CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

why would lesnick post on an alt account instead of asking croberts directly?

Mukip posted:

That's interesting. Are you saying that you've verified those allegations yourself?


Yeah, it's sad that you are getting passive aggressive because I'm not taking uncorroborated allegations at face value.

Eonwe posted:

o7

Mukip posted:

Yeah, it's sad that you are getting passive aggressive because I'm not taking uncorroborated allegations at face value.

Bootcha posted:

Unfortunately while the press doesn't follow this thread, it bears repeating/quoting:

peter gabriel posted:

He doesn't want people to know where he buys his napkins is my guess

cl_gibcount 9999 posted:

the shirt is the napkin

cl_gibcount 9999 posted:

<------- Derek's Dumby

CrazyLoon posted:

It really does make me wish so hard for someone recording on their phone and leaking, like, a snippet of Sandi cursing and screaming (preferably with ineffectually trying to brown nose to her and calm her down in the background, just so that the whales have an even harder time of screaming that it's all faked/staged).

Something like that gets out even once and I assume Sandi will quit for real, and not just do a fake attention whore on stage about it.

EDIT: And ofc, the obligatory remix made of this recording afterwards in this vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTihsJQHt48

pftc posted:

A previous Star Citizen thread was 905 pages, and it started June 2014 and ended August 2015
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3639730&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3639730&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=905

This Star Citizen thread is 703(+) pages and started September 29th
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3744337

It's a big thread.

Wulfling posted:

The whole reason they moved out there was Sandi wants to try and use the game to jump start her movie career.

The part of LA they are in, is in fact the most expensive part of LA period. So they're literally pissing away money on their desperate attempts to get back into the movie business.

OhDearGodNo posted:

Apparently there is a video out, and is was sent to the writer who did the piece for The Escapist.

CrazyLoon posted:

But yea...until it winds up on the internet...who the hell knows how true that is, or how much they just threw that in during their podcast as "things we couldn't use, but TOTALLY do have" for extra clickbait attention.

quote:

Video evidence was sent by a source, but was not used because we felt it was ambiguous and could not be properly verified. If and when we get verifiable documentation to support the allegations, that will be published.

OhDearGodNo posted:

It wasn't in the podcast, it was described first in when they wrote about vetting the sources:


It wasn't really pushed- just a snippet buried near the end of the article.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/14727-The-Escapist-Explains-Its-Star-Citizen-Sources-Vetting-and-Respo

D_Smart posted:

Yes. This is precisely what my sources have told me as well.

peter gabriel posted:

I love you

Ravane posted:

It's been 24 days since this thread started. At 703 pages, it's on average 30 pages per day. So 750 1200 posts per day. That's about all the math I'm doing.

pftc posted:

A previous Star Citizen thread was 905 pages, and it started June 2014 and ended August 2015
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3639730&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3639730&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=905

This Star Citizen thread is 703(+) pages and started September 29th
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3744337

It's a big thread.

Klyith posted:

whooooo cares this is laugh at CIG thread, not the definitively prove corporate mismanagement with corroborated on the record video testimony thread

Sushi in Yiddish posted:

Mukip posted:

Yeah, well that's some bullshit. It's disingenious how they push this "verified but not really" angle. They aren't confident in their sources but they went to publication anyway. Until we hear something solid about it the shoddy behavior of the Escapist casts doubt on everything.

Chocobo posted:

There is another early Star Citizen thread out there, it was also gassed. Can't find it.

Man, read that first thread. Look at how loving excited we all were. Look at us goading eachother into buying more.

We believed. How loving stupid are we?

Mukip posted:

Yeah, well that's some bullshit. It's disingenious how they push this "verified but not really" angle. They aren't confident in their sources but they went to publication anyway. Until we hear something solid about it the shoddy behavior of the Escapist casts doubt on everything.

G0RF posted:

Bootcha is a private investor in CIG- with closer connections to the company and a longer history with the company founders. He formerly expressed uncertainty about the allegations (hundreds of pages and maybe a thread ago). The fact that he researched and now expresses concerns about the allegations of toxic misbehavior in upper management means that there really might be fire, and it really may be time for Space Court.

G0RF posted:

Bootcha is a private investor in CIG- with closer connections to the company and a longer history with the company founders. He formerly expressed uncertainty about the allegations (hundreds of pages and maybe a thread ago). The fact that he researched and now expresses concerns about the allegations of toxic misbehavior in upper management means that there really might be fire, and it really may be time for Space Court.

Mukip posted:

Yeah, well that's some bullshit. It's disingenious how they push this "verified but not really" angle. They aren't confident in their sources but they went to publication anyway. Until we hear something solid about it the shoddy behavior of the Escapist casts doubt on everything.

Agrajag posted:

so this is about ethics in games journalism?

T.G. Xarbala posted:

There used to be a time where threads on SA were as enthusiastic about SC as the RSI forums still are.

We made fun of them, too.

Mukip posted:

If Bootcha can bring on the drama bombs then more power to him. But that doesn't make the Escapist look any better.

Mukip posted:

I am the cultist shill gamergater.

Sushi in Yiddish posted:

Yeah, I remember reading a tiny bit of the older threads back in the day and thinking "wow it'll be awesome when this comes out!!"

There's an article on The Mittani with a point/counterpoint debate and it's interesting how goon opinion on the game has changed, and how the doubt was already there.

It's a real crime (besides the actual scamming) that Chris Roberts made bank on a generation of hopeful people who just wanted a modern day MMO Freelancer and poo poo it down the drain

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Like are you literally only interested in the Escapist allegations?

Because we've moved on past that to make fun of other things now.

Chocobo posted:

There is another early Star Citizen thread out there, it was also gassed. Can't find it.

Man, read that first thread. Look at how loving excited we all were. Look at us goading eachother into buying more.

We believed. How loving stupid are we?

Ravane posted:

Yeah, I got insulted a bunch for only spending 30bux. Hahahaha.

Ravane posted:

Yeah, I got insulted a bunch for only spending 30bux. Hahahaha.

Sarsapariller posted:

I feel so bad for the token african americans Sandi is dragging into this. They are trotting those two out at every opportunity and as far as I know neither is really involved with the game at any level- one's like a video producer and the other is a property manager for their office. I wonder if they know why this woman is suddenly insisting that they get in front of the camera every week? It's disgusting. It is literally the second most racist reaction you could have after being accused of racism. "No I'm not racist! Black person, you are now my accessory and shield against these claims!"