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Kashuno posted:Tomm's reasoning doesn't logically follow; he claims I am doing this as a "weird defense of SA," yet I was the first one to call SA out for acting scummy against Conall. Calling out someone for being weird or casing someone strangely isn't an automatic defense of another player, it's analysis of the player that I'm calling out. It's a forced argument that reads to me as if Tomm isn't following the game closely, and is jumping on a really bad train. I agree with this paragraph and it kind of summarizes how Tomm just jumps on a bandwagon and adds only fake content to it. TMMadman posted:Also, if the whole things sound fake, why vote for Kashuno? You seem to think we are both scum buddies, so why be the first vote on a guy instead of putting your vote on the other guy you suspect is scum who already has a vote? Granted the only vote on me at the time is by a guy you think is scum, but the point still stands: if you think we are both scum, shouldn't you be looking to make one of us a viable lynch candidate instead of starting the train on the other? okay, so what do you think of Tommunist, who says why he thinks Kash is scummier?
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 21:14 |
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Checking in real quick cause it's a work night and I need sleep. I can see Kash or Tmm faking that exhange but it didn't stand out to me before it was pointed out so that might be some bias affecting me. I'm gonna contribute more tomorrow when I can read things closer and the weekend is over. Not moving my vote yet cause I still like my dumb case even if nobody else does.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 21:52 |
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Kashuno posted:Tomm's reasoning doesn't logically follow; he claims I am doing this as a "weird defense of SA," yet I was the first one to call SA out for acting scummy against Conall. Calling out someone for being weird or casing someone strangely isn't an automatic defense of another player, it's analysis of the player that I'm calling out. It's a forced argument that reads to me as if Tomm isn't following the game closely, and is jumping on a really bad train. You were, but then you claimed you didn't think he was scum and voted for TMM after he made a post on kashuno. And it's not like SA hadn't had pressure on him before that, so I think noting that you were the first to call him out for acting weird against conall is kinda moot, you were t pioneering anything.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:03 |
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Tommunist posted:You were, but then you claimed you didn't think he was scum and voted for TMM after he made a post on kashuno. And it's not like SA hadn't had pressure on him before that, so I think noting that you were the first to call him out for acting weird against conall is kinda moot, you were t pioneering anything. Reread Tmm and tell me you think he's town
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:05 |
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##unvote
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:06 |
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Magnus Gallant posted:Reread Tmm and tell me you think he's town Will do, he was someone else I considered when I put my post on kashuno.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:08 |
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TMMadman posted:Hey PMush, why did you ignore this question? TMMadman posted:Also, if the whole things sound fake, why vote for Kashuno? You seem to think we are both scum buddies, so why be the first vote on a guy instead of putting your vote on the other guy you suspect is scum who already has a vote? Granted the only vote on me at the time is by a guy you think is scum, but the point still stands: if you think we are both scum, shouldn't you be looking to make one of us a viable lynch candidate instead of starting the train on the other?
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:24 |
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Mafia edit: really bad at hiding that Kash is your scum buddy*
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:25 |
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Poison Mushroom posted:Right, let me just hurry and give you a four paragraph analysis of the in-depth particulars of a gut feeling. I didn't ask you to give a 4 paragraph analysis of why you felt the exchange between me and Kash, I simply asked you for a reason. If you want to go with gut, then that's fine. Why do you feel the need to be so defensive and dismissive of a simple question? Also, how is it being defensive when I'm asking you why you didn't vote for me? And your attitude towards voting and not spending time actually deciding who is scum disturbs me. ##vote PMush
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:35 |
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I'm being dismissive because you're trying to distract the attention away from you and undermine my argument. And the more I argue with you about it, the more your plan succeeds.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:40 |
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Poison Mushroom posted:I'm being dismissive because you're trying to distract the attention away from you and undermine my argument. And the more I argue with you about it, the more your plan succeeds. So asking you questions to clarify your position on me is trying to draw attention away from me? And what argument? You said you're voting on a gut call.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:46 |
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TMM is giving heated dismissals of people and their opinions so far. I'm pretty confident about my vote.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:51 |
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On a reread, I've cooled on SA. I'd much rather ##vote tommunist Would also vote TMM.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:55 |
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Wow...that's some pages and walls of texts to read. I want to contemplate. But first, I suspect that there's a glitch in WoW to gain secret advantages for your own character like ##vote Section 31
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:57 |
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Kashuno posted:TMM is giving heated dismissals of people and their opinions so far. I'm pretty confident about my vote. Once again, can some explain how I'm being dismissive when I am directly engaging PMush and asking the reasons behind her vote?
