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Jose posted:how big is hells kitchen for it to have its own superhero and poo poo? Well, pretty much every super human but the X-Men live in New York City already, so size isn't really relevant. Single buildings can have anywhere from 1 to the entire Avengers officially reping them.
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It speaks to the density of New York City's population. Hell's Kitchen may only be a 25-30 block radius but its probably like 50,000 residents. It can handle multiple gangs and ethnic groups so it can handle half dozen moderately powered heroes. And its not like the neighborhood has closed borders or anything. I don't anyone would notice if DD occasionally wandered into Midtown or Chelsea or took a trip uptown. Plus, Hell's Kitchen is kind of vaguely a fictional setting at this stage. The diverse, low income neighborhood these comics were founded in has been gentrified and renamed "Clinton." The whole Kingpin story seems like it kind of speaks to that and puts the story at like a decade or two ago when the change was happening but DD's "Hell's Kitchen" is arguably closer to "Gotham" than the actual city neighborhood.
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Oct 11, 2015 19:03
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They handwaved it as hell's kitchen being blown the gently caress up and rebuilt after yhe avengers movie
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Oct 11, 2015 19:22
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Oh, I'm not criticizing. Hell's Kitchen is a way better setting than Clinton and their handwavey reason doesn't even seem necessary to me. The overwhelming majority of viewers don't know anything about Hell's Kitchen or Clinton so its just a classic low income setting for the Defenders' grounded/populist heroes. Its a comic book, not a documentary. I'm just saying since the very nature of DD's Hell's Kitchen is kind of fictional by default than the neighborhood can be bigger or denser or whatever it wants to be for the story's purposes (within reason).
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Oct 11, 2015 19:35
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I still hear the neighborhood called Hell's Kitchen. Don't think I've ever heard someone actually refer to it as Clinton, I think it's more of a real estate term or maybe I don't hang out with fancy enough people. It might not exist anymore but I always got a chuckle out of the Chelsea-Clinton AIDS clinic.
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Oct 11, 2015 20:00
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its hells kitchen being part of manhattan rather than part of new york that is an issue of scale if that makes sense
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Oct 11, 2015 20:02
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Hells Kitchen chat: I really liked that they tied the movies to the tv series in that detail. The Avengers are smashing stuff all the time while guys like Kingpin are following in the wake of the do-gooders and founding their empires by capitalizing on it. It gives me hope that with all the Hydra agents in Shield being exposed and jailed/killed with regular Shield agents who are also being killed, somewhere out there both organizations are trying to rebuild their numbers and some amnesiac wearing a skull mask and white cape is offering to train troops for either.
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Oct 11, 2015 20:15
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 For what it's worth.
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Oct 11, 2015 21:26
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Barry Convex posted:
Oh bluh. I hope this isn't true but what else is there to think? Hey Marvel call me I bet I could run this show for you.
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Oct 11, 2015 21:28
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Look at who did the tweets. Therefore iron fist should be great
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Oct 11, 2015 21:33
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Isn't Iron Fist after Luke Cage? So that's probably at least another year or two away.(or three, they can just make second seasons of JJ and LC, no?) I don't know why people are panicking.
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Oct 11, 2015 21:39
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Deakul posted:Isn't Iron Fist after Luke Cage? So that's probably at least another year or two away.(or three, they can just make second seasons of JJ and LC, no?) Exactly. There should be plenty to go on between new dd, jj, and (if it's good) lc that pushing iron fist back to make sure it's ready shouldn't be seen as a bad thing.
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Oct 11, 2015 21:43
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bunnyofdoom posted:Look at who did the tweets. Therefore iron fist should be great I'm new to all this, is Faraci known for running his mouth?
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Oct 11, 2015 22:23
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HIJK posted:I'm new to all this, is Faraci known for running his mouth? He talked mad poo poo about Daredevil before it aired, and was wrong on pretty much every account. Dude has a real issue with Marvel for some reason. Or maybe it's just their TV stuff? Other than that he's known for talking out of his rear end about stuff in the entertainment industry that I've never seen anyone else confirm, so his word means basically poo poo.
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Oct 11, 2015 22:40
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I will gladly be the showrunner for Iron Fist, Marvel. Hire me! It'll just be Fraction's run adapted, but that's what you should be doing anyway!
