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zakharov posted:Jason Whitlock is extremely mad online. Save his rear end from what though
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 00:58 |
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Was the decision to suck George Bush’s dick made when Bill Simmons was there, or after? - ESPN employee / roastmaster general
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 01:11 |
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MourningView posted:He is really hung up on Coates just in general too. When you are deluded into thinking that you're a leading voice on racial issues and the actual leading voice has a completely opposing view and is also 8000 times smarter than you, it probably hurts.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 01:14 |
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Also Coates refused to work with him even though Whitlock offered triple the salary
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 01:35 |
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chunkles posted:Save his rear end from what though The enmity of one Stephen A. Smith. It's dangerous!
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 01:37 |
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ChickenMedium posted:The enmity of one Stephen A. Smith. It's dangerous! Roving gangs of vigilante sports personalities taking vengeance on the athletes and writers who have wronged them
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 01:39 |
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chunkles posted:Roving gangs of vigilante sports personalities taking vengeance on the athletes and writers who have wronged them guess who posted:Deadspin operates as a hipster gang. Bullied media into silence. But remember, hipster gangs are good because they quote Coates. Hipster gangs!
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 01:47 |
I thought the narrative was black grant land failed because Jason Whitlock was a bad manager who couldn't get talent. Why's there 10,000 word article about how actually it's because ESPN is racist by the same guy.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 01:48 |
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I think it's a bit of both. The only reason anyone's knows what's going on is Howard writes about it once a quarter. ESPN has shown nothing that indicates support for the project since canning Whitlock
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 01:53 |
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Ungratek posted:Also Coates refused to work with him even though Whitlock offered triple the salary
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 02:02 |
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Not to jump back into the Simmons discussion but I did just listen to the Wesley Morris Episode of the Simmons podcast. And yeah it was weird how Bill was practically eulogizing its demise as we speak, but he did bring up something that someone on here also pointed out, which is that ESPN never really directed readers to Grantland. Which may seem like a minor offense but the ESPN.com frontpage gets huge traffic. You'd think they'd want to prominently link to a Zach Lowe piece once in a while.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 02:02 |
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Blast Fantasto posted:Was the decision to suck George Bush’s dick made when Bill Simmons was there, or after? - ESPN employee / roastmaster general It didn't come out that long after he left and he used to constantly bring up how impressed he was by that dumb pitch, I would almost guarantee that was a Simmons idea
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 02:31 |
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Blast Fantasto posted:Was the decision to suck George Bush’s dick made when Bill Simmons was there, or after? - ESPN employee / roastmaster general Wait, Simmons is a Bush supporter? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying here?
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 02:45 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Wait, Simmons is a Bush supporter? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying here? Grantland did a dumb fluff piece on the time Bush threw the first pitch of the '01 World Series and Deadspin tried to make it a thing.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 02:46 |
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I think Simmons mentioned that he didn't have much to do with 30 for 30 the last couple years as well. I doubt he really cared about that, and I am not sure why Deadspin thinks 30 for 30 would do a 24 minute piece accusing Bush of war crimes.Keven. Just. Keven posted:I thought the narrative was black grant land failed because Jason Whitlock was a bad manager who couldn't get talent. Why's there 10,000 word article about how actually it's because ESPN is racist by the same guy. They are racist so they put a guy woefully unqualified in charge who did things people woefully unqualified do. I do like the outcome that the main problem is putting talent in the editorial chair though.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 02:49 |
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This is great. I have no idea what this even means, and I don't think he does either
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 03:56 |
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angrygodofjebus posted:This is great. I have no idea what this even means, and I don't think he does either Thread title
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 03:57 |
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angrygodofjebus posted:This is great. I have no idea what this even means, and I don't think he does either
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 04:02 |
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#whitegangs
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 04:03 |
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R.D. Mangles posted:#whitegangs
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 04:09 |
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Lockback posted:Thread title Sure
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 04:17 |
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R.D. Mangles posted:#whitegangs Is he talking about 4H or....?