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:57 |
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Section 31 posted:Wow...that's some pages and walls of texts to read. why do you do this weird poo poo
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:57 |
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Also, I'm convinced one of these players have secret hack running in their background.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:58 |
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BottleKnight posted:why do you do this weird poo poo
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 22:58 |
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we are way past jokephase, dude.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 23:00 |
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BottleKnight posted:we are way past jokephase, dude. yeah this is really questionable
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 23:03 |
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Tommunist posted:Will do, he was someone else I considered when I put my post on kashuno. and by will do i mean will do when i can spend more then 5 mins on it
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 23:08 |
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TMMadman posted:Once again, can some explain how I'm being dismissive when I am directly engaging PMush and asking the reasons behind her vote? Discussing with someone and talking down to them are two different things dude
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 23:49 |
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Votecount for Day 1 Kashuno (3): TMMadman, CapitalistPig (2): Quidnose, Conall, Poison Mushroom, Someone Awful! (2): BottleKnight, uranus, TMMadman, CapitalistPig, TMMadman (2): Kashuno, Someone Awful! Tommunist (1): BottleKnight Poison Mushroom (1): TMMadman Section 31 (1): Quidnose, BottleKnight (0): Kashuno, Not Voting (4): fiery_valkyrie, imgay, Magnus Gallant, MEDS CURE SCHIZOS With 16 alive, it's 9 votes to lynch. The current deadline is October 12th, 2015 at noon EDT -- that's in about 16 hours, 3 minutes.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 00:56 |
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Also, is this deadline okay? I'm awful at timezones, so I can bump it a bit if it doesn't work for people.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 00:57 |
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Its terrible. Thats 2am for me.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 01:31 |
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f_v is in this game?
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 01:38 |
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Its terrible. Thats 2am for me. 3 am for me
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 01:42 |
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Kashuno posted:f_v is in this game? Rude.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 01:44 |
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Enjoy your extra ten hours to yell at each other then.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 01:52 |
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Rude. It was over 2 and a half days.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 03:02 |
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It was the weekend.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 03:07 |
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Nice drama between Poison Mushroom and TMMadman ##vote TMMadman
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 08:44 |
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Section 31 posted:Nice drama between Poison Mushroom and TMMadman Does this mean you think they are both scum? Would you vote for PMush instead?
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 11:11 |
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Kashuno posted:It's not just your SA vote, but your reaction to the scenario. You didn't feel confident enough to vote SA right away, but once the votes started rolling in, you were quick to hop on. You then question my alignment read, and are now acting defensive and condescending when I've not rolled over and let you off this case with no suspicion. I agree with Kash here. TMMadman posted:So it's weird to you that I think a bad post is bad and when asked why I think it's bad, I explain myself and cast a vote? The issue for me TMM is that you didn't think the post warranted a vote until two other people had voted the player you talked about. If you'd had your vote on another player and you were serious about that vote, I could understand you might have some reluctance to move it, but you were only sitting on a joke vote. Also, why wait to be asked before explaining why you thought it was a bad post? ##vote TMM
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 11:53 |
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BottleKnight posted:Because I also agree with what PMush said. You have more analysis on why Kash is a better vote than TMM, which reads as far worse to me. BottleKnight posted:Yes. That, and the context of why you would put in that extra effort when it amounts to the main reason being that they are both scum together. I don't get why you are separating them as vote candidates when your main reason is that it was a scum slapfight and they are both scum. BK, I don't understand what you are saying here. You agree with Tommunist that the Kash/TMM interaction is probably scum-on-scum, but Tommunist is suspicious for posting some additional thoughts and voting for Kash? If he had voted for Kash with no other comments would you be suspicious? If he had voted for TMM would you be suspicious?
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 12:01 |
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Poison Mushroom posted:Right, let me just hurry and give you a four paragraph analysis of the in-depth particulars of a gut feeling. This is a really over the top reaction to being asked to expand on your opinion in a game where that is pretty much all we do. I think it's reasonable for TMM to ask and I'd also like you to elaborate since you never answered the question. Now that we're nearing deadline and there is a lot more content, can you explain why you think TMM/Kash are scum outside of "gut feelings"?
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 12:09 |
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Now that we're nearing deadline and there is a lot more content, can you explain why you think TMM/Kash are scum outside of "gut feelings"? It's like a robot playing a piano. All the notes are right, but the way they're played is stiff and exact and it's kind of unnerving.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 12:15 |
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I am not an emotional player
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 12:18 |
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For what it's worth, I could see pmush and TMM scum together. Pmush feels like they're floundering right now especially with pmush coming out and saying "yeah they both look scummy right guys? Vote kash" to keep some sus on TMM in case he flips scum, but also pushing pressure off him onto me by making people choose a side in the argument. When I'm at a computer I'll try to build s better case
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 12:27 |
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Poison Mushroom posted:Not really? Their responses back and forth feel incredibly standard for what I've seen of them in slap fights, but it's almost too perfect? Too consistent, which is a weird thing to say. Something about how perfectly normal they're being strikes me as abnormal. Especially for an emotional player like Kashuno, I'm suspicious. This is an incredibly forced post. You really want to hang your defense on it''s 'almost too perfect'?
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