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D_Smart posted:In a word. You're hosed. But you already knew that. Did you read the second message I sent you? The one about movies being (not) produced?
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Amarcarts posted:That referral thing is backfiring hard but a lot of people don't realize it yet. How?
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hey an upstart company that has existed for only 2-3 years definitely needs 4 worldwide studios alright
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AP posted:I only skipped through part of it but that long interview with Jared really shows how far out out of his depth he is. He decides on a good line and then repeats it three times, slowly as if adding extra emphasis to something that really wasn't that clever to begin with will serve in place of saying anything else. He's either really dim or scared shitless of saying the wrong thing. I almost never read or listen to anything official from SC unless it is filtered through here first. But you got me curious, and I read this: http://imperialnews.network/2015/06/meet-the-devs-disco-lando/ Is he always a massive rear end in a top hat to his co-workers? Or is that part of his schtick? Yes the guy that was picking up trash a month ago would def. get a world series ring
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Amarcarts posted:That referral thing is backfiring hard but a lot of people don't realize it yet. I dunno, the funding figures are good but it's all sure to be encouraging people to spend more than they would have during a normal LTI sale, some will be funding extra accounts + lti CCU's. A lot of the faithful are going to be tapped out in the run up to Christmas, just hope that not many of them have kids.
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Dante80 posted:Continuing on with our discussion about spaceships in space, here is how to make Keftedakia Tiganita (Κεφτεδάκια Τηγανιτά)! Aww gently caress, all I'm getting is gibberish. I never received my new codebook. Can anyone hook me up?
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:03 |
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Amarcarts posted:I wonder why nobody mentions the fact that it's a little weird to have like 4-6 different companies in 3+ countries to make a videogame. I am way more surprised that a $90m company just flat-out ignored their obligation to file reports with Companies House in the UK. I cannot think of any good reason not to do that unless: a) you don't have accounting records of any kind, or b) you are planning to screw over your investors/generous redditors Frankly, Bootcha, you should have been making frantic all-caps posts four months ago when they weren't posted by the due date, because this is some shady poo poo.
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XK posted:Aww gently caress, all I'm getting is gibberish. I never received my new codebook. Can anyone hook me up? grandmas secret recipe
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Sappo569 posted:I almost never read or listen to anything official from SC unless it is filtered through here first. Wow. Lando sounds like he's a gigantic twat.
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:06 |
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Alchenar posted:If anyone's wondering what to do with their refund money, the Battletech kickstarter just passed the goal for a dynamic campaign. kickstarter posted:STAGE 1 (Internally funded by Harebrained Schemes): A turn-based tactical skirmish game - command a Lance of 4 'Mechs & MechWarriors against AI opponents across a variety of battlefields. TotallyNotSeraph85 fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Oct 18, 2015 |
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D_Smart posted:Simon Elms (the guy with the goatee in the CitCon 2015 presentation), Nick Elms, Erin Roberts, Chris Roberts are all lifelong friends. So its possible bootcha has essentially invested into star citizen but indirectly the Swedish mafia? Lol
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:09 |
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XK posted:Aww gently caress, all I'm getting is gibberish. I never received my new codebook. Can anyone hook me up? PMed. And next time remember your XDCC lists in the IRC room.
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TotallyNotSeraph85 posted:Hey this looks awesome, thanks for the tip. Backed for tactical PvP goodness. Reminder that the lesson from all this isn't 'don't kickstart', it's 'don't kickstart wildly ambitious projects with unrealistic funding/delivery goals run by people with a track record of overspending and failing to deliver'.
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Eonwe posted:
Where have you been the last 500 pages? Jeez ! Some people just don't want to put in the effort of reading 300+ posts a day
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Suspicions confirmed, in that JP interview with the Frankfurt team they said the planets were just very very large textured spheres. Go figure. I would love to see a Truman Show-eqsue video where someone tries to fly into the gas giant only to smack into a solid textured object.
