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The thing I like about V2 is that with pops and everything it feels like I'm running an actual nation. I can never get into EU4 because even with all the expansions it still just feels like my only goal is to paint the map the color I picked at the start of the game.
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Sindai posted:We've got like 10 weeks before the end of the year, that's plenty of time. And they're already doing full feature dev diaries and streams so it can't be that far off. They've basically got to name this one Leviathan, right? The domestic politics emphasis kinda demands it. Maybe The Prince but that doesn't sound as good.
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Oct 13, 2015 21:09
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thatdarnedbob posted:They've basically got to name this one Leviathan, right? The domestic politics emphasis kinda demands it. Maybe The Prince but that doesn't sound as good. They should go the whole hog and call it Two Treatises of Government: In the Former, The False Principles, and Foundation of Sir Robert Filmer, and His Followers, Are Detected and Overthrown. The Latter Is an Essay Concerning The True Original, Extent, and End of Civil Government.
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Oct 13, 2015 21:11
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The name also has to lead in to a horrible pun or joke Johan can add to the Comet Sighted event. Leviathan definitely allows for a "space monster" option.
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Oct 13, 2015 21:31
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Victoria 2 is too short, please somehow make the victorian era last longer next time.
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Oct 13, 2015 21:33
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Back To 99 posted:Victoria 2 is too short, please somehow make the victorian era last longer next time. Someone did ask for an 1821 start (Not really Victorian, but better than playing those 15 years in EU IV).
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Oct 13, 2015 22:12
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Just be honest about what we're doing and use Arithmetica Universalis.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:14
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Back To 99 posted:Victoria 2 is too short, please somehow make the victorian era last longer next time. Sssh. No. They'll make hourly ticks like HOI, and no one will get past 1850.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:27
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Back To 99 posted:Victoria 2 is too short, please somehow make the victorian era last longer next time. "Long 19th Century 3" isn't a very catchy title though.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:32
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Bort Bortles posted:I figured they were waiting to announce it so they could sell it for full price right before Christmas, since they sell so many things on sale around then. I doubt it, though that's without any backing. Why would you throw down a full price game when there's a lot of other poo poo on sale to compete with? I don't think Steam-games make good Chirstmas presents for the fam.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:41
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I've actually made purchases on christmas day for the last few years via steam, I get money then, and its hella convenient.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:51
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Back To 99 posted:Victoria 2 is too short, please somehow make the victorian era last longer next time. 1748 Treaty of Aix-la-Chapelle to 2048 Rise of Immortan Joe 
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Oct 13, 2015 22:52
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we need rome 2 before victoria 3 hth
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Oct 13, 2015 23:15
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Sindai posted:Or maybe the real problem is just that they haven't come up with a catchy name yet. The Madness of Crowds? The Comet event options alone are limitless. *edit* It's off by a couple decades, but that's nothing compared to Art of War's couple millenia. MilkmanLuke fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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Oct 13, 2015 23:17
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MilkmanLuke posted:The Madness of Crowds? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War_(Machiavelli)
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Oct 14, 2015 05:23
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:I certainly have no idea how valuable forts were to 1800s army strategy- but I'm guessing less important that in prior centuries- but I'd also probably prefer the EUIV fort defense system for provinces. Then at least I could figure out roughly where people will attack, as opposed to everything feeling like just one open mess of space. Seeing as how "EuIV fort defense system" is from MoTE its pretty fitting for the period, and might even simulate Verdun etc.Tech might change how much you have to invest / how tight the line of forts have to be (until its not really worth it).
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Oct 14, 2015 07:15
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Kavak posted:Someone did ask for an 1821 start (Not really Victorian, but better than playing those 15 years in EU IV). I think it's important that Victoria X starts with a "clean" new world where the revolts that are going to happen have already happened, instead of spain still retaining the intent to reclaim its american holdings, so no 1836 really should stay the Vicky start date.
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Oct 14, 2015 07:35
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Estates General
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reignonyourparade posted:I think it's important that Victoria X starts with a "clean" new world where the revolts that are going to happen have already happened, instead of spain still retaining the intent to reclaim its american holdings, so no 1836 really should stay the Vicky start date. If EU IV can find a way to represent very early railroads and industrialization (Maybe have manufactories give a % bonus to production income overall or something to make them actually worth building), I'll agree. I understand your problem with the clusterfuck most of America would be, but I don't want Paradox to cut out any years, especially since they're willing to sell converter tools now. Besides, they can always keep the 1836 and later start dates  .
