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Green Intern posted:Relegated to phone posting for a while. I will see if I can produce some casing when I get a chance before deadline (which happens to be at the end of my workday Deadline is in 3 days???
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Green Intern posted:Relegated to phone posting for a while. I will see if I can produce some casing when I get a chance before deadline (which happens to be at the end of my workday Deadline is in 3 days, don't sweat it efb
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Kashuno posted:I'll respond to your points because you put a lot of effort into it: I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my points, even if you didn't agree with them! I'd like to know more about your case against CC as we move into d2. It doesn't seem like there's a lot to go on yet (CC is actually under the Foo + votefinder post bar which I agree doesn't look great) but I'm curious about what rubbed you such a wrong way from his few posts that he gets an instant vote on d2. For people in general - how was that effortpost layout? I tried to keep it readable while making my points, since there's been feedback about tldr megaposts in this thread and others. Open to feedback as a new player!
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Podima posted:I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my points, even if you didn't agree with them! I'd like to know more about your case against CC as we move into d2. It doesn't seem like there's a lot to go on yet (CC is actually under the Foo + votefinder post bar which I agree doesn't look great) but I'm curious about what rubbed you such a wrong way from his few posts that he gets an instant vote on d2. I really liked the format as it made it easy to address individual points. CC's case on me was based on a false narrative, and after I disproved each of their points, they continued to leave their vote on me because "nope, scum."
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Kashuno posted:I do not want to spend d2 defending myself over and over and over again vs the same points I argued yesterday and the start of this morning. Well, yes, I imagine you wouldn't. I agree that D2 should not be All About Kashuno Day but that's not a free pass for you. Kashuno posted:I will agree that it was lovely to hammer early. He was pissing me off with his silly poo poo so I just decided I had had enough and lynched. I don't regret my decision. That's not what you said earlier. Kashuno posted:I kinda want to keep this guy around for his constantly condescending attitude A cynical person might note that when he was at -2 his attitude was amusing and almost endearing, but as soon as he was in hammer range he was insufferable and had to go. What changed, other than the number of votes on him?
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But like I said, this is not All About Kash Day.SirSamVimes posted:
D1's lurkiest poster comes running in after the thread unlocks to go fishing for vig roles.
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I doubt that the scum have two nightkills in a 13 player game, so what are we thinking? Serial killer or town role?
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Gabriel Pope posted:Well, yes, I imagine you wouldn't. I agree that D2 should not be All About Kashuno Day but that's not a free pass for you. He voted himself. He had gone from condescending to just insufferable with his "EVERYTHING I DO IS SCUMMY" post, and I was just over it. It would be a distraction for town throughout the coming days, and wasn't worth keeping him around.
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Gabriel Pope posted:But like I said, this is not All About Kash Day. good catch, I missed the "town role" at the end of the post there. Speculating on number of killers with only one day worth of data is distracting setup spec, rather than having real concrete things to work with.
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Oct 2, 2015 14:54
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Kashuno posted:He voted himself. He had gone from condescending to just insufferable with his "EVERYTHING I DO IS SCUMMY" post, and I was just over it. It would be a distraction for town throughout the coming days, and wasn't worth keeping him around. You said he was already a dead rear end in a top hat walking: Kashuno posted:Not to mention, if I were scum ending d1 early only hurts me. I put a big target on myself to get lynched today, when I could've just let herm's acerbic attitude lynch him instead. If his lynch was a foregone conclusion, he wouldn't be around to be a distraction anymore anyhow. Hammering him so early was probably not necessary to secure his lynch.
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Kashuno posted:He voted himself. He had gone from condescending to just insufferable with his "EVERYTHING I DO IS SCUMMY" post, and I was just over it. It would be a distraction for town throughout the coming days, and wasn't worth keeping him around. I disagree. You don't know how he would have turned out on D2, after surviving pressure and with the results of the flips plus actions. Your early hammer and defense of said hammer is still pretty scummy in my eyes and I would definitely vote for you today, but I am not going to start with it. What I don't understand is why Hermetic just didn't claim. Tracker isn't so dangerous that it's automatically a NK and I'm assuming there is a doctor in the game since it's pretty standard.
