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comedyblissoption posted:it's going to turn out that reiner and monkey titan are the good guys It better loving be.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 09:43 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:28 |
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Oh come on. Levi loving had Reiner. Did he harden his brain stem?
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 15:23 |
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Lamebot posted:Oh come on. Levi loving had Reiner. Did he harden his brain stem? Though transformed, he looks pretty k.o. there, he was still thrown in the ground without moving in the last panel we've seen him. So maybe at least he won't be totally combat effective.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 15:31 |
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Lamebot posted:Oh come on. Levi loving had Reiner. Did he harden his brain stem? It's a credit to the series that my first thought when that happened was "drat, so close" and not "that was bullshit". Isayama does a good job of making characters appear rational and capable while still being subservient to the plot. I can't think of any occasions when it felt like the characters were acting dumb or incompetent so that the story could continue.
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# ? Oct 11, 2015 19:29 |
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While I still think there's going to be some legitimate reason why Reiner/Berthold/Monkey Titan are acting in the way they are, I doubt they they'll ever end up being considered "good guys" in light of the fact that we've seen the Monkey titan kill people for no real reason (and Reiner/Berthold have killed enough of the scout legion's members that they'll never be treated as anything other than enemies).
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 01:55 |
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It seems like both factions are various shades of gray.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 01:57 |
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monkey titan killed an enemy on sentry duty and got recon information on the enemy through spawning a bunch of titans monkey trouble did nothing wrong
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 02:48 |
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I think that Isayama has been hinting at a redemption arc for Bert and Reiner for a while. They've both been painted as child soldiers who were too young to really understand the gravity of their actions and too scared shitless by their leaders to change course. The whole discussions of the shifter village and Monkey Titan's presence leads me to believe that the real final villain of the story is probably someone living in the shifter village who we won't see for a while.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 06:29 |
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HorseRenoir posted:I think that Isayama has been hinting at a redemption arc for Bert and Reiner for a while. They've both been painted as child soldiers who were too young to really understand the gravity of their actions and too scared shitless by their leaders to change course. The whole discussions of the shifter village and Monkey Titan's presence leads me to believe that the real final villain of the story is probably someone living in the shifter village who we won't see for a while. They keep saying how they can't go back until they fulfilled their mission, as in- they're not allowed. Not to mention they aspire to be "Warriors". So yeah I think whoever hands out orders back home believes in the Darth Vader school of discipline. Yeah this manga is very much "realistic" in it's portrayal of bad people. Rod Reiss and Kenny were introduced as very bad people who did very bad things, and they were. But they had legitimate reasons behind their actions until it ground them down and made them cynical. Berthold, Reiner, and Annie will have legitimate point-of-view reasons for doing what they do. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Oct 12, 2015 |
# ? Oct 12, 2015 10:58 |
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this is dumb, they can just fly around the walls until reiner has to transform back, its not like any of the titans are faster and they are all stuck on the ground
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 21:10 |
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Bert is still inside the wall doing who knows what. Plus Monkey Trouble can still chuck rocks at them and fight them even if he didn't have a titan force backing him up. Hell he could even chuck Titans on top of them if we wanted to. Reiner could easily do the same.
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 21:23 |
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Asuron posted:Bert is still inside the wall doing who knows what. Plus Monkey Trouble can still chuck rocks at them and fight them even if he didn't have a titan force backing him up. but they cant really fly, so just hang around and they'll be fine
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 21:25 |
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Terror Sweat posted:this is dumb, they can just fly around the walls until reiner has to transform back, its not like any of the titans are faster and they are all stuck on the ground They'll run out of gas first
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# ? Oct 12, 2015 21:36 |
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So hyped for the next few chapters. We have so many bits of info about day/night titans, bloodlines, colassi making the walls, shifters vs regualr titans, hardening powers, some war beyond the walls, creating/controlling titans. This feels like the climax arc that will finally tie everything together.
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# ? Oct 13, 2015 03:49 |
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Terror Sweat posted:but they cant really fly, so just hang around and they'll be fine Logikv9 posted:They'll run out of gas first Also that. They're on finite resources and they can't escape.
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# ? Oct 13, 2015 08:22 |
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I think they'll win the fight, find the basement, and find a map to Tomorrowland where they go and have a final fight with the shifter people and learn how to love again.
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# ? Oct 13, 2015 14:31 |
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So three cups of coffee ... Berthold, Reiner and Monkey Trouble? Is Monkey Trouble a shifter?
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 02:07 |
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Lead out in cuffs posted:So three cups of coffee ... Berthold, Reiner and Monkey Trouble? Is Monkey Trouble a shifter? Did you miss the last 2~3 chapters?
