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so is this game supposed to be a freespace knockoff with some of EVE's ridiculous number crunching and grinding along with lovely facebook game tie-ins? Freespace 2 was pretty cool but Volition owns that. I seriously don't understand what this game is supposed to be other than space nerds jerking off about their spaceships. If it was a spaceship model sim then why the gently caress has it taken them 4 years to make some spaceship models.
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Cowman posted:so is this game supposed to be a freespace knockoff with some of EVE's ridiculous number crunching and grinding along with lovely facebook game tie-ins? Freespace 2 was pretty cool but Volition owns that. I found this on Christ Robert's laptop desktop: Star_Citizen_Design_Doc.txt: code:
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Oct 5, 2015 06:41
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How many different ship jpgs have they sold since this thing started? How many of those have advanced past jpg enough to even just look at in the space garage?
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Potato Salad posted:Are you Hendrick Tallardar? Hi How are you?
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robot roll call posted:How many different ship jpgs have they sold since this thing started? How many of those have advanced past jpg enough to even just look at in the space garage? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ship-specs all flight ready are flying jpegs now everything else are wallpapers
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robot roll call posted:How many different ship jpgs have they sold since this thing started? How many of those have advanced past jpg enough to even just look at in the space garage? I think they should just release the whole thing as a PnP RPG book, I guess a hundred million is a sort of big budget for a book but at least it would have all the features they promised and they could ship backers little spaceship figurines or star citizen themed counters or something
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Oct 5, 2015 06:50
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Citizen Con 2015, Chris Roberts strides on stage: "Greetings fellow citizens, unfortunately there is no money left and the game has been cancelled but every backer gets a free hour in the ball pit!" Crowd cheers and ululates as we see a piece of paper with UNFINISHED BALL PIT JPEG written on it.
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Oct 5, 2015 06:54
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Bootcha posted:I HAVE BEEN INFUSED WITH GREAT PURPOSE! This is great.
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Oct 5, 2015 06:58
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EminusSleepus posted:https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ship-specs Are those variants just slightly different versions of the same ships to inflate the "flight ready" numbers?
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Oct 5, 2015 07:01
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Most variants are really the same ship with different guns/shields/whatever installed. Most ships have one variant that's actually a different ship with a similar looking hull.
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nopantsjack posted:Citizen Con 2015, Chris Roberts strides on stage: I pissed in the ball pit. It was me. I admit it.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:05
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robot roll call posted:Are those variants just slightly different versions of the same ships to inflate the "flight ready" numbers? yes and no. the current flyable variants are yes..those stucked jpegs variants are unique hulls some have very distinct look but some like the red-headed-bastard-ship-that-ChewBenCa-hates-Cutlass-Variants have little to not so apparent visual looks.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:07
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Banu Merchantman was conceptualized in 2013, no sign of life in 2015. Except more jpgs.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:08
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It's absolutely insane that people keep throwing money at new ships when they have a backlog of like 20 old ones to finish. I mean, it's insane to me that people are spending that kind of money in the first place but you'd think even the biggest apologist would maybe want them to finish some of these ships they paid for a few years ago before they start selling more.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:11
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They need the money from the new ships I buy to fund the old ships I bought.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:15
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Cowman posted:so is this game supposed to be a freespace knockoff with some of EVE's ridiculous number crunching and grinding along with lovely facebook game tie-ins? Freespace 2 was pretty cool but Volition owns that. This post is beautiful because while it is presumably unintentional, it is prefectly designed to troll Ben Lesnick. Back in the day Lesnick decided that the Freespace games were the boogyman that killed the Wing Commander series. He built it up so much in his head that he would get really angry about how terrible he thought the Freespace games were (this is the same man who declared Wing Commander Arena a great game, in case anyone was still unsure about his partiality). IIRC he even banned people for speaking positively about Freespace back when he ruled the WC News forums with an iron fist.
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Potato Salad posted:... Superficially, this all seems incredibly elementary, but I can see how you can coast through life and not pick up social maturity.... Ignoring the many people that have given money to the project for a moment. Does wishing for something that would inevitably lead to, among other things, 200+ people losing their jobs and to crowdfunding for independent game devs to dry up overnight, exhibit "social maturity"? It seems to me, at least intuitively that this is not the case. Perhaps you can enlighten me since this is all "incredibly elementary" to you. I don't agree with some of the things CIG does, but I certainly don't hope they will fail. The pain from the fallout wouldn't just be limited to people with a fondness for collecting flying jpegs.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:18
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Jethro_E7 posted:So when refunds happen, does the counter tick... backwards? Guess.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:23
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This is extremely my jam. Please post all good, exasperated rants in this thread.
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I haven't looked at Star Citizen stuff closely since the kickstarter but I'm assuming the fans still buying jpegs are expecting to have a full game at some time. What's the consensus on when that will be in their eyes - 2017? 2018? Later? Much later?
