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Another employee has decided to talk about CIG. What a surprise.Goredema posted:This seems like an appropriate time to contribute some new content to the thread. Linked below is audio from Michael "Viewmaster" Morlan, former employee of CIG and current employee of Descendent Studios. In this exclusive interview, he details the parties responsible for Star Citizen''s failure. Holy poo poo. This is the most damning evidence yet.
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Octopode posted:CIG will continue to be inept at media relations and community management. They always have been. I was only speaking to the proclivities of the people here and elsewhere that don't really care about any of this beyond the entertainment value generated by the crossfire. The same ones spouting stuff about the game not existing or obviously being a scam despite the patently obvious thousands upon thousands of manhours of effort expended on it already, and conveniently waving away any evidence to the contrary. They will always find another reason to justify their viewpoint, no matter how little evidence there is to support it. welcome back octopode Irrational Man posted:Try again to do what? Penetrate your deeply rooted sexism? I get that since you've found a convinient excuse to ignore your entrenched prejudice you're gonna run with it since that would be easier, but all that shows is how far we have to go and how necessary Anita and Co. are. um why do you have to penetrate it? thats sexist 
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Oct 1, 2015 23:58
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Octopode posted:CIG will continue to be inept at media relations and community management. They always have been. I was only speaking to the proclivities of the people here and elsewhere that don't really care about any of this beyond the entertainment value generated by the crossfire. The same ones spouting stuff about the game not existing or obviously being a scam despite the patently obvious thousands upon thousands of manhours of effort expended on it already, and conveniently waving away any evidence to the contrary. They will always find another reason to justify their viewpoint, no matter how little evidence there is to support it. I don't think it's a scam, however at this point I don't think it's a developing game either. There is a strong case to be made about CIG overspending, maybe to the point $80+ million.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:58
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I sent my refund request on Sunday, still no response. Yesterday, I sent a follow up since I hadn't heard anything. Sent another this afternoon. Still... silence.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:00
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Irrational Man posted:If you're really interested in learning, check out Anita Sarkeesian's series on women in gaming to see how sexism is rampant in the culture and industry. 10/10 would troll again
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Oct 2, 2015 00:00
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:welcome back octopode Catching back up at work after two weeks off right at the beginning of a fiscal year doesn't leave me much time for internet spaceships.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:00
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peter gabriel posted:
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Oct 2, 2015 00:01
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I don't know that backers should be threatening anyone's bottoms. Look what happened to goatse.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:04
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OhDearGodNo posted:I don't think it's a scam, however at this point I don't think it's a developing game either. It's a badly run project but I think it's pretty obvious almighty Chris Roberts thinks that he will eventually make the best space game ever made if he can keep the money flowing.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:04
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To be fair, to see a stop to progress towards a finished game, we'd need to see actual progress towards a finished game first.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:04
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Jethro_E7 posted:My question relates to the guy who refused to stop spending even after his wife did an intervention and subsequently left him. Is he getting back with her now?  [Edit: So yeah, guy supposedly threw his and his (now-ex) wife's retirement into this game, thinking he'd reap huge profits selling the ships after release. If the house of cards goes down with his money still in there, I wouldn't be surprised about that outcome.] Valatar fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Oct 2, 2015 00:05
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:To be fair, to see a stop to progress towards a finished game, we'd need to see actual progress towards a finished game first. They have made progress, on a multiplayer fps shooter intended for a console. However that is rather different from a PC based game about spaceships full of underage sex slaves.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:06
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Nuclearmonkee posted:It's a badly run project but I think it's pretty obvious almighty Chris Roberts thinks that he will eventually make the best space game ever made if he can keep the money flowing. There are people who have completely poo poo on the world, ruined lives, conned people, and even committed atrocities, who honestly believed they were the good guy doing the right thing.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:07
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"Darling, I have a headache again but I promise I will open up those boxes in the garage as promised. See you later  I love you, Goodbye."
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Oct 2, 2015 00:07
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Meanwhile the fund-o-meter seems un-impressed, about 58k spent in the last seven hours.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:08
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Well this thread moves fast. There was one part of the Escapist Article that piqued my interest: quote:After Star Citizen's crowdfunding campaign was entered into the Guinness Book of World Records as the "Most Crowdfunded Project (Overall)," Turbulent released a statement on their website. In this statement Marc Beaudet, CEO of Turbulent, wrote "We thank Cloud Imperium Games for taking a risk with us and for contributing conceptually and commercially to making HEAP C3MS fantastic for content monetization." Of all the allegations being thrown around, this has more substance than others. It seems that Chris-R didn't notice that this comes from an official press release, because his response raises a lot of questions. If Turbulent did misrepresent CIG's involvement, that seems like something that should be cleared up, especially since this supposedly-false statement has been out there for a year. And if the software existed before they started the JV, why does Turbulent need CIG's permission to sell it to others? Also, hit pieces usually don't give their targets a chance for rebuttal in the same article.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:10
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OhDearGodNo posted:There are people who have completely poo poo on the world, ruined lives, conned people, and even committed atrocities, who honestly believed they were the good guy doing the right thing. Lando, I'm already a demon
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Oct 2, 2015 00:10
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OhDearGodNo posted:I sent my refund request on Sunday, still no response. A friend issued a refund request on the 26th and received his response requesting his give a reason on the 30th. He hasn't yet received a confirmation or denial.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:11
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Octopode posted:I had a nice long response typed up to your previous post and the internet just ate it, but I'll respond to this again at least. I think that's a fair response. We'll have to wait and see what happens at Citcon.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:11
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On another note, what happened to the SC reddit? It used to be a semi voice of reason- where the brown sea was mocked for their cult behavior and there were threads that would "keep devs honest." When the DFM was delayed, that group was on their back. Looking at it now, it's just a reflection of the brown sea, only much worse. It's worse because anything that goes against the cult is quickly removed- either down voted or deleted. It supports attacking Journalists and all kinds of outsiders who are offering a dissenting opinion. Even worse is that everyone who posts something not supporting Crobit's narrative is immediately outed as a Derek Smart alt. Also the post in r/games is missing?
