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Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.
Relieved we have Nigel Owen reffing the final, Garces was terrible. Only interested in reffing one side all game. poo poo game but oh well job done.

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butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


After the loss to the Brave Blossoms bowing out in the semis to the ABs is still a reasonably good showing.

Here's hoping for some more exciting rugby tomorrow and next week.

Best World Cup :unsmith:

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

:scotland:

butros posted:

After the loss to the Brave Blossoms bowing out in the semis to the ABs is still a reasonably good showing.

Here's hoping for some more exciting rugby tomorrow and next week.

Best World Cup :unsmith:

the "bronze final" against Australia should be a better game ;)

puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~

Vaders Jester posted:

the "bronze final" against Australia should be a better game ;)

Very nice I like

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010
Imo Australia will win but that's just my opinion as an Australian.

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

:scotland:

ColtMcAsskick posted:

Imo Australia will win but that's just my opinion as an Australian.

I know but I'd like to see the Pumas win a WC and not just because Australia pumped us in the QF.

Mister Chief
Jun 6, 2011

Relieved.

Chocolate Milk
May 7, 2008

More tea, Wesley?
Thought I might go back to sleep after watching the game. Yeah, not a chance.

emjayo
Apr 11, 2013

That jaapie midfield is going to be something special in the next few years.

HappyCamperGL
May 18, 2014

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/priestland-takes-break-from-wales/

:(

Dual Monarchy
Feb 20, 2013

Vaders Jester posted:

I know but I'd like to see the Pumas win a WC and not just because Australia pumped us in the QF.

Seconding this if only because I really would like to see a first time win of the WC :(

puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~

Dual Monarchy posted:

Seconding this if only because I really would like to see a first time win of the WC :(

Funny how no one said this in 2003

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Dekaar posted:

First try was a forward pass too.

Yea there's a lot of super basic stuff like that getting missed. I don't think Habana was onside for any of the kicks that got put up that he chased either, so I'm not sure what the TJs are even doing on the sidelines at the moment.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo
If you want match officials who actually care about forward passes you could try watching League?

Woden
May 6, 2006

El Pollo Blanco posted:

If you want match officials who actually care about forward passes you could try watching League?

But in League every time the ball hits the ground it's a knock on.

Dog Friday
Feb 22, 2006

emjayo posted:

That jaapie midfield is going to be something special in the next few years.

Yes they looked very dangerous in the first quarter of the game... It's a shame they aren't given more chance to attack.

HappyCamperGL
May 18, 2014

The pass wasn't forward. You can see clearly from the aerial view that starts at 0:36 that it is flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23BW_hjQEs

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Should have played the entire tournament in roofless stadiums in November.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:

El Pollo Blanco posted:

If you want match officials who actually care about forward passes you could try watching League?

They do not, they only call 1/2 the forward passes at best.

Also that penalty against Habana hitting Milner-Skudder in the back was bullshit. M-S stepped in front of Habana intentionally and Habana could literally not do anything else but run into him.

I mean maybe that is a penalty in laws-as-written, but you shouldn't be able to turn a fair contest for a loose ball into a penalty for your side by doing that.

Dog Friday
Feb 22, 2006
The ref was a non-issue in this game... Pass wasn't forward and none of the penalty calls were scandalous.

The Springboks are clearly a decent team but they need to develop their attack if they want to start winning with greater consistency. Also their uncharacteristically shaky line-out and kicking out of hand put themselves under pressure. Credit must be given for putting in a admirable World Cup effort after that shocking start.

All Blacks's applied all the pressure in this game and were full credit for the win. It was not as flashy as last week's but they controlled large sections of the game well and lived in the SA half of the field. Solid victory really.

The sportsmanship shown by SBW on Jessie Kriel was amazing to see too.

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
So what everybody means is Garces is crap?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
I'm not fond of his interpretations of when advantage is over, and I think he plays his hand a bit too early in the game, but he's not garbage.

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot

goatface posted:

I'm not fond of his interpretations of when advantage is over, and I think he plays his hand a bit too early in the game, but he's not garbage.

Is that the same as he deserved to do a semi -final?

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:

rejutka posted:

Is that the same as he deserved to do a semi -final?

Every ref is terrible and the rules don't make sense. That is why I love this sport.

So yes.

Unimpressed
Feb 13, 2013

Just watched this game.

Not often you can say this after a SA-NZ game, but...

Two bad teams.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf
It seems some people on Twitter were using the hashtag #AllBlacksMustFall without fully thinking it through

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
#AllBlackTriesMatter

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





NZAmoeba posted:

It seems some people on Twitter were using the hashtag #AllBlacksMustFall without fully thinking it through

Bet them racist-rear end pricks knew exactly what they were doing.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

The Rabbi T. White posted:

Bet them racist-rear end pricks knew exactly what they were doing.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MbalulaFikile/status/657934488555667456

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Last week after watching NZ/FR, I felt a bit of relief that Wales didn't have to face that monster of a team... without seeing the game and just going by reactions, there's a chance we might not have been absolutely killed out there? That kinda hurts.

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
The Bokke did not bother with this difficult concept you call At Tack Ing. The All Blacks were peripatetic, like usual in a World Cup and, like usual, got away with it.

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

Apollodorus posted:

They do not, they only call 1/2 the forward passes at best.

Also that penalty against Habana hitting Milner-Skudder in the back was bullshit. M-S stepped in front of Habana intentionally and Habana could literally not do anything else but run into him.

I mean maybe that is a penalty in laws-as-written, but you shouldn't be able to turn a fair contest for a loose ball into a penalty for your side by doing that.

Hahaha what? Milner-Skudder outpaced Habana who then conveniently stumbled into him to ensure Milner-Skudder wouldn't get to the ball. Clear as day and fortunate not to be carded.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
If that's what you saw then justice was done, but to me it looked like he threw himself in front of Habana to draw the penalty.

Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?
How about Richie taking a bizarre detour around the ruck to smack someone in the face with his elbow?

MyChemicalImbalance
Sep 15, 2007

Keep on smilin'



:unsmith:

Apollodorus posted:

If that's what you saw then justice was done, but to me it looked like he threw himself in front of Habana to draw the penalty.

When Habana made contact with Milner-Skuder MS wasn't in touching distance of the ball, I thought that was obstruction. MS couldn't get the ball but he put himself between it and Habana.

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.
People get really weird about the reffing in All Black games, even when the calls go against us the opposition were outrageously screwed over by our devious acts of foul play according to some.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Mr Chips posted:

How about Richie taking a bizarre detour around the ruck to smack someone in the face with his elbow?

I guess most people will worry about it when it happens because that didn't happen this morning?

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Mr Chips posted:

How about Richie taking a bizarre detour around the ruck to smack someone in the face with his elbow?

This was only brought up because of some salty English journalist. Look at the videos- there was absolutely nothing in it.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

I believe in all the ways that they say you can lose your body
Fallen Rib
As a Bokke fan I can't really blame the ref for the result. The truth is the boks never looked like they were close to mounting an attack or threatening. They gave up possession easy to easily and it was only due to excellent defense that they weren't completely or of the game. They're weren't any controversial calls and even the closer forward pass try wouldn't have made much of a difference.

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DickEmery
Dec 5, 2004

EL BROMANCE posted:

Last week after watching NZ/FR, I felt a bit of relief that Wales didn't have to face that monster of a team... without seeing the game and just going by reactions, there's a chance we might not have been absolutely killed out there? That kinda hurts.

It would have been the same as Wales played against Australia and SA.
There's no centres left in Wales who can get past a defence.

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