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Sappo569 posted:Where have you been the last 500 pages? Jeez ! Yeah, this was like from two weeks ago. It's where the whole "Swedish Meatball" meme came from.
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Eonwe posted:
No. There is no evidence, nor the implication that the Upsala Mafia have anything to do with Foundry 42. This has more to do with that quartet and their history.
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Nomenclature posted:Interestingly, daily funding looks like it has stabilized at $100,000 to $150,000 per day now that CIG has opened up the CCUs to all purchasable ships. I'm pretty surprised, considering that pretty much everyone seems to be expecting an anniversary sale next month. I'm gonna say this is the bare minimum they need to not be considered 'hemorrhaging' money. At $72/hr/FTE (a guess for these guys, full average including CR et al) and 251 staff they're looking at ~$144k per working day. Just staff, at the current level. I'd like to understand a little bit more about what they've already spent so I can try to calculate the number of days they have left. If they hadn't spent anything of the $93m up until today they'd have around 2,000 days of staff operation. If they've spent all but $10m they've got 220 days of staff left. If you factor in costs of hardware, software licenses, premises etc. then the $72/hr roughly doubles to $144/hr worked and they've got 110 days left with $10m. Do they have $10m left? My gut tells me, not quite, considering the outlandish expenses on Hollywood stars, performance capture and the multiple locations of development.
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:17 |
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D_Smart posted:Simon Elms (the guy with the goatee in the CitCon 2015 presentation), Nick Elms, Erin Roberts, Chris Roberts are all lifelong friends. Derek, the only way to collapse the grey market is to interfere with supply and demand. How exactly do you intend to do that?
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D_Smart posted:No. There is no evidence, nor the implication that the Upsala Mafia have anything to do with Foundry 42. This has more to do with that quartet and their history. Derek has a good point though, as the Mafia connection is hilarious to even consider But what other business would you even THINK about giving money to, if their board of directors was basically a police line-up of people past associated with corporate fraud and embezzlement ? Why CIG get's away with it because they pretend to make video games blows my mind
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Sappo569 posted:Derek has a good point though, as the Mafia connection is hilarious to even consider Exactly.
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:22 |
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I have a large stockpile of tinfoil for sale, and I think this might be the best place to offload it. Please let me know how much you are interested in purchasing, along with your best price per tonne.
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What happens is that someone wants the referral rewards. They then create several dummy accounts and buy a package on each using the referral code of their main account. Once created, the goods are gifted over to the main account, where the ships are melted and they buy a Sabre or something, or sell the credits off at 80%.
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Dante80 posted:PMed. And next time remember your XDCC lists in the IRC room. Sorry guys. I just lost a hard drive and my contact lists were on it.
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The Marauder posted:I have a large stockpile of tinfoil for sale, and I think this might be the best place to offload it. Please let me know how much you are interested in purchasing, along with your best price per tonne. We have no use for actual tinfoil, now if you had a picture of some tinfoil we could talk business.
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Eonwe posted:
And to be clear, that's "drop a huge hunk of money into the project through venture capital channels and being owed a share of the profits" investing, not "bought a jpeg of a ship for the last game you'll even need to play" 'investing'. As for the referral program, as least some citizens have decided that Bitcoin-style evangelism is the way to build a referral network, which is going to backfire like all get out.
