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Truecon420 posted:I'm in for a little over $200 because I am a big idiot, can I get a refund on everything except my original <60$ pledge? Can you pick and choose your refund like that? My original pledge was June 27, 2013. Thanks for any help/advice I can get. lol
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All this debate on sources and substantiated rumors and whatever don't loving matter. That Chris Roberts responded AT ALL is so beyond dumb as all gently caress that at the end of the day, Croberts responding at all colors my perception on everything that dude does. If he's so dumb that he responds at all and like he did then he has no hope of managing people when he can't manage his own idiot emotions.Truecon420 posted:I'm in for a little over $200 because I am a big idiot, can I get a refund on everything except my original <60$ pledge? Can you pick and choose your refund like that? My original pledge was June 27, 2013. Thanks for any help/advice I can get. You can do that yeah, request refunds for parts. But why wouldn't you just try to get refunded for everything? You can go ahead and come up with a reason as to why. If the game does come out you can buy it then though and since it isn't pay 2 win you've got nothing to lose. LTI is also not important at all either soooo KakerMix fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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What is the secret password to Citcon 2016 scene? ...fidelio wait, no.... fidelity.
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This is great. I spent exactly $0 on Star Citizen and I've gained a good deal of entertainment out of it. I hope everyone that spend money on a virtual space ship will learn something about this and about themselves.
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Sarsapariller posted:This is speculative but I blame the moderation team being co-opted by the "Imperial News Network" guys who are basically trying to be the wowhead or NGNG for Star Citizen. I'm reading one of the threads there and the they're postings how Crobit's post made them cry. A letter to a journalist about a video game brought multiple people to tears. Given other events today in the US, I cannot fathom how it would be THAT which brings someone to tears.
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SirPhoebos posted:Well this thread moves fast. This was covered earlier--the software was extant, but CIG has funded considerable development and improvement. Turbulent gave them reduced rates in exchange for Turbulent retaining the license to redistribute and sell those improvements to others instead of CIG maintaining exclusive rights to them.
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KakerMix posted:You can do that yeah, request refunds for parts. But why wouldn't you just try to get refunded for everything? You can go ahead and come up with a reason as to why. I want to be able to feel it crash and burn first hand. Maybe as a lesson on how not to be stupid with my money. Maybe test how terrible the alpha/beta is if it ever comes out. Basically, for no logical reason Truecon420 fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:hey I have an LTI 325i package and a 4-digit backer number how much will morons pay me for this Legit response: black market accounts don't sell at all anymore, and typically you have to let go of the email address you used to register them. If the package is a game package you can probably clear $175.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:32
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Potato Salad posted:In less than 24 hours, 1048 posts have been made in this thread. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/features/14715-CIG-Employees-Talk-Star-Citizen-and-the-State-of-the-Company https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14979-Chairmans-Response-To-The-Escapist
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AP posted:If anyone is still going to Citizen Con, please take an air horn and await your moment of glory. When would be the best moments?
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Truecon420 posted:I'm in for a little over $200 because I am a big idiot, can I get a refund on everything except my original <60$ pledge? Can you pick and choose your refund like that? My original pledge was June 27, 2013. Thanks for any help/advice I can get. I was successful in asking for a partial pledge. A friend of mine is still waiting on his partial refund, possibly because his "investment" was much bigger. And before anyone asks... the stuff left over on my account is so tied up in grey market laundering, melting, unmelting, etc. that I just decided "gently caress it, I'm in the black anyway" and decide to let what's left stay on the hype train until it crashes into Reality Valley. Now I just need to decide what to do with my profits. I was thinking about GTA V or Angels Fall First, but I could get a PS4 + all the Lego Dimensions sets instead. In comparison to Star Citizen, that game seems very reasonably priced! 
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KakerMix posted:All this debate on sources and substantiated rumors and whatever don't loving matter. That Chris Roberts responded AT ALL is so beyond dumb as all gently caress that at the end of the day, Croberts responding at all colors my perception on everything that dude does. If he's so dumb that he responds at all and like he did then he has no hope of managing people when he can't manage his own idiot emotions. I read part of the drivel he wrote and I realised CRoberts is an idiot. For all the money and time spent the project should be finished, yet here we are with Derek Smart trolling an internet spaceship project that reads like a comedy article.
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Goredema posted:I was successful in asking for a partial pledge. A friend of mine is still waiting on his partial refund, possibly because his "investment" was much bigger. What about putting it into a saving's account?
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Madcosby posted:Leader responds
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This is utterly absurd, Roberts proves himself to be such a loving tool with his response and the response from the faithful is utterly baffling. I sure hope that this wakes up more of the silent majority so that more people get refunds, I can't wait to see the stories from inside CGI when this implodes.
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Incombibulator posted:When would be the best moments? a) when something in the presentation crashes b) when Chris says "let's have some drinks!" c) "two weeks"
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sorla78 posted:What about putting it into a saving's account? Jesus, it's not enough to retire on. Plus everything I spent on Christ Roberts Presents: Christ Roberts' Space Game Featuring Christ Roberts was money out of my "buy video games and other stupid poo poo" budget category, so it would feel wrong to spend it on something sensible. Oh well, even though Star Citizen looks like it might fail, at least I still have my Kickstarter pledge for Confederate Express. I haven't seen any updates in quite a while, but I'm sure it'll be kick-rear end once it's released!
