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Adventure Pigeon
Nov 8, 2005

I am a master storyteller.

Gryphon0468 posted:

Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it?

It's not a bug. Everyone in the future has Parkinsons.

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OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

GOOCHY posted:

Pages and pages of discussion about a ToS for a game that is never going to see the light of day.

I apologize for that. The reason I brought that up is for goons to get refunds.

redwalrus
Jul 27, 2013

:stoke:

peter gabriel posted:

:eyepop:

Star Citizen Bingo!

So they did release a game!

redwalrus fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Oct 4, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

EAT THE PAIN AWAY!
In other news, CIG now has 25 reviews on Glassdoor - take a guess before clicking.
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Cloud-Imperium-Games-Reviews-E776546.htm

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Gryphon0468 posted:

Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it?

Welcome to the best thread in the 'verse


sorla78 posted:

In other news, CIG now has 25 reviews on Glassdoor - take a guess before clicking.
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Cloud-Imperium-Games-Reviews-E776546.htm

I guess posting on reddit now counts as employment at CIG

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
I've just checked and apparently the game has not only been released, but even ported to Android.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jorshasaur.shipviewer

It's got mostly positive reviews so far, too. Eat you heart out, Derek Smart

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Gryphon0468 posted:

Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it?

welcome to the SA starcitizen thread friend, you will fit right in here

also I can't fathom how it has taken them this long to get basic locomotion figured out, in UE4 as long as you have all the mocap files/data you can get that poo poo polished and 100% in a month, and that's with just one person. I dunno how Cryengine is though, maybe it's much more a pain in the rear end, but UE4's system is incredibly streamlined and can blend things on the fly. It's almost like by sticking with Cryengine they are shooting themselves in the dick constantly....

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I still can;t see the bugs in my video can anyone point them out?

Jethro_E7
Dec 11, 2014

sorla78 posted:

In other news, CIG now has 25 reviews on Glassdoor - take a guess before clicking.
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Cloud-Imperium-Games-Reviews-E776546.htm

Even the cons are pros!

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




sorla78 posted:

In other news, CIG now has 25 reviews on Glassdoor - take a guess before clicking.
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Cloud-Imperium-Games-Reviews-E776546.htm

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

peter gabriel posted:

I still can;t see the bugs in my video can anyone point them out?

Your ship kind of looks like a giant bug. Maybe that's why people are confused.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


peter gabriel posted:

I still can;t see the bugs in my video can anyone point them out?

yeah there seems to be a bug with your hangar door, for some reason it doesn't open up to a persistent dynamic universe

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Jethro_E7 posted:

Even the cons are pros!

Star Citizen is a pro con.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Ah right, thanks guys

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

EAT THE PAIN AWAY!
Games Journalism is poo poo - Next part.
http://www.gameskinny.com/x6b6l/tra...R-hxGP38.reddit

Jethro_E7
Dec 11, 2014

OhDearGodNo posted:

Pics of them?



It proves they can count. The community has done more on the cat than they have it appears.

I always liked Morlan - he was one of the few who refused to sign a doc at the end of his employment that obligated him to speak only good of the company - and he is less inhibited than WM in speaking his mind.

Grinning Goblin
Oct 11, 2004

So...is the ethics code like the konami code?

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Gryphon0468 posted:

Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it?

It's 2 years in. I mean, the hangar and that ship have been coded in since late 2013.

How can this even be defended?

The hangar module uses the native CryEngine code. It's a plug and play engine. And even then they broke it to be a buggy mess. After 2 years.

They didn't create this engine out of thin air. It was a proven, working platform. For the hangar they only changed the assets and textures.

I am still dumbfounded over the problems surrounding the FPS. Sure the employee drama gets the news but the biggest red flag is the complete inability for CIG to make a single FPS map.

We are talking about a mod to the Cryengine, things that young lads and lassies have been doing on weekends for years.

Just search "Cryengine mods" and see poo poo people do in their spare time.

And yet, a massive development house like CIG can't even get a single map out. This is with dedicated support from Crytek and now with half of Crytek now working for them.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

sorla78 posted:

Seeing that DS has leaked that CIG was checking everyone's skype logs and seemingly had forbidden staff to talk to former employees (regardless if true or not, but it certainly fits their other described behaviour) kinda shows that they might not know who is behind the leaks

Most of the sources were ex staff, I wasn't talking about current members at all. Listen I get that you think the "journalist" bit of this wasn't done well or whatever. I dunno I think it's telling that A they published it at all & B they got Chris Roberts to go on the record with "MY WIFE".

So I don't really care much beyond that, good job, maybe I just have low expectations or it could be I don't care about "ethics in X" at all.

Asking someone to comment via twitter, well it wouldn't be my first choice either, but assuming they didn't have any other contact details, it's quick easy and absolutely does not confirm anything other than you tried.

I also wouldn't be so quick to repeat rumours out of CIG about staff that have left, I heard the same rumour and didn't repeat it then. Dickwolf already said that Sandi got him to spin Alex Mayberry leaving so if everyone is being careful about getting numerous sources for one side I dunno why you'd immediately not assume the other side is spinning just as hard and might be just as untruthful.

I already feel bad that when Will Lewis left my first instinct was to assume he'd done something wrong as I didn't know there was a really good chance he was having a poo poo time at work surrounded by complete nutters.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Justin Tyme posted:

welcome to the SA starcitizen thread friend, you will fit right in here

also I can't fathom how it has taken them this long to get basic locomotion figured out, in UE4 as long as you have all the mocap files/data you can get that poo poo polished and 100% in a month, and that's with just one person. I dunno how Cryengine is though, maybe it's much more a pain in the rear end, but UE4's system is incredibly streamlined and can blend things on the fly. It's almost like by sticking with Cryengine they are shooting themselves in the dick constantly....

