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420 Gank Mid posted:What on earth made you think that Duncan would be an internet libertarian? Much less the confrontational/ranting/internet libertarian type? Because he's a white male history nerd on the internet. If you haven't noticed, they tend to have a libertarian streak to them
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icantfindaname posted:Because he's a white male history nerd on the internet. If you haven't noticed, they tend to have a libertarian streak to them Of course. Why bother analyzing his work and what he's actually said when we can just apply broad stereotypes? Obvious, really. 
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Oct 13, 2015 00:02
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icantfindaname posted:Because he's a white male history nerd on the internet. If you haven't noticed, they tend to have a libertarian streak to them Have you even bothered listening to any of his podcasts or did you just search his name on tumblr?
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Oct 13, 2015 00:59
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I admittedly haven't listened to much of History of Rome, but I think Mike does a pretty good job at keeping his personal biases out of the story. The only real stand-out editorialising I can easily recall him doing is canonising Talleyrand ("one of my all time favourite guys"), and really going to town on Marxist interpretations of the French revolution. And I think he's pretty clear that for all the noble spirit of the revolution, it ultimately turned out to be a 15 year period of massive upheaval that ended in much the same place as it started - with an unelected ruler wielding ultimate authority. Mike might be a crazy raving internet libertarian, I don't know him so I can't say. But as long as he keeps his personal opinions out of his work (and I think he does that pretty well), who really cares?
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Oct 13, 2015 01:01
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He went to town on Marxist interpretations in the first episode and then the entire 50 whatever episodes were about class warfare. So. Lets see what he says in his wrap up show.
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Oct 13, 2015 01:03
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Except he's not a libertarian, from what I can tell.
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Oct 13, 2015 01:04
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This one is pretty easy to figure this out: he confused Mike Duncan with Dan Carlin and is (poorly) trying to save face
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Oct 13, 2015 02:44
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I misread it as 'internet librarian' and thought this was about hatred against people who read Wikipedia for their history podcasts.
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Oct 13, 2015 03:40
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webmeister posted:And I think he's pretty clear that for all the noble spirit of the revolution, it ultimately turned out to be a 15 year period of massive upheaval that ended in much the same place as it started - with an unelected ruler wielding ultimate authority.
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Oct 13, 2015 15:44
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webmeister posted:I admittedly haven't listened to much of History of Rome, but I think Mike does a pretty good job at keeping his personal biases out of the story. The only real stand-out editorialising I can easily recall him doing is canonising Talleyrand ("one of my all time favourite guys"), and really going to town on Marxist interpretations of the French revolution. And I think he's pretty clear that for all the noble spirit of the revolution, it ultimately turned out to be a 15 year period of massive upheaval that ended in much the same place as it started - with an unelected ruler wielding ultimate authority. I don't actually mind personal opinions in my history podcasts. I like them. I enjoy agreeing and disagreeing with them.
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Oct 13, 2015 16:17
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420 Gank Mid posted:Have you even bothered listening to any of his podcasts or did you just search his name on tumblr? i've listened to the whole revolutions series dude, and posted here that i didn't detect any bias in them. you must have read that post, you responded to it. and lol @ the tumblr comment you seem very touchy about libertarian history nerds on the internet being called out for having poo poo views The Experiment posted:This one is pretty easy to figure this out: he confused Mike Duncan with Dan Carlin and is (poorly) trying to save face icantfindaname posted:I have a very low tolerance for internet libertarian stuff, and Duncan doesn't give off any of it / at least enough of it to bother me. I was surprised by how positive on the revolutionaries he was. As for the monarchy, the Ancien Regime isn't actually liked by libertarians, so there's no contradiction there it's cool how any comment even vaguely critical of the kind of far-right Ron Paul style libertarianism rampant on the internet, in nerd circles, and among history nerds specifically, even one explicitly saying Duncan isn't that and praising him for it, gets people crawling out of the woodwork to scream about tumblr icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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Oct 13, 2015 20:57
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Who are you raging against? I don't get it.
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icantfindaname posted:it's cool how any comment even vaguely critical of the kind of far-right Ron Paul style libertarianism rampant on the internet, in nerd circles, and among history nerds specifically, even one explicitly saying Duncan isn't that and praising him for it, gets people crawling out of the woodwork to scream about tumblr Lemme see if I can help you out, dude. No one in this thread was saying "Hey, is Mike Duncan a crazed Internet Libertarian?" before you showed up to answer the question that no one was asking, and the fact that you decided to throw in a sweeping generalization about how All Internet Libertarians Are History Nerds And Therefore By The Transitive Property or whatever was kind of a headscratcher. It makes you look sort of silly. Hope this helps.
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Oct 13, 2015 23:06
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So the pattern of posts was people discussing whether or not Duncan was pro-monarchy or at least anti-revolutionary. Icantfindaname then comments that he didn't seem to be particularly libertarian either, which was relevant because it is another anti-revolutionary ideology. It even came with a little disclaimer at the end where icant acknowledged libertarians weren't really pro-monarchy either, just anti-revolutionary. Then we have a few pages of people being angry at icant's sorta poorly worded first post, and instead of realizing he might need to explain icant decides that this is a clear sign that everyone in the thread is a libertarian. Is this what we've got here?
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Oct 14, 2015 03:51
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icantfindaname posted:
I'm very touchy about people trying to poo poo talk Mike Duncan.