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 04:37 |
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Lockback posted:Is he talking about 4H or....? Yea 4H, water polo teams, future businessmen of america, those fuckers
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 04:42 |
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Or the worst kind of all, College Republicans
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 05:18 |
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Whitlock is insane.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 05:25 |
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It's really pathetic how much a petulant man-child he is.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 05:37 |
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Bob Ojeda posted:I like Deadspin a lot but I think their attitude is that they don't have to come up with any kind of positive alternative, or even display any kind of consistency between what they say and what they do. Their position seems to be that their only role is criticism, and anything outside of that is irrelevant. They realize manufactured outrage is big business and they have the marketplace dialed in. Also, I'm Whitlock's number 1 fan here but someone he knows and respects (in a hypothetical world where that person exists) needs to call him up and get him away from the keyboard. Of course, I'll also be refreshing twitter every 19 seconds until the Decision 2.0 drops. I'll go half on the presidential platter if necessary. PS When you look at Greg Howard's War and Peace novels on Whitlock vs any other thing he writes, I do believe someone else came two steps short of writing the entire things and putting Greg's name on them. His other stuff seems like it is written by an angry child plus he can't go 93 words without saying fuckboy in any other piece. I would believe his Whitlock stalker pieces are ghostwritten.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 12:16 |
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Jason Whitlock is the loving best. I like to imagine that someone texts Coates with 'he's namedropping you in every tweet again.' and he just sighs and puts his best Jim Caldwell face on That may only be because I am currently imagining EVERYONE with a Jim Caldwell face, but still, how fun it must be to be the latest obsession of Jason Whitlock
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 13:07 |
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Howard's stuff on their soccer sub-site is usually really good but that's about it. Tom Ley used to be alright but goes way off the deep end most of the time now. Burke seems to be more of a reporter than a columnist for the most part, I'm fine with him. The boxing columns by Hamilton Nolan and Iron Mike Gallego are very good. Billy Haisley is 100% awful.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 13:44 |
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I enjoy most of the writers on Deadspin. I don't expect them to provide panaceas for the numerous plagues that infect sports media. I'm content with having a website full of decent to good writers that call out ESPN for all their BS. I think the Whitlock stuff growing into a larger critique of ESPN and the politics of apolitics was pretty good, and in many ways built upon previous work done by Klosterman and Pierce on grantland.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 14:18 |
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I like the notion that Greg Howard is somehow incapable of using a different tone/level of seriousness depending on the subject matter he's writing about and so it must be a ghost written
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 15:29 |
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I love The Wire but Whitlock having a twitter avatar of a Wire character and a bio that lists David Simon as one of his influences is such pseudo-intellectual bullshit that comes off as a desperate attempt to appear cultured.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 15:38 |
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MourningView posted:I like the notion that Greg Howard is somehow incapable of using a different tone/level of seriousness depending on the subject matter he's writing about and so it must be a ghost written Yeah, he's written plenty of goofy and joking poo poo on deadspin but also put out some really good articles surrounding Ferguson, Black Lives Matter issues, etc.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 15:55 |
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The main appeal of sports is that it's something we can argue about that doesn't really matter at the end of the day. For all their faults, I'm glad that ESPN indulges us that premise, even if it's not really true.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 16:59 |
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Lockback posted:I think Simmons mentioned that he didn't have much to do with 30 for 30 the last couple years as well. I doubt he really cared about that, and I am not sure why Deadspin thinks 30 for 30 would do a 24 minute piece accusing Bush of war crimes. There's a big gap in between "run something about how George Bush is a war criminal" and "run something that's about how George Bush is actually good and responded well to 9/11," which notably contains "don't make a documentary about George Bush."
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 17:50 |
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Ribsauce posted:PS When you look at Greg Howard's War and Peace novels on Whitlock vs any other thing he writes, I do believe someone else came two steps short of writing the entire things and putting Greg's name on them. His other stuff seems like it is written by an angry child plus he can't go 93 words without saying fuckboy in any other piece. I would believe his Whitlock stalker pieces are ghostwritten. Oh, word?
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 17:53 |
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So It Goes posted:I love The Wire but Whitlock having a twitter avatar of a Wire character and a bio that lists David Simon as one of his influences is such pseudo-intellectual bullshit that comes off as a desperate attempt to appear cultured. I think it's great that he's latched onto the number one thing that white people use to pretend they understand black people. Nothing could be more appropriate.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 21:53 |
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Jason Whitlock @WhitlockJason Should have details on The Explanation 2.0 in the next 24-48 hours. Do Not Miss. I love Big Sexy, but I have a feeling we can listen to him end his career in real time tomorrow or Friday.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 23:24 |
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Are journalists in other fields the huge man babies that these weirdo bitches are? Good God it's just a constant stream of whining.
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Parlett316 posted:Are journalists in other fields the huge man babies that these weirdo bitches are? Good God it's just a constant stream of whining. music journalists are awful
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