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The main thing Supergirl has going for it is that like Flash they nailed it by casting a really likable lead. But unfortunately like Flash and Arrow they have writers that really struggle to write natural sounding dialogue. And unlike those two shows they don't really have anything they can shift attention to in order to hide those deficits. As bad as the stuff in Flash and Arrow is at times the stuff in the Supergirl pilot is on another level of bad. Where they stumble over references to her cousin without saying his name just to see how clumsily they can fit references in. And how they spend a majority of the pilot hitting you over the head with the "Girls can do cool stuff too!" hammer in a way that's almost completely counterproductive. It's only a pilot so some pilot-itis is expected. That being said even though it's not good it's nowhere near as bad as the trailer makes it out to be.
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Does the pilot suggest that Superman is specifically Man of Steel Superman, or is it just some generic Superman?
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Sir Kodiak posted:Does the pilot suggest that Superman is specifically Man of Steel Superman, or is it just some generic Superman? He is specifically not Man of Steel Superman. He's been Superman in public for something like 12 years in this universe and is still active. Which is going to make it really weird when he never shows up to help out his cousin seeing as how he's Superman and all. He's referenced like 20 times in the pilot but only once by name in the first couple minutes. The rest of the time he's called everything from "my cousin" to "the superlative man" and it gets old really fast. X-O fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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X-O posted:He is specifically not Man of Steel Superman. He's been Superman in public for something like 12 years in this universe. Boring, but thanks.
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ABC Family is getting the millstone off it's neck.quote:ABC Family is undergoing a name change and rebranding. Starting in January 2016, the channel will be called Freeform. I'm not calling them becomers.
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zoux posted:ABC Family is getting the millstone off it's neck. As a 32 year old, "becomers" is a god awful name I'll fight against. Millennials is fine.
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Oct 6, 2015 21:52
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thrawn527 posted:As a 32 year old, "becomers" is a god awful name I'll fight against. Manchild seems like a more accurate classification
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Oct 6, 2015 21:57
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Freeform? Becomers? Fire the people that came up with those.
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X-O posted:Freeform? Becomers? Fire the people that came up with those. I'm sorry but those are the only words that evoke the spirit and adventure of our audience. Blame the English language.
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Oct 6, 2015 22:00
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zoux posted:ABC Family is getting the millstone off it's neck. First time since the 1908s that it won't have family in the name? Man Pat Robertson might be right about man riding dinosaurs if he had tv in 1908.
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Oct 6, 2015 22:02
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Much like SyFy, you'll forget Freeform is a terrible name soon, mostly because you don't watch anything on that channel anyway.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Much like SyFy, you'll forget Freeform is a terrible name soon, mostly because you don't watch anything on that channel anyway. We'll never forget what a bad name FXX is though
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thrawn527 posted:Millennials is fine. Milennial is just as lovely and manufactured, it just came first. And considering that I've seen it applied to everything from people in their late thirties to toddlers it's utterly useless as anything other than a perjorative.
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Sleeveless posted:Milennial is just as lovely and manufactured, it just came first. And considering that I've seen it applied to everything from people in their late thirties to toddlers it's utterly useless as anything other than a perjorative. Fortunately that's all it's needed for.
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Sleeveless posted:Milennial is just as lovely and manufactured, it just came first. And considering that I've seen it applied to everything from people in their late thirties to toddlers it's utterly useless as anything other than a perjorative. Any term is manufactured, and every naming of a generation anywhere near its life is just an attempt by someone to decide that those birthdates are somehow important or unique.
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Bruceski posted:Minority Report episode 1: "We're being a little fascist but it's to stop a terror attack" The only interesting part of the show is the sister precog being able to see them being sent back to work in secret and maybe the lady cop is involved, but across 3 episodes they've spent maybe less than 10 minutes on it. The show doesn't seem like it wants to go anywhere. I watched the third episode just recently and it felt all over the place. It just ran with the fact that you mash two things that predict crime together and come out with ... something confusing. At least with something like POI that also does the predictive crime angle, there's still an element of mystery to it (it's gonna happen, but the one clue you get you can't be sure if they do the crime or suffer the crime), and they just fully admit the prediction is 100% correct but it's up to the cast (and by extension the viewer) to discover the human element of it. I think The Player might also fall into that trap a bit as MR might, but at least the main character questions the point/use of predictive crime systems and it seems to be edging further into crazy plot conspiracy territory instead, but who knows what that will produce. X-O posted:The main thing Supergirl has going for it is that like Flash they nailed it by casting a really likable lead. But unfortunately like Flash and Arrow they have writers that really struggle to write natural sounding dialogue. And unlike those two shows they don't really have anything they can shift attention to in order to hide those deficits. As bad as the stuff in Flash and Arrow is at times the stuff in the Supergirl pilot is on another level of bad. Where they stumble over references to her cousin without saying his name just to see how clumsily they can fit references in. And how they spend a majority of the pilot hitting you over the head with the "Girls can do cool stuff too!" hammer in a way that's almost completely counterproductive. It's only a pilot so some pilot-itis is expected. That being said even though it's not good it's nowhere near as bad as the trailer makes it out to be.
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Sleeveless posted:Milennial is just as lovely and manufactured, it just came first. And considering that I've seen it applied to everything from people in their late thirties to toddlers it's utterly useless as anything other than a perjorative. "Those who came of age around the time of the new millennium" isn't all that arbitrary or manufactured, and at least has some meaning, as opposed to "becomers".
