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Rarity posted:Is it just me or has game quality taken a massive nosedive since I went on my hiatus? I'm not seeing any of the good analytical players in games any more and I think it's making games way less fun. This has been said every time someone takes an absence and comes back to a new crop of people.
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I personally feel like No Voting in MyLo becomes more and more town-favoring the more town PRs are left, and the more uncertain you are about who is town. I'd much rather no-dunk with four players than play the LyLo game with one more townie thrown into the mix. Plus, the Survivor gambit doesn't work with 4. 
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Oct 16, 2015 09:52
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From a scum perspective, I will argue as hard as possible for a no-lynch to end up in an odd numbered endgame. It's easier to fool one bastard than two.
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The Ninth Layer posted:Theoryposting This is really helpful, thanks. With four players, three votes are required for execution. Klungar, a Vanilla Town video game, has been executed Day Six. Votecount: Klungar (3): Puntification, Birdstrike, Bottle Knight Bottle Knight (1): Klungar Puntification (0): Bottle Knight, It is now Night Six. Puntification, A Vanilla Town tooth has been killed Night Six. Birdstrike, A Vanilla Town politics has been endgamed by Bottle Knight, A Scum video game. Scum wins. Thank you for (not) playing. MODDOC What makes this interesting is that the results from purely random choices are basically indistinguishable from those made based on statistics. What To address PMush's earlier comment: If you look at the moddoc, obviously SSV was scum and Tommunist was town, but why they were doing what they were doing was both similar, but also fairly different. Vimes had a flexibility rating of 96, third highest in the game. When it comes time for people to reconsider their votes, if they're not on a vote leader, a player with a high flexibility is going to be one of the first to make a move to a leader, thus helping swing that vote. (There is still no model in the game to prevent scum from voting other scum. So far it has fairly accurately modeled bussing, and the simulated scums have not in general completely blown their chances by hanging each other.) Now, on the other end of the spectrum, Tommunist had the lowest flexibility in the game, 6---even lower than Lumpen's 9. This simulated Tomm didn't just attack, they had lockjaw. However, if it means that Tomm has to move from one target to the next, there's an almost-guaranteed chance that it's the hammer. It just turns out that in this game, the two voting patterns ended up orbiting around each other in a manner that looks like a pair of scums trying to look separate from each other.
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Allen Wren posted:What makes this interesting is that the results from purely random choices are basically indistinguishable from those made based on statistics.  This is really loving neat though.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:25
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Also:Poison Mushroom posted:Post Restriction Mafia, a game for 14 players, is
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Oct 16, 2015 10:30
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I know it's 5:30 AM but someone should talk at me about poo poo. I am running on one hour of sleep and some coffee and watching some PBS thing about how maybe the Trojan Horse was actually a battering ram or siege tower or something.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:33
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Do we know that the Trojan Horse wasn't constructed by aliens?
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Oct 16, 2015 10:36
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:Do we know that the Trojan Horse wasn't constructed by aliens?
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Poison Mushroom posted:Honestly, I believe "hyped up story about a covered battering ram" a lot more than I just believe "they let in a giant wooden horse that came from nowhere while at war because something something Poseidon". I hope Hera turns your tongue into a snake and Zeus smites you with thunderbolts for uttering such heresies. We all know it was an actual wooden horse. Homer said so, and he's blessed by the Muses. PBS is blessed with support from viewers like you.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:42
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Also who read about something that appears to be safe and then once you let it into your most vulnerable place at night, breaks open to let out hundreds little of white dudes, and then said "that would be a great name for my condom company?"