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Sarsapariller posted:Legit response: black market accounts don't sell at all anymore, and typically you have to let go of the email address you used to register them. While the new digital pixel art is up - you can sell RSI credit at 80% right now which works for locked packages. Buy an Aurora with paypal, pad it up to a tracker with CCU's (I think MR-->Mustang Alpha>LN>Hornet>Tracker) and sell for melt. LT ships are barely moving at cost. Either that or request a refund from CIG. But don't do both. I suspect if someone onsells credits, then claims a refund or does a VISA pull, credits are pulled from whoever they ended up with with a fraud case. Jethro_E7 fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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I should have cashed out a few months ago, poo poo. Could have gotten 100 bux plus from my $30 investment. Now it's a lot less but still a positive ROI for my spaceship futures. This game is a really intense economic simulation.
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Magical Zero posted:As a casual observer it seems almost unbelievable that a legit company would publish something like that on their website. The article doesn't really matter, that rant is like a textbook example of how to not respond to a hit piece/criticism/slander. Most probably a combination of CR being overworked, the refunds snowballing and Derek Smart's relentless Twitter-Lingchi, the death of a thousand cuts. That Escapist article might have made him finally snap. Seeing how no one can keep the chairman in check, he did what he felt he had to do. He was also travelling to Manchester, thus I think someone like Ortwin F wasn't around to talk the Chairman down.
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sorla78 posted:Most probably a combination of CR being overworked, the refunds snowballing and Derek Smart's relentless Twitter-Lingchi, the death of a thousand cuts. That Escapist article might have made him finally snap. Seeing how no one can keep the chairman in check, he did what he felt he had to do. He was also travelling to Manchester, thus I think someone like Ortwin F wasn't around to talk the Chairman down. Claiming that CR has been working is a bit of a stretch. All he's done for 3 years is jabber nonsense and promise an ever increasing feature list while not starting the project.
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The Messiah posted:What we are delivering now, just on the Squadron 42 side is more akin to a huge AAA game that would retail for $60 by itself. The value for money that people are getting for a $40 pledge is pretty crazy. Crazy value. Imagine the value people got for a $20K pledge! Just imagine...
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Devian666 posted:Claiming that CR has been working is a bit of a stretch. All he's done for 3 years is jabber nonsense and promise an ever increasing feature list while not starting the project. He HAS been working hard. quote:"Conservatively it’s taken me about eight hours to write. This is time I could have spent working on the game instead of dealing with a Derek Smart instigated drama." - Chris Roberts
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Jethro_E7 posted:He HAS been working hard. For six hours this morning, with a computer screen behind him blaring the escapist article generating the only light in the room, Chris Roberts stared endlessly at a white board with only the words DEREK SMART written in the center. At hour seven, Chris had his answer; next to SMART he wrote " = GAMERGATE" The next hour was spent typing
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He spent 8 hours writing a turd and there's less than an hours worth of writing content. He should have just put it aside and written up something less retarded in a day or two. He could have spent that time working on SC and it would have been the first time he'd worked on it in 3 years.
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But I, being spoor, have only my space dreams I have spread my space dreams under your space feet Space tread softly, because you space tread on my space dreams
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Lol at all the folks scrambling for their refunds now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfkNvOOiZ_8
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Haha there's a guy in this thread who's one of those "Forbes lets anyone post on their site, it doesn't mean anything!" dudes. Even the Forbes blogs go through the Forbes editorial process, and the same 2 or 3 freelancers have been writing for and getting paid by Forbes for years.
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Goredema posted:This seems like an appropriate time to contribute some new content to the thread. Linked below is audio from Michael "Viewmaster" Morlan, former employee of CIG and current employee of Descendent Studios. In this exclusive interview, he details the parties responsible for Star Citizen''s failure. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Holy poo poo. This is the most damning evidence yet.
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The abridged response:Chris Roberts, CEO posted:So why is it for you guys? Do you really want to give a platform to Derek Smart? Why aren’t you doing a piece on the state of Line of Defense? Why the rush to publish with or without our comments by noon today? What’s so urgent that you can’t take a little time to actually approach this like responsible journalists and do proper fact checking, get both sides of the story and only publish verifiable claims that have proof? What the gently caress did he think would come of this bewildered trainwreck of a response. Rather than disprove the concerns that have been brought up, he deflects every allegation with questions of "who told you this" and "show me you have proof of this," all while attempting to discredit any critics. It's not a good way to inspire confidence. Chocobo fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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"I understand the thought process that states individuals who pledged money to a potential game should know what they're getting into, but there's a level of transparency missing from the Star Citizen project. When it comes to crowdfunding, transparency is the most important thing. Otherwise, we may be looking at one of the most disastrous video game projects of all time." http://www.gamerevolution.com/manifesto/star-citizen-showcases-the-dangers-of-crowdfunding-35101 CR missed the point of "open development"
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