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Serf posted:He talked mad poo poo about Daredevil before it aired, and was wrong on pretty much every account. Dude has a real issue with Marvel for some reason. Or maybe it's just their TV stuff? Other than that he's known for talking out of his rear end about stuff in the entertainment industry that I've never seen anyone else confirm, so his word means basically poo poo. 
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achillesforever6 posted:Maybe he's a poster on CD? I'd say he's SMG but he didn't quote Zizek
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Oct 11, 2015 23:01
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Daredevil season 2 is going to turn out to actually be Iron Fist season 1. K'un-Lun has IMF level disguises.
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Oct 11, 2015 23:04
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Codependent Poster posted:I will gladly be the showrunner for Iron Fist, Marvel. Hire me! Are you Yuen Wo Ping? Because if not, step off.
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Oct 11, 2015 23:10
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Sorry, I should have linked to/quoted the new Bleeding Cool rumor Faraci was responding to. For context: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/10/11/nycc-15-the-marvel-filmtv-wars-get-more-complex-inhumans-iron-fist-and-staffers/ Rich Johnston, Bleeding Cool posted:One rather reliable source connected to Marvel told me that the Inhumans movie was only announced at CEO Isaac Perlmutter‘s insistence, if movie boss Kevin Feige was allowed to announce Feige’s own pet projects, Captain Marvel and Black Panther. And that is behind the now autonomous Feige’s decision to drop it. Serf posted:He talked mad poo poo about Daredevil before it aired, and was wrong on pretty much every account. Dude has a real issue with Marvel for some reason. Or maybe it's just their TV stuff? Other than that he's known for talking out of his rear end about stuff in the entertainment industry that I've never seen anyone else confirm, so his word means basically poo poo. Faraci is one of the more credible fanboy quasi-news bloggers out there, IMO. His track record isn't perfect (I still wonder who he was hearing "very bad buzz about Daredevil" from), but I'd trust him over Johnston any day. That said, while Johnston's sources clearly have an axe to grind against Feige, they also seem to be closer to Marvel Television than Faraci's or McWeeny's sources, so who knows. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Oct 11, 2015 23:45
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Everything that Rich Johnston posts should be immediately regarded as false until there is overwhelming evidence that it's not. Especially with anything not directly related to publishing comic books.
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Oct 11, 2015 23:48
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That would be seriously disappointing if they nuked Iron Fist over something as stupid as "procedural notes." Iron Fist sounds primed for a traditional Hero's Journey, all they really have to do is make a wuxia version of A New Hope. Fingers crossed. That note-making committee sounds like way more trouble than it's worth.
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Oct 11, 2015 23:52
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We should probably just ignore anything by Rich Johnston or Devin Faraci, they've dug their own graves and filled them full of horseshit rumors.
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Oct 12, 2015 00:45
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That description of the first episode sounds interesting and exciting. I was cautiously optimistic about Melissa Rosenberg as the showrunner; looks like my optimistic side is winning out.
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Serf posted:He talked mad poo poo about Daredevil before it aired, and was wrong on pretty much every account. Dude has a real issue with Marvel for some reason. Or maybe it's just their TV stuff? Other than that he's known for talking out of his rear end about stuff in the entertainment industry that I've never seen anyone else confirm, so his word means basically poo poo. Devin might just have a beef with TV stuff (I haven't seen this first-hand, and can't attest to it), because from his reporting on Badass Digest/birthmoviesdeath, he's been very on top of and involved with MCU news, mostly in a positive manner. I don't always agree with Faraci taste-wise, but my experience is that he usually *is* a reliable source. I remember him talking about developments in Age of Ultron soon after Winter Soldier came out, and he mentioned a party scene early on in the film, and that Marvel was considering having Carol Danvers appear in a stinger, but that was one of several possible rewrites that hadn't been pinned down yet. Both of these turned out to be correct (including that a Danvers cameo was considered but rejected) almost a year before the film premiered. He also knew that Civil War was going to be the inspiration for the third Cap film a year in advance. I mean, take everything from the rumor mill with a healthy dose of salt, but I believe that Faraci does have some fairly accurate insider info. Not all the people he's getting it from may be on base (re: the negative Daredevil buzz), but I have no reason to believe he was reporting that in bad faith. Barry Convex posted:That said, while Johnston's sources clearly have an axe to grind against Feige, they also seem to be closer to Marvel Television than Faraci's or McWeeny's sources, so who knows. What area would you say McWeeny is most accurate in? I'm not as familiar with him. Crisco Kid fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Oct 12, 2015 02:42
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So has anyone posted a full spoiler review of episode 1 anywhere yet?
