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People seem to be surprised over how crazy the SC cult is. Has everyone forgotten this? http://youtu.be/blPpnnSOiwk
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Gryphon0468 posted:Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it? What ships do you own?
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Oct 3, 2015 23:47
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sorla78 posted:Games Journalism is poo poo - Next part. OhDearGodNo posted:Has everyone forgotten this? Thanks alot rear end in a top hat!
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Oct 3, 2015 23:48
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I too want to know more about the cat stuff
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Oct 3, 2015 23:51
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If you listen right you can kind of hear words in the high pitched squeaking, but only sometimes. I'm not sure if it's imagined or not.
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Oct 3, 2015 23:52
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tooterfish posted:I like how he reinforces his point about the Escapist's bad journalism by reiterating a lie he found on reddit as a fact. You're welcome. That article is complete poo poo. I will boil it down: "I don't believe the quotes, and they look like a glassdoor review- so she should have cited the glassdoor review as the source" This is retarded. The source wasn't glassdoor.
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Oct 3, 2015 23:53
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OhDearGodNo posted:Diakatana is a little different. Romero just had no concept of time. In addition to having the financial discipline of a rock star, promising the moon and the stars, and being indescribably arrogant, yeah. Too bad the result was a piece of crap. Oh well, at least we all learned an important lesson and then promptly forgot it. While the lovely working conditions at CIG have been thoroughly attested, I'm still a bit incredulous about the claims they've managed to burn through all their money already. I mean, how do you do that really? How do you burn 80 million dollors or whatver on this, 50 million of in 10 months according to the worst claims. I can't wrap my head around it. How do you do that? Is it even possible? SWTOR was 100-200 million and iirc the most expensive MMO ever developed, but they had 5 years to rack up that bill.
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Oct 3, 2015 23:57
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OhDearGodNo posted:People seem to be surprised over how crazy the SC cult is. I hope Reddit remembers.
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Oct 3, 2015 23:58
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sorla78 posted:Sandi's racism was subject of a Glassdoor review that was reported on that in the last SC thread, together with the hairy vagina stuff. Jesus, most were saying that it is bullshit because the claims were so atrocious - now it sources from an media editor that writes it while stating to have sources that she isn't able to disclose. A media editor that reached out to a former employee of CIG via Twitter asking for some time. Uhhhhhhh
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Oct 4, 2015 00:00
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OhDearGodNo posted:Has everyone forgotten this? wait did CR actually answer their questions or did some crazy furry splice their video on top of his answers?
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Oct 4, 2015 00:01
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Zmej posted:dear god he did. They went to their offices and got an interview with him. Sources are uncertain if they were in fursuits during the interview
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Oct 4, 2015 00:03
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Friendly Tumour posted:In addition to having the financial discipline of a rock star, promising the moon and the stars, and being indescribably arrogant, yeah. Too bad the result was a piece of crap. Oh well, at least we all learned an important lesson and then promptly forgot it. Depends on how big his movie aspirations were for SQ 42 - and how much he has to compensate for.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:03
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Starfleet Dental still has the best video about Star Citizen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZHElERa0JA ...on a side note the video reminded me that the features available on Jan 2014 when they made this video are the same ones still only available lol.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:04
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Michaellaneous posted:Because practically it would be smart to not put something like metal between the source of an EMP and what you want to disable. The whole concept of an "aimed" EMP is rather silly, so you would need a material that can stop the waves to pass through. Thus the whole front would really need to be plastic or something else. As a boring aside---a directional EMP is actually perfectly simple. A parabolic metal reflector with the EMP source at the focus can achieve this--all it needs to do is reflect microwaves. I *think* claymore mines have metal backing plates for a similar reason---combined with their internal geometry, they make sure that it is deadly in mostly one direction by using the metal plate to reflect part of the explosion back towards the forward direction. You can do other somewhat unintuitive things with high explosives, like making directional breaching charges using det cord and water-filled bags---the relatively incompressible water will reflect part of the blast in the intended direction. Of course, an EMP device that happens to look just like a claymore AP mine is dumb as hell.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:10
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Slanderer posted:As a boring aside---a directional EMP is actually perfectly simple. A parabolic metal reflector with the EMP source at the focus can achieve this--all it needs to do is reflect microwaves. It gets better, if you look at the SC EMP Claymore, it's convex instead of concave like a proper claymore. So they can't even get the shape right.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:16
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OhDearGodNo posted:People seem to be surprised over how crazy the SC cult is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-AJ9d6A2Yk
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Oct 4, 2015 00:19
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Friendly Tumour posted:In addition to having the financial discipline of a rock star, promising the moon and the stars, and being indescribably arrogant, yeah. Too bad the result was a piece of crap. Oh well, at least we all learned an important lesson and then promptly forgot it. 300 employees at around 50k/yr. Leases for 3-5 studios Overhead for the employees IT equipment, including DS or OC lines AWS costs Travel TNGS, ATV, trade shows Software licenses Honestly it isn't hard to think it. Most established companies have ongoing revenue. CIG has this, however they didn't grow with it. The company right now is very large and bloated, even with 90 million. Here's how I like to explain it, compare these two situations. A: dude spends years working on his business. Revenue rises each year, and that revenue is put back into the company for growth. This is done slowly and to match the revenue streams, for example a new employee is added when the projected growth will cover not just the demand but the overhead of the new employee including benefits and training. As such, after 5 years the company is on a decent building with 300 employees. The size is dictated by the history and trends when it comes to the cash flow. Now, situation B: CIG goes from 10 people to 300 spread across multiple studios. They have no previous revenue stream. This is why they have said they sell ships for a line of credit. They have no history of a positive revenue stream and nothing to show that it will continue. They've used the lump sum to finance everything, however it is not a consistent amount to cover monthly costs. Even now, 1-2 million in revenue does not cover the costs of running CIG. this isn't even in question. What matters is how much of the "lump sum" has been spent- because unless the game goes gold and sells like GTAV, they will eventually run out of money. I figure they are running a gamble, and when the money runs out the game will be mostly ready, and you will see the company go from 300 to about 30 almost overnight. If the money runs out before that, then CIG is in a lot of trouble.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:20