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Oct 16, 2015 10:47
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Hahaha. This poor historical researcher is clearly using Google Sketchup as his 3d simulator "research program", and most of the shots of his "research" have just been him panning a camera around untextured 3D models of artist's mannequins and a Trojan horse.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:50
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Poison Mushroom posted:So, working as intended? Nah, I was actually kind of hoping that at least even a static suspicion factor would play a more obviously apparent role.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:52
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It's PBS. You're
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the condom company is named such because the walls of Troy were impregnable after a ten year siege (Horse fiasco notwithstanding). It's probably a horse and not a ram because of ancient Mediterranean cultural values on gifts (you can't just say no to a gift, plus not as much history had happened yet so who would think to check inside it?? that'd be foolish). Also the idea that Greeks were what we'd call today White is probably almost certainly a Renaissance-era construction.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:58
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Allen Wren posted:Nah, I was actually kind of hoping that at least even a static suspicion factor would play a more obviously apparent role. 
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Oct 16, 2015 10:58
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anyone play 5e dnd?
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Oct 16, 2015 10:59
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bowmore posted:anyone play 5e dnd? 
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Oct 16, 2015 11:01
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EccoRaven posted:Also the idea that Greeks were what we'd call today White is probably almost certainly a Renaissance-era construction. To be fair, Italians and Irish weren't considered White until the 20th century.
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Oct 16, 2015 11:04
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bowmore posted:anyone play 5e dnd? My usual online group just finished up a test-drive of the system. It feels like D&D. Now, this is something I'd get shot for in grogs.txt, but to me, it feels like 5e is a little easier to divorce from map-based combat than 4e, since my group is generally willing to play things narratively and 5e doesn't seem to rely on map control and target-movement effects as much as 4 did. (this is where you go "stop fake-playing d&d and go back to your STORYGAMES" or whatever)
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Oct 16, 2015 11:12
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I don't care what you think of the system, I have to make a 3rd level character and it's just 
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Oct 16, 2015 11:26
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EccoRaven posted:the condom company is named such because the walls of Troy were impregnable after a ten year siege (Horse fiasco notwithstanding).
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I heard the horse didn't have a whole army, just a large enough force to get the gates open from the inside. No idea where I heard that though.
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Oct 16, 2015 11:52
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Still need a replacement for cyoalignment mafia. Still on day 2.
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Little Mac posted:Still need a replacement for cyoalignment mafia. Still on day 2.
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bowmore posted:anyone play 5e dnd? Yep.
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Oct 16, 2015 13:09
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i own all the 5e books and they're sitting on my bookshelf gathering dust
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Oct 16, 2015 13:16
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BATTLE OF PIZZA, KEANE Cubs vs. Mets
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Man I am way better at fake mafia than real mafia.
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Dungeon World is superior to any edition of D&D.
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TMMadman posted:Scooby Dooby Do, where are you? Reminder: My game needs 6 more people to sign up and it can start whenever I get home from work today if it fills up. There will be no weekend deadlines! And best of all, you won't have to argue against me during the game!
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Lumpen posted:Dungeon World is superior to any edition of D&D. - A person of note vocally agrees with your statement. - No one thinks less of you or argues with you. - The thread does not derail.
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Poison Mushroom posted:When you make a statement about Dungeon World's quality in a thread, roll +CHA. On a 10+, choose 2. On a 7-9, choose 1. On a 6 or less, the GM chooses one. i laughed
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Poison Mushroom posted:When you make a statement about Dungeon World's quality in a thread, roll +CHA. On a 10+, choose 2. On a 7-9, choose 1. On a 6 or less, the GM chooses one.
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allen wren your stuff is cool as hell
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Mafia thread it's Friday and tonight will be the first night all week where I literally can do nothing whatsoever
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Podima posted:Mafia thread it's Friday and tonight will be the first night all week where I literally can do nothing whatsoever
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Captain Foo posted:allen wren your stuff is cool as hell
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Allen, one question: Why does Klugar get hung on D6 when the Cop survives to D5? At that point, any cop certainly would have claimed and given his investigation results that Klugar, Punt and Birdstrike have all been investigated as town. It seems like D6 should have been a slam dunk against BK the only uninvestigated player.
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TMMadman posted:Allen, one question: Why does Klugar get hung on D6 when the Cop survives to D5? At that point, any cop certainly would have claimed and given his investigation results that Klugar, Punt and Birdstrike have all been investigated as town. It seems like D6 should have been a slam dunk against BK the only uninvestigated player.
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