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King Burgundy posted:Am I the only one that sees Ecco praising someone for essentially the same post? I mean, his had more words than mine, but the gist was the same, no? Is this where the whole suspicion train on Ecco started? Cause I don't see how your scumtell post was the same as Fox's at all. I mean, I didn't really read it as fake or anything but it didn't have the same level of self-awareness that Fox showed.
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King Burgundy posted:rofl. You couldn't be more transparent in your attempts to misread my words and intention. Sorry you rolled scum. I know you like Keane and wouldn't have chosen this for yourself. This is unusually aggressive from KB. I think the only other times I've seen him like this are when I was purposefully winding him up and I don't see Ecco's comments as inspiring that same level of vindictiveness..
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Oct 19, 2015 13:58
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Rarity posted:This is unusually aggressive from KB. I think the only other times I've seen him like this are when I was purposefully winding him up and I don't see Ecco's comments as inspiring that same level of vindictiveness.. Extra thought, he's also reached the same level right at the start of D1 rather than in the few days it's taken me to piss him off. I'm just not seeing the emotion in that post as genuine at all.
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Oct 19, 2015 13:59
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merk posted:I think this is very wrong. I usually lead lynches as scum. You also lead lynches as town, it's a null tell.
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Oct 19, 2015 14:04
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EccoRaven posted:time for another ecco breadcrumb (everyone should breadcrumb all the time) Ecco did you pass out on your keyboard is everything ok? 
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Oct 19, 2015 14:06
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EccoRaven posted:nah. I'm finding all the heat on Ecco for this cypher thing to be interesting. My take is that Ecco likes to experiment with the way mafia is played so this is the kind of thing I can see her testing just to see what would happen. I think that if we get an eventual claim out of her she also needs to post the cypher so we can see that it wasn't bullshit.
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Oct 19, 2015 14:13
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This is why I generally don't worry about Rarity being a lurker. Sure sometimes she gets busy, but she always does a lot of flurry posting. It sometimes has a whiplash type effect because the way she reads/posts and sometimes it irritates me (ljtrigirl does the same sort of thing) due to the effect, but it's not indicative of alignment. Also happy 30th Rarity, one thing old people don't tell young people is that your 30s will be better than your 20s. 
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Oct 19, 2015 14:20
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Opopanax posted:Hey, some of us are just really scummy regardless of alignment Maybe you should try to actually play mafia then 
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Oct 19, 2015 14:23
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merk posted:I voted you because your attempt to spark content went nowhere and you made no attempt to make it go anywhere but nowhere. Disagree. If nothing else it's provoked a bunch of posts from KB that I don't think people have looked at enough and Ecco tried to develop that until the heat on her put her into defensive mode. I don't like how you're misrepresenting that whole chain of events.
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Oct 19, 2015 14:27
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King Burgundy posted:Wow, you are still doing it. You minimize anything I say and pretend other things are happening with every one of your posts. It was NOT just your use of the word perfect. I did NOT say I have no scumtells. I said I didn't know of any. Do you not understand how those are two different things? I'm pretty sure you DO understand that, and this is just your scum strategy. I then proceeded to mention the one thing I know I occasionally do differently as scum. None of the words you are ascribing to me are words I am saying. Here, let me show you what it looks like when someone says they have no scum tells: Oh boy I really don't like this. KB's taking Ecco's quote about having no scumtells out of context. Just to remind everyone the full quote is this: EccoRaven posted:unfortunately I have no scumtells, so And yes, I realise that KB is not explicitly using that quote to claim that Ecco is scum but what he is doing is trying to paint Ecco in a way that looks far more thoughtless and hypocritical than she was actually being.
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Oct 19, 2015 14:40
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bowmore posted:I kind of agree with Burgundy It might just be my distrust of KB but I don't like this.
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Oct 19, 2015 14:46
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TMMadman posted:And I just don't know how she gets to that conclusion because it seems forced and deliberately misleading. I felt KB was being honest with his original answer. I've played with KB when he was town and scum and he really does try to play the same way regardless of his alignment. I've called him scum when he's town and I've called him town when he's scum. I don't read his original answer as saying "I'm perfect a player", I read it as him saying "I try to stay consistent with my actions regardless of my alignment" and combined with Asiina making a very valid point that KBs cases are better when he's town, it just reads like Ecco is trying to push a bad case. Can you explain how KB's plan of 'playing the same way as scum as when town' is any different to what everybody does? All KB's doing is saying 'yeah I try to play mafia'
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Oct 19, 2015 15:09
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TheNabster posted:Could have sworn there are more people in this thread then Ecco and people pointing fingers at Ecco, where's everyone else at? A D1 lurker call out?  You know, if you're not feeling all the discussion about Ecco you could have just talked about something else instead of making this post.