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Oct 2, 2015 15:11
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SirSamVimes posted:
##vote SSV
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Oct 2, 2015 15:29
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Oct 2, 2015 15:39
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Lucky you! I'll also do my best to keep up from my in-laws'. The distraction might be a blessing in disguise anyways? 
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And the award for the most useless post goes to...Nth Doctor posted:Okay D2, let's see what's what. A stunning win for Nth Doctor. He's a Cinderella story and truly an inspiration to us all! 
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Kumbamontu posted:I liked that post but you and CC would do well to summarize your points better or split them into separate posts because most people are going to see that and be like "HAHA WELP tl;dr" and ignore it Biaga Nth Doctor posted:I feel the same way about Biaga so let me lay it out: Biaga's defensiveness and "lynching me will only hurt us I'm guilty of doing it yesterday too, so I get it. Let's both post more better, K?
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" posting makes me think he's not a VT. Furthermore I feel a degree of empathy for him as a new player: I've gotten worked up at being voted on and acted weirdly before, too. All in all: Biaga seems like a townie who got tripped up by weird posting early on and then wavered between being resigned to getting lynched and suggesting that axing him would be more harm than a straight VT lynch.
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Oct 2, 2015 17:15
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Nth Doctor posted:Let's both post more better, K? I'll start. Biaga posted:I am here, sorry still reading through the 124 posts since yesterday. School eats my time on Wed/Thus. Biaga posted:I am going to re-read everything and I will decide.
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Nevermind I read this wrong. I thought you were telling yourself to post better, which was a real  moment until I realized you quoted yourself but were actually talking about Biaga. Ignore me.
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Kumbamontu posted:Nevermind I read this wrong. I thought you were telling yourself to post better, which was a real  Biaga posted:Ill take the hit, but before I go I am going to call it. Kashuno is scum. Biaga posted:So I have stopped lurking in this thread, so I apologise for not posting as much as I use to (continually I am in school so Wednesdays are busy for me) but regardless i will attempt to clarify my justification for pointing a finger at Kashuno. The key bit is here: Gabriel Pope posted:Kashuno is trying way too hard, but he seems confident in his convictions. I find Hermetic's opportunism a lot more eyebrow-raising: Gabe was suggesting Herm looks the scummier of the two between Herm and Kash. You used that to justify voting Kash. I don't think your vote is wrong taken in isolation, but your casework seems fast and loose. I don't like it. You would be more justified in saying "gut" than completely misinterpreting a post and saying it sums up your feelings.
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okay there have been enough hours of actual gameplay, all lurkers below the line are liable to be replaced or modkilled without further warning, PM me if there are issues
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Nope Biaga, SSV, Tommunist, CC all fall below the line (it's Foo + VoteFinder not just Foo)
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Fake edit: speaking of SSV Okay SSV, your turn. Nth Doctor posted:
Someone Awful! posted:
I still don't like your Biaga case. It looks a lot like you dove in because Biaga was in the lead more than anything else. SirSamVimes posted:Also I'm sorry for not posting a lot, I'm not great at engaging in D1. As has been pointed out: this is bad. This hurts the town. You have the lowest postcount of any living player in the game at the moment. The good news is: we're in D2 now! You know this because you posted this 4 minutes after the thread opened: SirSamVimes posted:
To take a serious tack: I agree with you: 2NK for scum seems really weird. I'm leaning SK rather than vig and here's why: In my notes on Deadbeat Dad and Someone Awful! I don't list anything from them as particularly scummy. In the hot minute DbD was in game he pressed for content from more lurker types and gave honest looking feedback: Giving read on Biaga, and Herm: Deadbeat Dad posted:Awkward newbie read for me, but I don't like your vote on Kash at all, don't think his reaction was really out of the ordinary. Deadbeat Dad posted:Who do you feel is scum? You have a lot of content and posts, but haven't hard committed to anybody yet. You had some good points on Hermetic and still said "you'd vote him to avoid a no-lynch" - you seem pretty stingy with your vote. He replaced Tommunist who basically lurked. Yeah, lurking is scummy but DbD seemed to recover from that pretty well. Someone Awful He wanted to keep D1 going to get lurkers to post: Someone Awful! posted:We still have a long time until deadline and I'd like to hear more from sirsamvimes and tommunist and colonel corazon so if you three could post some posts that'd be cool and good He stated voting preferences: Someone Awful! posted:I'll take a messy d1 over a low-effort/boring d1 any day. He even cast (and later withdrew) a vote on Pope. He participated to a degree. I don't recall anyone calling either of them scummy. In conclusion AND TL;DR: I think it would be exceedingly weird for a vig to target either of them over some of the more high visibility folks in the thread. I say SK.