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Oct 14, 2015 03:54
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Duncan's clearly a dyed in the wool Optimate, you retards.
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Oct 14, 2015 04:05
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Napoleon was dope, I bet Duncan would agree
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Oct 14, 2015 08:20
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Mike Duncan is like a boxer.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:58
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How are u posted:Mike Duncan is like a boxer. Yeah but is he an internet libertarian boxer?
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Oct 14, 2015 18:35
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Again, and again, and again, and again
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Oct 14, 2015 23:56
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How are u posted:Mike Duncan is like a boxer. A heavyweight boxer, to be precise. It's always heavyweights and they're always at the end of their ropes. I went back and listened to the punic wars series and laughed out loud when he pulled out the heavyweight boxing championship match metaphor for what may have been the first time when talking about rome vs carthage
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Oct 15, 2015 00:03
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Bohemian Nights posted:A heavyweight boxer, to be precise. It's always heavyweights and they're always at the end of their ropes. Nah he's always done the boxing metaphors. Over the last few months I've listened to the entire HH series and there's literally a "punch drunk boxer" metaphor 10 minutes into the second episode.
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Oct 15, 2015 01:51
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And that man's name was...Adolf Hitler.
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Oct 15, 2015 02:00
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A simply unlucky roll of the monarchy dice, folks.
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Oct 15, 2015 02:03
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The best is in Blueprint for armageddon, when America enters WWI is like a third boxer entering the ring
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Oct 15, 2015 02:47
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Really hoping he covers the Macedonian Funeral Games in more depth just so I can get like 12 boxers at once.
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ArnieD posted:The best is in Blueprint for armageddon, when America enters WWI is like a third boxer entering the ring *in uncannily accurate Kaiser Wilhelm voice* MEIN GOTT, THAT'S UNCLE SAM'S MUSIC!!
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Oct 15, 2015 03:04
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He should do a combat sports episode and make constant war metaphors.
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Oct 15, 2015 10:43
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Are there any podcasts on 20th century history after WWII? Like wars in Indochina, Algeria, Vietnam?
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midnightclimax posted:Are there any podcasts on 20th century history after WWII? Like wars in Indochina, Algeria, Vietnam? Dan Carlin does talk a lot about the wars of the later 20th century in Common Sense, but they aren't the same kind of indepth organized episodes as you get from Hardcore History, just a lot of spread out choice bits often drowned out by the conspiratorially minded interpretation of current events.
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Does anyone else listen to Millennial? I'm hate listening to it now, and I kinda want to slap the body and get boyfriend for being a spoiled Millennial who has had it super easy in the year or two since she graduated college. She turned down a plum internship, she went in a totally different direction from her degree, and she's been all weepy about how its not magically coming to her. then, when she actually did make a move, she just started begging for jobs, rather than networking the smart way and asking for advice and guidance. Now she has a podcast sponsor (Squarespace! Shock of shocks!), and she's trying to get NPR backing despite her update schedule being a 20 minute podcast every month or two. She's really exactly what people complain about when complaining about millennialism. and for context, I'm a Millennial too. It took me 4 years to find a decent paying job in my region, and I worked for it. This viewpoint that she has drives me crazy.
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Bohemian Nights posted:A heavyweight boxer, to be precise. It's always heavyweights and they're always at the end of their ropes. Is this the same as being on the ropes?
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Oct 23, 2015 22:52
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Also I got a great vibe off Duncan early in the American Revolution series where he goes "the entire rhetoric of the American founding fathers is irrelevant due to how they treated blacks and natives", he was pretty strong and unequivocal about it. I'm pretty sure to be an Internet Libertarian you have to love the founding fathers, that feels required.
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Oct 23, 2015 22:55
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Anyone listened to History on Fire? Just checked out the first episode today (only two episodes as of yet) on The Slave/Servile Wars in Rome, and have been enjoying it so far. The host is an Italian history professor, and the podcast falls somewhere between the spectrum of Carlin and Duncan in tone and depth of information, probably closer to HH than HoR in length and presentation.
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Oct 23, 2015 23:11
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Cervixalot posted:Anyone listened to History on Fire? Just checked out the first episode today (only two episodes as of yet) on The Slave/Servile Wars in Rome, and have been enjoying it so far. I haven't heard his new podcast but Daniele Bolelli is really knowledgeable and pretty entertaining.
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Oct 24, 2015 06:15
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Cervixalot posted:Anyone listened to History on Fire? Just checked out the first episode today (only two episodes as of yet) on The Slave/Servile Wars in Rome, and have been enjoying it so far. It's fun, just listened to the first episode. Like his accent.
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Oct 24, 2015 13:57
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 ''I guess I'm sold. Will check this out later.
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Oct 24, 2015 18:33
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I was put off by the Joe Rogan connection and getting into the accent initially (as well as the "everyone has been a slave and slave owner, man" implication), but it's pretty smooth getting into and I'm excited to hear him go into the non-Spartacus servile wars.
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lol yeah, I was like "Joe Rogan?!" and several alarm bells went off in my head.
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Just gonna second this quote from the True Stories thread and recommend the poo poo out of Detective:Wake_N_Bake posted:This is half story telling, half crime, but Detective is loving fascinating. Joe Kenda, retired homicide lieutenant, tells stories from his time on the force. He has a wonderful voice and narrative style, I highly recommend it! This is the guy. Good stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS6dR2xto3o PerilPastry fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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