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Oct 19, 2015 15:23
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Rarity posted:You also lead lynches as town, it's a null tell. Right, it's why I commented on the post. It is so wrong that it's concerning.
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Oct 19, 2015 15:28
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TMMadman posted:But I'm not really focused on your meta. My main issue with you is that you keep pushing a BK case that I think is garbage. And when combined you calling someone town based from what amounts to a single post is just too much for me right now. It just feels suspicious and scummy. However, I will ##unvote for now though because it's double plurality and we should be looking at more than just one or two people, but I'd still be willing to vote for you. I feel like TM is approaching the game from a town perspective, even though I don't really agree with his reads. His thoughts have an openness to them of a player that's just starting to really understand mafia and it reads like that awareness is coming through without being distorted through a scum filter.
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Oct 19, 2015 15:33
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FoxTerrier posted:—I have no idea what the drama between Merk and Guisseppe is but I strongly suspect it's dumb. I'm just glad that D1 hasn't turned into a non-stop slapfight between the two of them like the last one I played with them (Pearl?)
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Oct 19, 2015 15:36
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Verr posted:here's what people have said about fighting: I like this post, Verr's approaching the game from a different direction and I like the direction he's coming from.
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Oct 19, 2015 15:40
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CapitalistPig posted:What is even going on why is everyone so serious. Ughhhh
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Oct 19, 2015 15:41
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Verr posted:that's fair, but i'm definitely making that vote based on posting. and rolefishy is definitely what i was going for. we need to know who to send into the fight. right? Rolefishing is bad because it leads to town outting PRs for no reason. You just need to look at Mad Max where a bunch of newbies outted their doctor cause of good intentioned role fishing (the doctor was me and I was SO MAD that game)
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Oct 19, 2015 15:45
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Rarity posted:This is unusually aggressive from KB. I think the only other times I've seen him like this are when I was purposefully winding him up and I don't see Ecco's comments as inspiring that same level of vindictiveness.. Amusingly, I did think to myself that the way Ecco was playing was reminiscent of your scum game. It's the same thing I've seen you do as scum several times. It does not surprise me to have you come into the thread and defend it.
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Oct 19, 2015 15:47
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rarity my hero *swoon*
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Oct 19, 2015 15:49
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Ecco I'm not interested in conversing with scum ~_~ This is a really bad anti-town attitude. For starters, unless you're scum you don't know if Ecco's scum or not so being unwilling to converse leads to being close minded which leads to town making mislynches. Further, even if Ecco was scum conversing with her would produce more content that could later be used to to link to her scum buddies. Of course, you're a good enough player to know all this so my question becomes why are you trying to cut down on discussion?
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Oct 19, 2015 15:50
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merk posted:Nope. Playing mostly on a phone this weekend. Just as a heads up to people, I've seen merk pretend to be phone posting in previous games where he's scum as a way to avoid posting. mer, you got a pic of baseball tickets for me? 
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Oct 19, 2015 15:52
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TMMadman posted:And imgay just posted Verrs list in the other thread. That's not really a big deal. Anyone from Pee-Dumb's thread could have gone through this one and made the exact same list. This is not exactly secret information.