I don't know poo poo about games development but it almost seems like if CIG had pulled a DNF and trashed the Cryengine for UE4 they might be ahead.

It just seems like it's exponentially better in every way.

redwalrus
Jul 27, 2013

:stoke:
lol

https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649313940850126848
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649314490568192000
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649315536531140608
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649317130450505728
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649317365306404864
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649350075982852096
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649692246762131456
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649697149924433921
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/649698293526585344

George has to be lurking here, he has to be. I love you George.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Gryphon0468 posted:

Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it?

Stop posting.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
is that the duke nukem forever guy?

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

So long as you can stand escort missions, starlancer was a way better game than freelancer anyway.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

AP posted:

Most of the sources were ex staff, I wasn't talking about current members at all. Listen I get that you think the "journalist" bit of this wasn't done well or whatever. I dunno I think it's telling that A they published it at all & B they got Chris Roberts to go on the record with "MY WIFE".

So I don't really care much beyond that, good job, maybe I just have low expectations or it could be I don't care about "ethics in X" at all.

Asking someone to comment via twitter, well it wouldn't be my first choice either, but assuming they didn't have any other contact details, it's quick easy and absolutely does not confirm anything other than you tried.

I also wouldn't be so quick to repeat rumours out of CIG about staff that have left, I heard the same rumour and didn't repeat it then. Dickwolf already said that Sandi got him to spin Alex Mayberry leaving so if everyone is being careful about getting numerous sources for one side I dunno why you'd immediately not assume the other side is spinning just as hard and might be just as untruthful.

I already feel bad that when Will Lewis left my first instinct was to assume he'd done something wrong as I didn't know there was a really good chance he was having a poo poo time at work surrounded by complete nutters.

In another universe:

"I am truly saddended and troubled by the content that appeared in the article. We strive to have a positive, friendly, and respected work environment for our employees.

There have been several cases where employees may have left on bad terms, that's the nature of the business and we wish those employees the best of luck in the future.

As to the other allegations, they are unfounded."


To be honest that is all CR needed to say. Instead he went on a Derek Smart rampage, ending with GamerGate conspiracies.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
I plan to buy Star Citizen in five years once Gearbox buys the rights and makes the game

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

peter gabriel posted:

is that the duke nukem forever guy?

The one and only.

When you have the epitome of scope and feature creep criticizing your development, there's a problem.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Chris wants them labeled 'Cargo Bay'.

Edit: Now he wants them labeled 'Cargo Module'.

Edit Edit: Now he wants them labeled 'Cargo Module Alpha/Beta/Gamma etc'.

Edit Edit Edit: Now he wants labeled just '1/2/3/4/5'.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

OhDearGodNo posted:

The one and only.

When you have the epitome of scope and feature creep criticizing your development, there's a problem.

it's incredibly unfair people care about what he thinks when nobody gives john romero the time of day

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

corn in the bible posted:

I plan to buy Star Citizen in five years once Gearbox buys the rights and makes the game

The game? I'm only in it for the movie.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

OhDearGodNo posted:

The one and only.

When you have the epitome of scope and feature creep criticizing your development, there's a problem.

Now all we need is John Romero and the Holy Trinity is complete.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
To be fair, he shouldn't just be known for DNF.. Remember, Duke 3D came out and it was loving awesome.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Friendly Tumour posted:

it's incredibly unfair people care about what he thinks when nobody gives john romero the time of day

He needs to suck it down imho

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Gryphon0468 posted:

Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it?

Thanks for your :10bux:

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

EAT THE PAIN AWAY!

AP posted:

Most of the sources were ex staff, I wasn't talking about current members at all. Listen I get that you think the "journalist" bit of this wasn't done well or whatever. I dunno I think it's telling that A they published it at all & B they got Chris Roberts to go on the record with "MY WIFE".

So I don't really care much beyond that, good job, maybe I just have low expectations or it could be I don't care about "ethics in X" at all.

Asking someone to comment via twitter, well it wouldn't be my first choice either, but assuming they didn't have any other contact details, it's quick easy and absolutely does not confirm anything other than you tried.

I also wouldn't be so quick to repeat rumours out of CIG about staff that have left, I heard the same rumour and didn't repeat it then. Dickwolf already said that Sandi got him to spin Alex Mayberry leaving so if everyone is being careful about getting numerous sources for one side I dunno why you'd immediately not assume the other side is spinning just as hard and might be just as untruthful.

I already feel bad that when Will Lewis left my first instinct was to assume he'd done something wrong as I didn't know there was a really good chance he was having a poo poo time at work surrounded by complete nutters.

True, it definitly scored in getting the wife part settled, which in a way is an epic feat, seeing the means that were taken to avoid that statement - and the Chairmans reply was definitly revealing an abyss that I didn't expect. I have no reason to believe that your ethics are bad. You did a good job in keeping this board alert and supporting the refund movement. I amended that part about Elijah, it's definitly a low blow for someone that moved on and left CIG behind. Thanks for keeping it classy.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

sorla78 posted:

I amended that part

Appreciated.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Friendly Tumour posted:

it's incredibly unfair people care about what he thinks when nobody gives john romero the time of day

Diakatana is a little different. Romero just had no concept of time.

The game was still done in about 3-4 years. The problem was the promised date was something absurd like a few months.

I can't remember but at that time most of q3w was using Romero as an insult.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Gryphon0468 posted:

Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it?

how much did you invest in SC?

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NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
So you can be a cat in this game? Wouldn't they need to make two versions of each ship so cats can pilot them as well?

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