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I was thinking 1821 could just be an optional converter start, not the new default. 1836 does make more sense for a vanilla campaign. I would like to see factions and political parties modelled as actual entities though, with distinct characteristics, AI, and goals. Revolutions are one of the most hypothetically interesting things about Vicky 2, but they often play out in a super obnoxious way. It'd be neat if you could actually align yourself with a specific faction/party and had to negotiate and compromise with the others, instead of just running your country in a totally counter-intuitive way to shift popular ideology around. Basically there's elements from every newer Paradox game that I think would serve as a good starting model for building a Vicky 3. I wouldn't want to see it just turned into another Eu4 though. I agree that I like having a better sense of what my nation is and about in practical terms, whereas Eu4 is abstracted to the point where I don't really get that same flavour/emergent story sense. Also I think industrialization and economic management is fun even despite all it's flaws. I like building supply chains, and having my diplomatic wrangling and conquests be informed by practical economic concerns as opposed to just "What's the next richest bit of map I can get away with painting my colour." I wish trade goods in Eu4 had more of an impact on the game. I'd also like to see naval combat and bases reworked to be more strategic, and so that key ports and bases become more important. Honestly in general Eu4 and Vicky need to make it more difficult to project power overseas. Of course all this fantasizing doesn't count for much since Stellaris and HoI4 both aren't even out yet and I don't think Victoria has ever really been a big hit for the studio.
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Oct 14, 2015 11:07
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V2 made them money, though.
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Chief Savage Man posted:V2 made them money, though. Yeah, but not enough, right? I remember reading some post by someone in this thread at some point saying it wasn't as much as expected, even if it was profitable.
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DrSunshine posted:Yeah, but not enough, right? I remember reading some post by someone in this thread at some point saying it wasn't as much as expected, even if it was profitable. Other way around. Wester had made a bet that if V2 turned a profit he'd shave his head. He lost spectacularly because V2 made more than just a profit.
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YF-23 posted:Other way around. Wester had made a bet that if V2 turned a profit he'd shave his head. He lost spectacularly because V2 made more than just a profit. Well poo poo I stand corrected. This is good news.
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YF-23 posted:Other way around. Wester had made a bet that if V2 turned a profit he'd shave his head. He lost spectacularly because V2 made more than just a profit. Ahhh. Well, that's pretty awesome then!
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Oct 14, 2015 18:14
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Mans posted:we need rome 2 before victoria 3 hth Why not both? Alt-history industrial revolution in Roman times.
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Oct 14, 2015 18:59
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Pdox once again screws with history by refusing to accept the technological implications of the aeliopile.
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Fister Roboto posted:Why not both? Alt-history industrial revolution in Roman times. Aeolipile Universalis.
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Oct 14, 2015 19:12
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Yes, Steam... EUIV and CKII DO have the 'simulation' keyword. But I'm not sure that word means what you think it means.   EDIT: This is because I bought the Way of Life DLC, isn't it?
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Oct 15, 2015 03:04
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the first three are legitimately good suggestions
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Oct 15, 2015 03:07
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Fintilgin posted:Yes, Steam... EUIV and CKII DO have the 'simulation' keyword. Whenever I go on a Shogun Total War binge Steam starts recommending anime games
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Oct 15, 2015 03:23
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StashAugustine posted:Whenever I go on a Shogun Total War binge Steam starts recommending anime games to be fair shogun is pretty anime
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Oct 15, 2015 03:31
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StashAugustine posted:Whenever I go on a Shogun Total War binge Steam starts recommending anime games I thought Steam recommended anime to everyone all the time.
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Oct 15, 2015 03:34
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Fintilgin posted:I thought Steam recommended anime to everyone all the time. The venn diagram of nerds who make bad decisions with their money and anime likers has an extremely large overlap.
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Oct 15, 2015 03:56
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When I bought and tried out Overgrowth, I started getting suggestions for 'Furry' games. Story Driven also returns some insane nonsense.
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Oct 15, 2015 04:00
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Sorry for derailing anime chat, but are there any other really excellent grand strategy games? EU4 is just about perfect , but you can only play through the default map so many times before it starts to get annoying, and I'm looking for something new. Or I'd settle for some kind of new starting map mods for EU4; like how CK2 has After The End and Game of Thrones for when you get bored of rampaging through Europe for the tenth time.
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Ghetto Prince posted:Sorry for derailing anime chat, but are there any other really excellent grand strategy games? EU4 is just about perfect , but you can only play through the default map so many times before it starts to get annoying, and I'm looking for something new. Have you considered using the random world generator in EU4? e: as in the one that randomizes tags, not the new world.
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Oct 15, 2015 05:49
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  Though the most interesting thing about this picture is Groogy posted:Podcat is now making me redo the Peace Conference AI because apparently some glory for Denmark is not allowed. oh yes
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Autonomous Monster posted:Though the most interesting thing about this picture is A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Autonomous Monster posted:
Pff I'm just teasing, no need to get so excited about it. You still know nothing more than I am messing up HOI4 
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