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If it's a town vig and they don't claim it they're dumb so it's safe to assume if no one claims it it was a bad guy That was a whole lot of words that didn't really say a whole lot
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Kumbamontu posted:If it's a town vig and they don't claim it they're dumb so it's safe to assume if no one claims it it was a bad guy I've never been in a game with a vig that actually acted before. Why would they claim? One-shot power makes them VT so it's no use for them to be killed off anymore?
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Edit for my last question:Nth Doctor posted:Is it a One-shot power, so using it makes them VT so it's no use for them to be killed off anymore?
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Nth Doctor posted:I've never been in a game with a vig that actually acted before. Why would they claim? One-shot power makes them VT so it's no use for them to be killed off anymore? A vig is generally seen as alignment neutral as long as the vig acts with good faith. For example, I though Kash was suspicious during D1, so if I had a vig and used it on Kash during N1 then nobody would really use the vig to judge my alignment.
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There's no reason to engage in setup spec until we have another night of info to confirm things. Nth your big post on SSV turns into discussing other people and setup spec. What's your actual opinion on SSV?
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Kumbamontu posted:Nope Oops. I forgot it was Foo + votefinder. It doesn't help that Foo posts a bit more than some mods. Although DBD replaced Tommunist, so you're wrong there! HAH!
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Kumbamontu posted:Nope Here, I'll help. CC, I'm still curious about the answer to this: Gabriel Pope posted:Still not sure how to feel about the CC/Kash slapfight from last night. CC, can you elaborate any on this? Your case on Kash retroactively looks a lot better after Kash poo poo the bed D1 but your original case still looks pretty wobbly.
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CC's case was disproven on every point so I don't know why that still looks good to you other than you already find me scummy
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Kashuno posted:There's no reason to engage in setup spec until we have another night of info to confirm things. Nth your big post on SSV turns into discussing other people and setup spec. What's your actual opinion on SSV? I don't like SSV's tendency to hide out and not make posts. I didn't like SSV's apparent bandwagoning on votes. I think SSV is vaguely scummy and took his "OH my goodness, WHAT HAPPENED?" post with the initial "what do you think, SK or vig?" setup speculation as trying to introduce the topic while not weighing in at all on it. I gotta get home, but I'm hoping to get one more chunk of effort done tonight.
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Kashuno posted:CC's case was disproven on every point so I don't know why that still looks good to you other than you already find me scummy It doesn't look good. That's why I've been trying to get CC to defend it.
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CC threw together a slipshod case D1, then you pulled a ridiculously bad hammer vote to end D1 early, and now CC is conveniently hiding behind your bad play to look like they were always justified in pushing your case.
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Nth Doctor posted:Fake edit: speaking of SSV Not really. Biaga stated that being "out for blood" d1 was scummy. He wasn't saying that wanting to lynch him was bad, he was saying that it was a bad thing to want to lynch someone d1. quote:I still don't like your Biaga case. It looks a lot like you dove in because Biaga was in the lead more than anything else. quote:The good news is: we're in D2 now! You know this because you posted this 4 minutes after the thread opened: I agree that neither DBD nor SA seemed scummy, so it's probably a SK. It'd be weird to just casually toss out a vig when you have no reason to think it's a scummy target.
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Kumbamontu posted:If it's a town vig and they don't claim it they're dumb so it's safe to assume if no one claims it it was a bad guy Although this isn't quite true. It is possible to have a multi-use vig, and claiming it would be making yourself a NK target. I'm still leaning SK though.
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