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 02:28 |
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poo poo. This is the part where I'm sold on the cast dying off. I can't see them all surviving an Armoured Titan-Ape Escape onslaught.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 03:51 |
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Lead out in cuffs posted:So three cups of coffee ... Berthold, Reiner and Monkey Trouble? Is Monkey Trouble a shifter? yes
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 03:52 |
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why were they so surprised about 3 cups anyway they should already know that ymir went off with the other two. where is ymir anyway
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 03:58 |
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So we know they have new weapons based on titanite, wonder if they have any new tactics based on working with Eren and his hardening ability. Like they didn't know about Magilla, but they knew they would be fighting Bert and Reiner. I assume they have some plan for that beyond "Levi murks the fucker in 0.3 seconds maybe"
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 04:03 |
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Hot diggity! Finally some action. I hope Levi takes Monkey Trouble's trachea out.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 06:33 |
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Lead out in cuffs posted:So three cups of coffee ... Berthold, Reiner and Monkey Trouble? Is Monkey Trouble a shifter? Check the final page of chapter 70.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 11:37 |
TWIST FIST posted:why were they so surprised about 3 cups anyway they should already know that ymir went off with the other two. where is ymir anyway She volunteered to be a prisoner or something and was expecting to die at some point. Probably to turn one of Bert and Ernie's friends/member of colony into a shifter.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 12:28 |
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Shneak posted:poo poo. This is the part where I'm sold on the cast dying off. I can't see them all surviving an Armoured Titan-Ape Escape onslaught. They're not going to kill off the whole cast (at least not anytime soon). Maybe one or two important/semi-important characters, but this series (like pretty much every other title) is pretty resistant to killing off important characters, and I believe it's been confirmed to last a good deal longer so we're not going to get some "surprise! game over!" ending.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 17:16 |
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Ytlaya posted:They're not going to kill off the whole cast (at least not anytime soon). Maybe one or two important/semi-important characters, but this series (like pretty much every other title) is pretty resistant to killing off important characters, and I believe it's been confirmed to last a good deal longer so we're not going to get some "surprise! game over!" ending. Yeah, people keep lusting for main character death all the time, and not just in this manga but all sorts of media, like they're all an 80s era DnD campaign. Turns out the reason that doesn't happen is because it's makes for a loving awful story.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 17:34 |
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A pot cant cool off in 2 minutes, <super close up of the face>, They must of seen of 5 minutes before we got here. This loving manga I swear spends the most time on the most random rear end poo poo.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 21:46 |
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Prison Warden posted:Yeah, people keep lusting for main character death all the time, and not just in this manga but all sorts of media, like they're all an 80s era DnD campaign. Turns out the reason that doesn't happen is because it's makes for a loving awful story. See: Game of Thrones
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 22:00 |
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flowinprose posted:See: Game of Thrones I agree, it's a great example of what I'm talking about.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 22:07 |
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Prison Warden posted:I agree, it's a great example of what I'm talking about. Well, it is and it isn't. Plenty of point of view characters have been killed off, while plenty of others have survived near death multiple times. The combination of both is what creates tension. If everybody always died, you would just get too numb to it and not even flinch when it kept happening. On the other hand if some major characters die (Ned Stark is a prominent example) while others live, it makes their escape from death all that much more dramatic and exciting. So there is something to be said for killing off major characters, but you can't kill all of them. Attack on Titan has had far fewer major characters die than Game of Thrones. So far none of the characters who have died in Attack on Titan have been nearly as prominent as Ned or Robb Stark. I think the biggest death so far has probably been what, Marco or Hannes? I guess you could sort of count Annie or Kenny, but they were villains so that works differently.
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 23:20 |
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Oh, no, my point is that in Game of Thrones it's ALL unimportant characters who die, aside from Ned, the only characters who have died have been ancillary or secondary characters. It has a rep for a high body count, but that's mostly because a lot of the secondary cast gets thrown under the bus. Martin masks this a bit by having characters who seem important because they are in positions of power, like Robb for example, when actually they don't matter at all. He goes so far to kill people and then bring them back as zombies and such and by throwing in a bunch of useless perspectives in the last two books and then killing them. This is to basically serve the same purpose as Ned or Marco in Attack on Titan, to let the audience know that poo poo is "real".
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# ? Oct 14, 2015 23:42 |
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Prison Warden posted:Oh, no, my point is that in Game of Thrones it's ALL unimportant characters who die, aside from Ned, the only characters who have died have been ancillary or secondary characters. It has a rep for a high body count, but that's mostly because a lot of the secondary cast gets thrown under the bus. Martin masks this a bit by having characters who seem important because they are in positions of power, like Robb for example, when actually they don't matter at all. He goes so far to kill people and then bring them back as zombies and such and by throwing in a bunch of useless perspectives in the last two books and then killing them. This is to basically serve the same purpose as Ned or Marco in Attack on Titan, to let the audience know that poo poo is "real". I think we're both pretty much in agreement. I just think the characters who have died in GoT so far have on average been bigger players and/or more prominent characters than those who have died in AoT. To me, an equivalent to Robb Stark or Renley Baratheon dying would be something like Hanji or Erwin dying. So far we haven't seen any of the "good guys" that prominent to the story go down.
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# ? Oct 15, 2015 03:51 |
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The BBC has a small piece about AoT and an interview with Isayama. "I had a dream of no limits."
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# ? Oct 19, 2015 22:09 |
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3018930quote:*Yawn* Here I thought it might be something exciting . But no. Sorry, but I can't care. I read manga and not American mainstream comics because American mainstream comics are like the opposite of what I like, 99 percent of the time. I wish American comics were more like manga, not the other way around. could've swore this type of insufferable weeb disappeared in the mid 00's
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# ? Nov 5, 2015 04:44 |
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Some untranslated scans have come up. Not too far now from an english release.
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# ? Nov 5, 2015 10:49 |
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Some next chapter spoilers. edit: Whoops. A bit late. Edit edit: Reiner is so screwed. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Nov 5, 2015 |
# ? Nov 5, 2015 11:59 |
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This is gonna be good.
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# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:13 |
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Every chapter is good.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 12:09 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:28 |
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Erwin owns. This chapter is going to own.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 18:11 |