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Autonomous Monster posted:
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Tuskin38 posted:what is Switzerland doing. Switzerland is doing Switzerland, bitch.
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Oct 15, 2015 12:52
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Vive le citoyens milice!
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Oct 15, 2015 12:58
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I think they've missed a trick by not taking Austrian Tyrol. ~~~Republic of the Alps~~~
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Autonomous Monster posted:
The confusing universe where Australia borders Austria!
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Oct 15, 2015 13:58
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Looks like the next EU4 expansion is The Cossacks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGWWB3OH3uQ quote:Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!
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Oct 15, 2015 15:45
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That's strangely specific.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Looks like the next EU4 expansion is The Cossacks: Aha! Now we can truly remove kebab!
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Oct 15, 2015 16:06
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I like the bits of Australia in the Great Denmark map.
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Oct 15, 2015 16:17
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GSD posted:I like the bits of Australia in the Great Denmark map. AUSTRALIA DEMANDS - DANZIG OR WAR!
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Oct 15, 2015 16:29
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Fintilgin posted:AUSTRALIA DEMANDS - DANZIG OR WAR, MATE!
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Oct 15, 2015 16:31
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My favorite part of that map is 'Czecho'slovakia.
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Oct 15, 2015 16:34
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Heh, guess who's got the job to code the V3 economy
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RIP Wiz
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Oct 15, 2015 23:06
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This happens to me every time I think "I bet that legacy operations portal we've got doesn't really need 2800 lines of code in its main controller."
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Ghetto Prince posted:Sorry for derailing anime chat, but are there any other really excellent grand strategy games? EU4 is just about perfect , but you can only play through the default map so many times before it starts to get annoying, and I'm looking for something new.
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Dibujante posted:This happens to me every time I think "I bet that legacy operations portal we've got doesn't really need 2800 lines of code in its main controller." Heh, v2 economy code is more like 4k lines or so not counting scripts, but its difficult soul crushing code. New HOI diary: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-29th-development-diary-16th-of-october-2015.887017/ podcat fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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Oct 16, 2015 13:52
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podcat posted:New HOI diary: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-29th-development-diary-16th-of-october-2015.887017/
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They seem to be more mad about we are saying that democracies are not rear end holes when we are in fact just saying that Democracies didn't declare war on other Democracies. They were totally rear end holes though.
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Oct 16, 2015 16:12
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A Buttery Pastry posted:People are really mad about the whole democracies can't declare war on democracies thing. Well obviously if you do something like that then how will you model Britian and France's utterly unjustified assault upon the peaceful fascist democracy of Germany?
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Oct 16, 2015 16:15
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Groogy posted:They seem to be more mad about we are saying that democracies are not rear end holes when we are in fact just saying that Democracies didn't declare war on other Democracies. They were totally rear end holes though. Can I use Canada's technical status as a monarchy to invade them as the USA?
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Oct 16, 2015 16:21
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Groogy posted:They seem to be more mad about we are saying that democracies are not rear end holes when we are in fact just saying that Democracies didn't declare war on other Democracies. They were totally rear end holes though. The UK declared war on Finland 
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Oct 16, 2015 16:34
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meatbag posted:The UK declared war on Finland UK declares war on Finland as they were allied with the Soviet Union, and as far as I know that is the only time in modern history that a democracy has declared war on another democracy. And no, One Party Democracies does not count. Needless to say it does not set a norm.
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If there ever was a WWI thing added on to HOI4, be it as a mod or as DLC in the far distant future, would Imperial Germany count as a democracy or autocracy? Now I'm just wondering how far back you'd have to move the start date to get to a democracy-on-democracy war and am failing miserably at recalling history.
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Oct 16, 2015 16:43
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I think it's a good mechanic, it fits the period and it opens up some clever gambits like liberalizing your country right after you take a bunch of territory to keep the allies off your back.