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Oct 12, 2015 06:37
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New interview with Rosenberg and Ritter. Note that some critics and press have already seen the second episode. http://collider.com/jessica-jones-krysten-ritter-melissa-rosenberg-interview-nycc/
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Graaah I'm hype as gently caress for JJ now, I'm glad it's getting really good reaction. Here's a good copy of the DD s2 "trailer", the new footage starts at 1:30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmmFjIC1TAE
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zoux posted:Graaah I'm hype as gently caress for JJ now, I'm glad it's getting really good reaction. The clean version has been uploaded here without any Season 1 footage: http://entertaintheidea.com/post/131021116408/father-why-do-i-still-feel-guilty-beg-and-watch "B E G ."
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Oct 12, 2015 16:29
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S.J. Clarkson directed the first two episodes of JJ? She did a couple of episodes for Banshee's first season. poo poo's gonna own. 
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Barry Convex posted:New interview with Rosenberg and Ritter. Note that some critics and press have already seen the second episode. quote:ROSENBERG: The only thing we couldn’t do was drop F-bombs, which we wanted to really. 
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HIJK posted:The clean version has been uploaded here without any Season 1 footage: http://entertaintheidea.com/post/131021116408/father-why-do-i-still-feel-guilty-beg-and-watch I know there's only like a split second of The Punisher at the end (I have no idea what we're spoiler tagging and what we're not). But drat that got me excited. The Punisher was never one of my favorites growing up, but Garth Ennis' run really turned me onto the character, especially in part because of Steve Dillon's art - anyway - I was excited for DD Season 2 already, but now I'm loving pumped. I don't know where to set my expectations, but I am absolutely stoked. I honestly never read Jessica Jones, I don't recall why. My passing knowledge of the character didn't have me interested in that series when it was announced, but considering it's getting good buzz, I'm definitely interested now. Can anyone recommend a quick primer for the series? TIA. I don't have time to go read her whole catalog, but is there a run that covers the basics?
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Tuxedo Jack posted:I honestly never read Jessica Jones, I don't recall why. My passing knowledge of the character didn't have me interested in that series when it was announced, but considering it's getting good buzz, I'm definitely interested now. Can anyone recommend a quick primer for the series? TIA. I don't have time to go read her whole catalog, but is there a run that covers the basics? There is no series called Jessica Jones. Just read Alias, then if you want more move onto The Pulse. She doesn't have an extensive catalog -- that's her first appearance even though they insert her into some backstory.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:I know there's only like a split second of The Punisher at the end (I have no idea what we're spoiler tagging and what we're not). Her comic book series is called Alias (it has no relation to the Abrams show.) It's one long run and then she becomes a significant side character to the Marvel U. I am so nervous and excited for season 2. I think The Punisher will be stellar (Jesus, Bernthal sold me with one raspy word) though I worry Matt's love life will become a plot tumour and take away from the hard-nosed brutality. (Karen can go to hell, is what I'm saying.) But I can always fast forward and get to Frank. Excitement!
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Matt's love life has always been a huge part of his character. Plus we're getting Elektra, so yeah, it'll be there.
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Oct 12, 2015 17:34
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Codependent Poster posted:Matt's love life has always been a huge part of his character. Plus we're getting Elektra, so yeah, it'll be there. To be fair when a characters love life involves Greek assassins and ancient ninja clans it tends to be more interesting.
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JESSICA JONES PREMIERES IN FIVE AND A HALF WEEKS, WHY IS THERE NOT A PROPER TRAILER YET, goddammit Marvek
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Oct 12, 2015 18:24
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Barry Convex posted:JESSICA JONES PREMIERES IN FIVE AND A HALF WEEKS, WHY IS THERE NOT A PROPER TRAILER YET, goddammit Marvek Was coming to post the same. I kind of expected a trailer over the weekend or today after the initial buzz of showing the pilot at NYCC.
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Oct 12, 2015 18:26
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They didn't really ramp up the Daredevil promos until a few weeks before it came out. So I'd say at the end of the month/start of November is when we'll get the advertising rush. Like maybe expect them to promote the first trailer on Agents of SHIELD.
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