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OhDearGodNo posted:People seem to be surprised over how crazy the SC cult is. I had always assumed this was an edit 
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Oct 4, 2015 00:21
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This is movie cost related, but maybe it gives an indication for Chris and Sandi's salary level 
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Oct 4, 2015 00:21
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Zmej posted:dear god I asked Sandi on Facebook if he knew he would end up interviewing furries, and she said "No" and nothing more.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:21
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OhDearGodNo posted:300 employees at around 50k/yr. And let's not forget motion capture, geek friendly actors, and if the escapist article is to be believed, private real estate and cars. poo poo is not cheap.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:26
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stop the fursecution plz
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Oct 4, 2015 00:26
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Thou shalt not suffer a furry to live.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:29
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Reddit is in full on spam post hugbox mode.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:30
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3ne6tr/lost_chris_roberts_interview_resurfaced/ Mods are sticking up for the furries.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:34
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Friendly Tumour posted:In addition to having the financial discipline of a rock star, promising the moon and the stars, and being indescribably arrogant, yeah. Too bad the result was a piece of crap. Oh well, at least we all learned an important lesson and then promptly forgot it. quote:While the lovely working conditions at CIG have been thoroughly attested, I'm still a bit incredulous about the claims they've managed to burn through all their money already. I mean, how do you do that really? How do you burn 80 million dollors or whatver on this, 50 million of in 10 months according to the worst claims. I can't wrap my head around it. How do you do that? Is it even possible? SWTOR was 100-200 million and iirc the most expensive MMO ever developed, but they had 5 years to rack up that bill.  And oh, look at that. "Sandi Roberts" was hidden in plain sight all along! Seriously though-- yeah, if true that they've spent that much thusfar, it's astounding. And you can't help but wonder, given the apparent moral and ethical bankruptcy of the Roberts family, how much got burnt on personal luxuries and indulgences and whether (gulp) there's money getting moved right from CIG coffers into private accounts. Ortwin, Chris and Sandi are the power troika. They have no real Board of Directors, no truly independent CFO (all senior management serve at the pleasure of the royal family), no outside watchdog or oversight. The Backers' funds (and hopes and dreams) are ultimately only as safe as that troika is ethical, lawful, and fiscally prudent... G0RF fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Oct 4, 2015 00:35
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G0RF posted:Romero only promised the moon and stars; Roberts is avoiding THAT mistake by offering the First Person Universe. But we got the pledge... Nice View, I wouldn't mind living there sorla78 fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Oct 4, 2015 00:37
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To cut costs, we will now create concept art using Microsoft Powerpoint.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:41
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Decided to check out the thread on a weekend, saw 20 pages of posts, and figured something new must have dropped- turns out it was Octopode taking all comers. That "Rich people live better lives" quip? Man, I'm a little disappointed- even if we disagree I didn't think you'd go into Seraph territory. The only thing that has in any way affected my opinion in the last couple days was the fired guy going to bat for CIG. The fact that there are some employees out there willing to make positive statements about the company is a sign that we're probably not getting the full story from the Escapist- I hope they interview him and post some details.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:42
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So, do I need like a paypal account to get a refund. I don't use paypal, it's as lovely as star citizen.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:44
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Ravane posted:So, do I need like a paypal account to get a refund. I don't use paypal, it's as lovely as star citizen. They'll refund through your credit card/Stripe.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:45
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OhDearGodNo posted:300 employees at around 50k/yr. What we were told in college was to estimate double an employee's salary for benefits, rent and power for the space they occupy, and an amortized price for their workspaces. So all of these should be running about 30 million a year put together.
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OhDearGodNo posted:What matters is how much of the "lump sum" has been spent- because unless the game goes gold and sells like GTAV, they will eventually run out of money. GTAV sold like 2 million on PC in the first 30 days, by the time Star Citizen comes out* they might already have 2 million citizens, they'll have to do a lot better than GTAV. *Never
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Gryphon0468 posted:Oh look at that, an unfinished Alpha has bugs, who'd have thunk it? I know right! these guys have no idea how game development works
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Oct 4, 2015 00:48
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sorla78 posted:But we got the pledge.. (Seriously wouldn't be surprised if they're doing that... But maybe not- maybe it's all just a big misunderstanding?)
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Oct 4, 2015 00:52
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OhDearGodNo posted:
Obviously it does not happen at this level very often, but this is not an uncommon occurrence in game development. Studios staff up for development and then immediately staff down after the product is released all the time. Its one of the reasons why turnover is so goddamn high in the field, and why people tend to work at so many different places early in their careers. It's extremely common in MMOs and Service-style games, where compants shift from development to support for an existing title, like in this case. That is not to say that CIG is run well, because I'm sure its run like abject garbage and this game is going to be shitcakes.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:55
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I'm not sure posting their home address is a good idea. Just saying.
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Oct 4, 2015 00:56
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They mentioned early on a goal for a new race called the K'Rathi. Have they shown any concept art for this race or is this just another thing we will never see?
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Oct 4, 2015 00:59
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Inspector Gesicht posted:They mentioned early on a goal for a new race called the K'Rathi. Have they shown any concept art for this race or is this just another thing we will never see? Probably a Larry Niven reference
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AP posted:I'm not sure posting their home address is a good idea. Just saying.
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