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Oct 16, 2015 16:45
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Groogy posted:UK declares war on Finland as they were allied with the Soviet Union, and as far as I know that is the only time in modern history that a democracy has declared war on another democracy. And no, One Party Democracies does not count. I'm going to be a pedant, but I think you mean Finland was at war with the Soviet Union and allied with Nazi Germany as a consequence.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:People are really mad about the whole democracies can't declare war on democracies thing. quote:But there is a problem here: Great Britain tried to invade Norway during WW2, even tough both were democracies. Germany simply was faster. How can situations like that ever work in the game?
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Oct 16, 2015 16:48
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I'm weirdly excited for the France dev diary next week. I kind of want my first HoI IV game to be a successful defense of France, although I'm horrible at games so it probably won't go very well.
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Oct 16, 2015 16:49
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Well we could always look at the List of Wars Between Democracies to see. They're rare and not huge conflicts, but they do occur.
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Ofaloaf posted:If there ever was a WWI thing added on to HOI4, be it as a mod or as DLC in the far distant future, would Imperial Germany count as a democracy or autocracy? Now I'm just wondering how far back you'd have to move the start date to get to a democracy-on-democracy war and am failing miserably at recalling history. DrSunshine posted:Well we could always look at the List of Wars Between Democracies to see. They're rare and not huge conflicts, but they do occur.
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I feel like democracy on democracy conflict should be allowed, but have a lot of difficult/expensive requirements. Basically let people go full ahistorical if they want and have the UK invade the US and take back the colonies of the players really want to, but make it something that's not really reasonable to do in a more normal game.
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podcat posted:Heh, v2 economy code is more like 4k lines or so not counting scripts, but its difficult soul crushing code. You should publish it so some train fanatic can decipher and rewrite it.
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sarmhan posted:My first real spit take was at: Isn't this actually accurate, though? At the very least it was in the advanced planning stages. Maybe I'm remembering wrong. I'm fine with the mechanic, for the most part, and I expect HoI4 to be as moddable as EU4 or CK2 anyways so it's hard to get upset about relatively minor game design decisions like this. Rincewind posted:I'm weirdly excited for the France dev diary next week. I kind of want my first HoI IV game to be a successful defense of France, although I'm horrible at games so it probably won't go very well. Yeah this was always my favorite playthrough in HoI 1 and 2. Such a challenge but so rewarding from a historical/political perspective. Leon Blum, savior of Europe, Holocaust averted, etc etc forever. Alikchi fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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Groogy posted:UK declares war on Finland as they were allied with the Soviet Union, and as far as I know that is the only time in modern history that a democracy has declared war on another democracy. And no, One Party Democracies does not count. The Mexican-American war was a big deal. Maybe you're thinking specifically of European democracies not declaring war on European democracies but that's probably due to the historical scarcity of European democracy 
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DrSunshine posted:Well we could always look at the List of Wars Between Democracies to see. They're rare and not huge conflicts, but they do occur. It lists modern day Russia as a democracy.
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DrSunshine posted:Well we could always look at the List of Wars Between Democracies to see. They're rare and not huge conflicts, but they do occur. Filipino civilians dead: 250,000-1,000,000[11][12][13] rip in peace to those whom died
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Dibujante posted:The Mexican-American war was a big deal. Maybe you're thinking specifically of European democracies not declaring war on European democracies but that's probably due to the historical scarcity of European democracy
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Oct 16, 2015 18:06
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Wow, so someone seriously just posted a long rant in the new dev diary about how the U.S. congress is all a big money-murder conspiracy, complete with a video of some guy in a sweater sitting in front of a bunch of bookshelves so that he looks smarter, and how an anarchic government would totally solve all problems but those conspiring fat cats don't want you to know that because then they'd have to give up twirling their mustaches. I was gonna copy and paste it... but Had a Dad
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unwantedplatypus posted:It lists modern day Russia as a democracy. It also apparently considers the Syrian Civil War as a war between the United States and Russia.
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IDK, I'm fine with it being a rule in the game, but I'd rather it not be hard-coded into lua or deeper in the codebase, since I could see alt-history modders wanting that option. And even if the solution is to change one country to a dictatorship, that could be an annoyance in a few different ways. But also from a historical perspective, I don't think there are really all that many examples of fascist dictatorships declaring war on each other, or communist states doing it, within the game period?
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