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What the hell kind of devil contract does the 700 Club have to run in perpetuity the way it has? Does it ever EXPIRE? Every other channel gets to air shows in syndication or re-runs, at least drat infomercials. The 700 Club is terrible.
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ABC Freeform just makes me think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IOPQ3SQ15w
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Goddamn I wish that TV by the Numbers, as the major clearinghouse for ratings information, didn't have the worst layout and web design in the history of mankind.
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Oct 6, 2015 22:26
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zoux posted:It also dropped another tenth in the demo to .7.  I'm surprised it hasn't been cancelled yet.
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Oct 6, 2015 22:29
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Perfect. It seems like they're doing mostly right by this new revival, it's really weird considering how hard they bungled that last movie and how little people cared about it, it wasn't even that long ago.
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zoux posted:Goddamn I wish that TV by the Numbers, as the major clearinghouse for ratings information, didn't have the worst layout and web design in the history of mankind. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/
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thrawn527 posted:"Those who came of age around the time of the new millennium" isn't all that arbitrary or manufactured, and at least has some meaning, as opposed to "becomers". Fair enough, but then gen-x, baby boomers, the silent generation, the greatest generation. And where do you draw the boundaries? Should they be of reasonable age to remember the turn of the millennium? Do they need to be born before? After? Somewhere you're arbitrarily drawing a line. *Baby boomers are a little less arbitrarily defined in dates, since the term is referencing a social phenomenon when birth rates changed--the two ideas are pretty centrally linked; these are the people born as a direct result of this social phenomenon that itself resulted in an abnormal birthrate.
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X-O posted:The main thing Supergirl has going for it is that like Flash they nailed it by casting a really likable lead. But unfortunately like Flash and Arrow they have writers that really struggle to write natural sounding dialogue. And unlike those two shows they don't really have anything they can shift attention to in order to hide those deficits. As bad as the stuff in Flash and Arrow is at times the stuff in the Supergirl pilot is on another level of bad. Where they stumble over references to her cousin without saying his name just to see how clumsily they can fit references in. And how they spend a majority of the pilot hitting you over the head with the "Girls can do cool stuff too!" hammer in a way that's almost completely counterproductive. It's only a pilot so some pilot-itis is expected. That being said even though it's not good it's nowhere near as bad as the trailer makes it out to be. Callista Flockheart's "Girl? What's wrong with 'girl'? You're the real sexist here" was insanely terrible. Follow that up with evil guy reporting back to base with "Another one of them survived, and its a female*spits in disgust" and you really have to wonder how invested they are in the dialogue. Plus, no one at the top levels seems to really know what their plan is. First it was ironclad that Supergirl was completely separate from the CW stuff, then network execs starting being vague, and after The Flash's insane ratings suddenly the idea of a crossover isn't getting completely dismissed as CBS execs talk about how it could be possible but only in network "this doesn't mean anything" jargon.
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CBS only picked it up because CW passed on Supergirl cause they weren't so sure if putting their eggs in the comic book basket would work out. But then it did so that's the problem. Should've just tried the same trick with Supergirl after a season of The Flash first to be sure.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Much like SyFy, you'll forget Freeform is a terrible name soon, mostly because you don't watch anything on that channel anyway. The man has a point. Although it makes their original proposed name of "ZYX" seem less terrible by comparison. I wonder how they managed to get out of having to keep "Family" in the name. less laughter posted:We'll never forget what a bad name FXX is though FXX is not only a bad name, but was also a bad idea in general. I'm still trying to figure out why they decided to launch a channel that they had (and still have) barely any content for. See also: The Esquire Channel, which is only good for Ninja Warrior reruns.
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Rename it to The Simpsons Channel and show nothing but Simpsons episodes. It's almost like FXX now, but better.
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raditts posted:See also: The Esquire Channel, which is only good for Ninja Warrior reruns. Esquire was G4. Had to do something with it.
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X-O posted:The rest of the time he's called everything from "my cousin" to "the superlative man" and it gets old really fast. Just caught this edit. Is the speaker at least making a jerk-off motion when they refer to him as "the superlative man"?
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Sir Kodiak posted:Just caught this edit. Pretty sure it was Cat Grant, and like everything out of her mouth the entire episode it was terrible and possibly meant to be terrible, so I don't know. The dialogue was so bad at times I was actually wondering if it was supposed to be bad or not especially with her character.
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Becomers is stupid because its meaningless and sounds retarded hth
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zoux posted:It's so bad, y'all, in the second episode a zombie shows up on a dog sled and a zombie dog gets loose and DJ Qualls has to fight it. I cannot believe how much DJ Qualls is in the show. Dude don't listen to anyone's opinion here we're all terrible.
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Shageletic posted:Dude don't listen to anyone's opinion here we're all terrible. I mean we're all horrible yeah but only the Ryan Murphy apologists are truly the worst.
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IRQ posted:I mean we're all horrible yeah but only the Ryan Murphy apologists are truly the worst. Ryan Murphy only has victims...he doesn't have apologists.
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Can someone effort post a Homeland thread? I can only post from my phone until I move at the end of the month. It's kinda hosed up that 24 had huge threads but now there's nothing for the new season of Homeland. I can't be the only one here that still likes the show.
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pentyne posted:Callista Flockheart's "Girl? What's wrong with 'girl'? You're the real sexist here" was insanely terrible. Follow that up with evil guy reporting back to base with "Another one of them survived, and its a female*spits in disgust" and you really have to wonder how invested they are in the dialogue. No one knows what WB corporate wants with Supergirl so they might have played hardball with them
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