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Star Citizen TOS (08/29/13) Becomes Effective
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:29 |
XK posted:Aww gently caress, all I'm getting is gibberish. I never received my new codebook. Can anyone hook me up? http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=212 Check the Smartest room. post couple introductions to get into the club or buy a platinum to make it visible without invitation
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Jethro_E7 posted:What happens is that someone wants the referral rewards. They then create several dummy accounts and buy a package on each using the referral code of their main account. Once created, the goods are gifted over to the main account, where the ships are melted and they buy a Sabre or something, or sell the credits off at 80%. I must be thick, how is that 'backfiring' if suckers are buying packages on dummy alt accounts and gifting them to themselves? From Crobert's point of view it works out the same either way, correct? I mean it's still cash coming in, so who cares if it's not actually new people. As long as someone is paying for the coke and pube trimmers who gives a poo poo. AP posted:As we're all pretty much aware that whales have several accounts each and CIG still claimed 1 million citizens while knowing it was bollocks. I don't think it's going to bother CIG at all. It was pretty hilarious when someone in chat pointed out there was only like 25,000 people actually watching the stream of CitCon. I guess the other 975,000 Citizens were too busy. KiddieGrinder fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Oct 18, 2015 |
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Jethro_E7 posted:What happens is that someone wants the referral rewards. They then create several dummy accounts and buy a package on each using the referral code of their main account. Once created, the goods are gifted over to the main account, where the ships are melted and they buy a Sabre or something, or sell the credits off at 80%. That's clever but it's still just sucking more money from current backers, from CIG's point of view it's more money and they can claim more backers (while knowing the backer number increase isn't real in part). As we're all pretty much aware that whales have several accounts each and CIG still claimed 1 million citizens while knowing it was bollocks. I don't think it's going to bother CIG at all. Kinda amusing that they won't be able to get refunds on those accounts though, so not that clever.
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The CCU system is going to be the death knell, because at some point everyone will have upgraded to whatever they feel comfortable and the flow of cash will dramatically slow down. They need to lure in more suckers, because the milk in the udders of the current suckers are going to run dry even faster now. Just look at CIG's marketing: Sure they have video card bundle deals and fly free weekends, but I would say most of their marketing is oriented at squeezing more money out of current backers. This is completely unsustainable in the long run.
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:33 |
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A lot of people don't believe you will actually take court action. So this is a certain thing that you intend to do?
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:34 |
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Jethro_E7 posted:What happens is that someone wants the referral rewards. They then create several dummy accounts and buy a package on each using the referral code of their main account. Once created, the goods are gifted over to the main account, where the ships are melted and they buy a Sabre or something, or sell the credits off at 80%. Are these rewards only available via referral? Wait why am I asking, of course... otherwise they'd simply be throwing money at the screen for them So how long do we give CIG until they include at the bottom of the referral page * Now also available for purchase in the store I figured they wanted to use that to boost past 1 million Shitizens, so now their primary goal will be fleecing the new flock
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:34 |
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AP posted:That's clever but it's still just sucking more money from current backers, from CIG's point of view it's more money and they can claim more backers (while knowing the backer number increase isn't real in part). CIG management is morally corrupt. They don't give a gently caress if dummies set up dummy accounts, lose their life savings, or a marriage is ruined for their game, so long as those nerds keep giving them money.
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TotallyNotSeraph85 posted:A presumably grown man making fun of someone presumably less privileged than himself in what is Is that the real reason you don't have a car and pretend to like pedaling everywhere?
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:36 |
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Really they should create 25 sub-accounts for the referral bonus, then ask for refunds on the 25 accounts once they have their golden idol. Except doing that would be
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# ? Oct 18, 2015 21:37 |
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BluestreakBTHR posted:CIG management is morally corrupt. They don't give a gently caress if dummies set up dummy accounts, lose their life savings, or a marriage is ruined for their game, so long as those nerds keep giving them money. Yes, quite.
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Sappo569 posted:Are these rewards only available via referral? Look at those reddit threads about dudes trying to use their referral codes- at best, nobody shows interest, and at worst, they get called out for trying to get them to join a scam/cult. I really think most people who are ever going to be interested in SC are already in on it, and the rest see it for what it is. Derek, please follow through with your legal threats, reading about how people forgo FOOD to be able to stare at their .obj is kinda nauseating.
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Ash1138 posted:No seriously how are they not being hosed by a government entity for implying that digital goods could be out of stock? Lol what? There's an unhealthy reliance on beaurocracy itt.
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