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madcow posted:
Maybe when this whole thing explodes and everyone finally realizes that no, Star Citizen is not real some of them will have a shock to their system to maybe bring in some reflection on themselves and better their lives because of it. Just maybe they will grow a little bit and continue life a little bit wiser. Also it's going to be real hilarious seeing how die-hards that never had a hope rationalize the injustice in the world when reality washes over them.
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KakerMix posted:Maybe when this whole thing explodes and everyone finally realizes that no, Star Citizen is not real some of them will have a shock to their system to maybe bring in some reflection on themselves and better their lives because of it. Just maybe they will grow a little bit and continue life a little bit wiser. Also it's going to be real hilarious seeing how die-hards that never had a hope rationalize the injustice in the world when reality washes over them. Can't wait to see the faces of those who're >1K dollars in when CIG announces bankruptcy / closure.
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madcow posted:Ignoring the many people that have given money to the project for a moment. Does wishing for something that would inevitably lead to, among other things, 200+ people losing their jobs and to crowdfunding for independent game devs to dry up overnight, exhibit "social maturity"? You could probably make the argument that the spectacular failure of Star Citizen would be a net positive for people who want easy access to more good games, or even that the ongoing waterfall of backer money represents not only poor money management on the part of Star Citizens but also a precedent that will have negative effects on crowdfunding for years and years, specifically the idea that promising new features is more profitable than actually producing features. And the idea that we have some responsibility to support CIG to protect independent game devs is too laughable to even really address. So when I put it that way, yeah, gently caress 'em, I hope this project fails and I hope that the people worth anything find new jobs without too much interruption
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Anyone who could be deeply wounded by the failure of SC has led an extremely privileged life.
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madcow posted:Ignoring the many people that have given money to the project for a moment. Does wishing for something that would inevitably lead to, among other things, 200+ people losing their jobs and to crowdfunding for independent game devs to dry up overnight, exhibit "social maturity"? just like Crytek, those good developers in CIG will be poached in due time so don't fret.
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Jethro_E7 posted:So when refunds happen, does the counter tick... backwards? the sad thing to consider is that refunds are a drop in the bucket so far Where outside of this thread are people getting the knowledge that refunds are even possible, plus pessimism about the game? Who besides us is really paying attention to derek smart's antics? The escapist is the first real outlet to publish anything negative about star citizen, everything else has been really wishy-washy about the general lack of progress. Lots of people don't pay super-close attention.
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no_recall posted:Can't wait to see the faces of those who're >1K dollars in when CIG announces bankruptcy / closure. if you want a preview, just look up images from the 2008 financial collapse, and then pretend they have more chins and less hair
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Klyith posted:the sad thing to consider is that refunds are a drop in the bucket so far This. Dance puppets dance. Derek Smart is your God now.
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shadow puppet of a posted:This is extremely my jam. Please post all good, exasperated rants in this thread. How about this: "You are getting hosed in the rear end and are asking for seconds - and they didn't even have the common courtesy to lube up first."
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The thing is, the best outcome for the most people probably actually would be for star citizen to come out and be the ultimate god game so many cultists are furiously telling themselves it's going to be. It would be a lot better than the alternative. But that's not going to happen. And what is going to happen instead is going to be hilarious. It's just a wonderful situation all around. If this train somehow keeps on chugging straight ahead even though the train tracks completely stop a mile out of the station because we need another $90 million to make a picture of more train tracks that would be amazing. But the alternative is a trainwreck so hilariously and unnecessarily dramatic that it will be impossible not to point and chuckle at it. And realistically, at this point there's no way we're not getting the trainwreck.
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Trapezium Dave posted:I haven't looked at Star Citizen stuff closely since the kickstarter but I'm assuming the fans still buying jpegs are expecting to have a full game at some time. What's the consensus on when that will be in their eyes - 2017? 2018? Later? Much later? Two weeks.
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Klyith posted:the sad thing to consider is that refunds are a drop in the bucket so far It could create quite an interest if the counter showed a deficit for the first time. The effect of DS on the greymarket is being discussed for the first time.
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Prop Wash posted:You could probably make the argument that the spectacular failure of Star Citizen would be a net positive for people who want easy access to more good games.. I would be interested to see how that would argument would work because the way I see it, it would be a net negative since it would just lead to more formulaic, generic CoD and WoW-lite crap. More 'safe money' game design and less risk and innovation. Also this idea that Star Citizen is somehow sucking up all the money that would otherwise go to other "good" games is just "too laughable to even really address". quote:...specifically the idea that promising new features is more profitable than actually producing features. Promising new features doesn't get you more profit if you end up spending that money on trying to develop said features. The only way it would be more profitable is if you just ran off with all the money right after the funding ending or just delivered the final product without them, which would be patently obvious to all those involved.
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Any chance Chris Roberts ends up in jail for fraud and embezzlement?
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Smoothrich posted:Any chance Chris Roberts ends up in jail for fraud and embezzlement? with the cult fans they have now? he might be absolved instantly whatever the heck he does, he is god to them
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