the culture and industry. Whatever you say, user account with a full page of 'trolling' ban reasons. Jesus cripes guys, you still feeding this chucklefuck and having this awesome thread derail into gamergate bullshit?
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