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Oct 2, 2015 00:12
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Today has been magical, thank you CIG and all others involved for this. Tomorrow is my birthday, so if we could get some more juicy stuff happening then, that'd just be perfect. 
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Oct 2, 2015 00:13
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Sushi in Yiddish posted:I really enjoy that there are people who are just releasing solid, or at least complete space games quietly while the battle of endor sized drama explosions are going on. Angel's Fall First is fun. Though it's not complete it's 13.49 and will get 13.49 worth of enjoyment as is.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:13
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OhDearGodNo posted:On another note, what happened to the SC reddit? It used to be a semi voice of reason- where the brown sea was mocked for their cult behavior and there were threads that would "keep devs honest." Redditors happened.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:14
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pro click e: that was for the interview audio big nipples big life fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Oct 2, 2015 00:14
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This is the most absurd nonsense I've ever seen in any game community in my entire life. These are literally the people that get caught up in pyramid schemes and cults, their inability to see some basic logic with their purchases and what has been produced so far is mind boggling. I think we as a Goon community are really looking at this all wrong, we shouldn't be poking fun we should be looking to make 'fan renderings' of Star Citizen merchandise and selling it to these people, they obviously have income to piss away.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:14
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SirPhoebos posted:Well this thread moves fast. There's an old interview from Chris Roberts from a couple of years ago when he mentions expanding the Star Citizen fund raising idea and selling it to other companies. I think his lawyer buddy mentioned it too in an interview. I'll maybe see if I can find them again tomorrow.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:15
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Angel's Fall First is fun. Though it's not complete it's 13.49 and will get 13.49 worth of enjoyment as is. The devs are pretty active in playing on it also. One of them demanded i fly the battleship in which i can only assume was assisted suicide because i loving sandwiched that loving thing between another cap ship and an asteroid.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:16
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this thread is beautiful 
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Oct 2, 2015 00:17
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hey I have an LTI 325i package and a 4-digit backer number how much will morons pay me for this
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Oct 2, 2015 00:19
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OhDearGodNo posted:On another note, what happened to the SC reddit? It used to be a semi voice of reason- where the brown sea was mocked for their cult behavior and there were threads that would "keep devs honest." This is speculative but I blame the moderation team being co-opted by the "Imperial News Network" guys who are basically trying to be the wowhead or NGNG for Star Citizen.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:19
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Justin Tyme posted:this thread is beautiful If you like it so much, why don't you marry it?
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Oct 2, 2015 00:19
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Jesus God and all the saints, I go to work and come back to this. What a glorious time to be alive
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Oct 2, 2015 00:20
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OhDearGodNo posted:On another note, what happened to the SC reddit? It used to be a semi voice of reason- where the brown sea was mocked for their cult behavior and there were threads that would "keep devs honest." It got popular. Popular = reddit downvotes for anyone not going along with the status quo. Then people started demanding "censorship". The rest is history.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:20
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I actually cannot bring myself to read past the first couple sentences of Roberts' response it's just too embarrassing.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:20
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SirPhoebos posted:Well this thread moves fast. I mentioned something similar in the last thread. CIG was thinking of making the crowdfunding platform available to others, this was already mentioned once by CR himself years ago in one of his talks to other devs. The way they structured their legal entities could hint at that they were planning to do more than just ship one game most probably they idea was to turn their success model into a product. Ortwin F. was CEO at Capella Films who were quite proficient to setup revenue streams through partnerships and thus driving down productions costs. I assume that CIG has/had similar thoughts.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:21
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A Neurotic Jew posted:I actually cannot bring myself to read past the first couple sentences of Roberts' response it's just too embarrassing. I thought was just me, I tried to read it all about 6 times and have given up.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:22
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Sarsapariller posted:This is speculative but I blame the moderation team being co-opted by the "Imperial News Network" guys who are basically trying to be the wowhead or NGNG for Star Citizen. Yep, Hype News Network totally sucked up to CIG.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:23
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Beer needs to put up the stages of denial in the OP.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:23
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Well Beer certainly knows that we all expect his last magnus opus: translating the chairman's final gibberish into ork.
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I'm in for a little over $200 because I am a big idiot, can I get a refund on everything except my original <60$ pledge? Can you pick and choose your refund like that? My original pledge was June 27, 2013. Thanks for any help/advice I can get.
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