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Oct 19, 2015 15:54
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FoxTerrier posted:Out of curiosity can anyone that knows metas confirm whether or not this is true? I can confirm that Hiipfire is terrible, yes. He's starting to get better though 
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Oct 19, 2015 15:56
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Thanks rest of thread for not saying anything at all during this, so loving glad This is my favourite thing you have ever said 
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Oct 19, 2015 15:59
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EccoRaven posted:Diqnol I am sensing a lot of "damned if you do/damned if you don't" from you. the impression seems to be that it doesn't matter if I'm actually scum or not, just that I need to be punished for making a cipher. I need to die because the scum would kill me anyway (but I'm actually scum anyway so the scum wouldn't kill me). This post is a good summary of the diqnol/Ecco slapfight. Diqnol looks like he wants to lynch Ecco without caring about Ecco's alignment, that's just scummy as gently caress.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:02
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Beetphyxious posted:
Ecco is scum though because shes scum. It has nothing to do with merks case or kbs weirdness. I just know ecco is scum. FoxTerrier posted:2) CPig needs to come in and justify his vote and post more Nah TheNabster posted:Also ##vote GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE Why? ( I know ironicat whatever) Rarity posted:Ughhhh no u
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Oct 19, 2015 16:02
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Rarity posted:Extra thought, he's also reached the same level right at the start of D1 rather than in the few days it's taken me to piss him off. I'm just not seeing the emotion in that post as genuine at all. BTW my own extra thought on this is that my interactions with you have trained me to be vigilant for this kind of scum play. But fwiw you are attributing a level of emotion to my posts that isn't there. I am aggressively hunting scum but I haven't gotten emotional or flown off the handle. 
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Oct 19, 2015 16:03
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Asiina posted:I didn't even know Rarity was in this game. Rude.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:06
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TMMadman posted:I don't know, if I was scum, posting about battle stuff seems like a pretty easy out because it's not actually making judgement calls on people while still looking like you want to help. Verr said he's not a regular mafia player like the rest of us and a newbie to SA mafia. I've seen newbie players do all sorts of irregular methods of scum hunting that have got them in trouble even when it was super obvious they were town (Section 31's list of null tells, Lowell's voting non-analysis).
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Oct 19, 2015 16:10
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bowmore posted:If I was to think about it I would just assume it's because the game doesn't take a 24 hour format that you are used to bowmore who do you think is scum?
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Oct 19, 2015 16:13
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Ok I gotta go to the doctor now, I'll finish up when I get back.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:14
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Rarity posted:Can you explain how KB's plan of 'playing the same way as scum as when town' is any different to what everybody does? All KB's doing is saying 'yeah I try to play mafia' I just read KBs post in the same tone as Fox. To me, he's not saying that he doesn't have scum tells, he's just saying that he does his best to try and play the same game regardless of his alignment so other people are better judges of his scum tells. He goes on to say that he usually won't bus a scumbuddy with a powerful role but that he does bus his teammates. I think it's a pretty fair assessment of his game as I have played games with him when he's been town and scum. Overall, I think KB is a pretty good player on both sides.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:16
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I fell back asleep reading ur posts and was almost late for work 3_3
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Oct 19, 2015 16:16
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I'm sending ecco into battle so don't vote ecco.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:17
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Wth keane :/
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Oct 19, 2015 16:18
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CCKeane posted:I'm sending ecco into battle so don't vote ecco. no this is bad
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Oct 19, 2015 16:19
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EccoRaven posted:hey Verr do you have any actual opinions about the game? Because I agree with you to an extent - looking at the battle information is somewhat important - but if you do it in lieu of trying to hunt for scum, that's bad. mostly hoping to persuade CCKeane to give us some input on the battle choices. my plan doesn't work without anarchist king following through. and I have been trying to hunt, my vote on Asiina is a scum-hunt guess, but its just not based on big old effort posts. Rarity posted:Rolefishing is bad because it leads to town outting PRs for no reason. You just need to look at Mad Max where a bunch of newbies outted their doctor cause of good intentioned role fishing (the doctor was me and I was SO MAD that game) but we're not just racing the days right? we're hoping to find most of the scum with an intact army and hope we can battle down the Trojans/their scum team wins. i'd agree in a normal game, but rolefishing might be a risk worth taking in a weird format. Beetphyxious posted:i've not played a soldiers game before, so this could be a v.dumb question: do the numbers get flipped to the kings or us or whatever or is it all resolved behind the scenes? i'm desperately hoping the later. the OP mafia thread is a little unclear. at the very least we should get the list of names for competition. for example, let's say we're sketched out on GP. we say diqnol, what are your stats, you best be telling the truth 'cause we're going to stick you in the front line supported by x, y, and z. we can have a rough idea of what our numbers are, and how the combat should play out on our end. once we see who the trojans sent, we cross reference that with their thread, and get a rough approximation of how we should have done. its not bullet proof, but make more sense to me than playing word games with practiced liars.
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We aren't allowed to discuss battle specifics by rule to avoid that approach fyi
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