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The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
They probably could do something like that, actually, based on what they described. Clothing and face are generated separately like CK2, so for empires with certain ethics they could be given uniforms that reflect their particular ruling style - fancy futuristic stuff for a technocracy, Spartan jumpsuits for a military dictatorship, etc.

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zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Agean90 posted:

I cannot comprehend the desire to purge and turn on their fellow man when there are literal giant ants threatening to conquer our frontier worlds.
The world being run by a jewish-reptilian banking conspiracy is a popular enough theory. Imagine if we had contact with real reptilians.

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

Empress Theonora posted:

Paradox should really... like... do something about all of the weird nazis and racists and reactionaries who have taken roost in their official forums.
Pay Something Awful mods to tend after the Paradox forums for a week. :unsmigghh:

Or just be more aggressive with forum moderation in general. Pretty much everyone online has been reminded at some point or another that 1st amendment protections don't apply on internet forums, might as well go ahead and start openly banning Hitler-did-nothing-wrong sorts. It'll be a shitfest on the forums for a period, but the pseudo-Nazis are just really loud and not actually a sizable chunk of the playerbase, right?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I'm pretty sure that I'm-not-a-nazi-but grogs make up a solid 20% of the HoI userbase soooo.... purging the Plaza might not do anything good for the Pdx bottom line. It would be the Correct thing to do, however.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Baronjutter posted:

I do hope it's really easy to make empire graphics though. Simple 2d portraits and some txt files or what ever. Workshop will be full of cool race sets.

I've been reading each dev diary with Star Trek in mind and I will poo poo blood if I cannot make a multiracial portrait pack that unlocks new portraits as races join the Federation.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Kavak posted:

I've been reading each dev diary with Star Trek in mind and I will poo poo blood if I cannot make a multiracial portrait pack that unlocks new portraits as races join the Federation.
You just gave me the thought that it'd be super neat if you could gradually progress the level of integration and co-operation of a federation the longer it is together. So at the start it's little more than a formal web of independent allies, but then as time passes you can strengthen it through diplomacy, moving up to shared research (I know that's a thing already), and eventually go for a kind of EU style open borders and free trade, then co-ordination of military vessels so that everything is standardised and all members use the same ship templates and eventually full political unification as a single entity under player control, assuming an incredibly high level of trust and mutual support and a very long period of time (centuries at least).

Basically a very gradual and granular progression towards a diplomatic victory as opposed to the Civ style "Unite behind me as supreme leader" binary vote that either fails completely or wins you the game at one stroke.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Baronjutter posted:

I just find it weird and gross and very paradoxforums that racial purge mechanics is something they really really want. I can get the argument for terrible nazi things to happen in a WWII game because that's history and it was a very important part of the time period. But in a space fantasy game?? In a game that will allow you to have slavery as a policy people are upset that the human names aren't white enough and why can't we have internal genocide and slavery?!?!

Like I guess sure there's some "realism" reasons you could include that, but I think it mostly speaks to the types of people the people demanding these features are. I'm sure they also love to play Germany in every video game and make scale models of german military vehicles and own "WWII memorabilia" that just happen to be mostly german and have book shelves full of WWII books, once again strangely focused on the germans. Maybe they do airsoft or historical dress up and have an SS uniform.

But they are NOT nazi's or nazi sympathizers they're just really interested in history you see. Anyways, click my sig to get a 20 paragraph feature request about how to "tastefully and historically" implement the holocaust to HOI4 and maybe why Hitler had good reasons to do it (good reasons from a historical perspective I'm not really a nazi remember!)

Actually it's really hard and, I would imagine, really expensive to get hold of actual SS or Wehrmacht uniforms. In fact they tend to be simply modified NVA (that is army of the GDR) uniforms which were very similar to the Wehrmacht uniforms. I think even the replicas tend to be based off the look of the NVA uniforms because they are simply so much easier to get hold off and work off than the nazi uniforms, where you might have mostly photos nowadays, while the NVA uniforms (at least elements of them) are easily obtained in Germany.


Thinking about it that's pretty ironic in at least two ways. First you have a communist nation basing the look of their military forces on the nazis who they opposed in most every way and wanted to distance themselves from. Second you might have a bunch of nazi cosplayer geeks unknowingly running around in communist army uniforms with swastikas and iron crosses replacing the socialist imagery.

Randarkman fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Oct 27, 2015

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax

Ofaloaf posted:

Pay Something Awful mods to tend after the Paradox forums for a week. :unsmigghh:

Then it'll just be Commies instead.

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

The Sharmat posted:

Then it'll just be Commies instead.

Depends on the mod. Map each subforum to a different Paradox game, watch the fireworks.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I'll mod the plaza in a fair and evenhanded way.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Much like in EU where multi-cultural empires get advisors from other cultures I'm sure the same will be true for Space-EU. So if you're "empire" is multi-species you'll get a mix of leaders based off the demographics of your nation and of course your policies towards other species.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Hopefully in stellaris there'll be an option for techno-fascist empires to build armies of clone troops.
The galaxy will tremble before my army of billions of cloned hitlers.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

I'm planning to start a game as militarist/xenophobe/individualist but I wasn't really going for the nazi angle and the varied portraits are welcome. I'm probably going for a more Starship Troopers angle but I like to think that humanity is just poo poo scared of what's out there and gearing up for the worst.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

I'm going to make octopus Tyranids.

All are merely food to the Octyranid horde.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Johan's smug forums sig now preserved for the ages

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR

V for Vegas posted:

Johan's smug forums sig now preserved for the ages



<3
I would have loved if they had taken any of my quotes on the Paradox forum. Like when discussion about optimizations on ck2 "Genocide is the solution to all our problems" I am a great quote machine for really lovely moral.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Groogy posted:

<3
I would have loved if they had taken any of my quotes on the Paradox forum. Like when discussion about optimizations on ck2 "Genocide is the solution to all our problems" I am a great quote machine for really lovely moral.

Write the explanation for CK2 slowdowns involving Greeks trying to castrate everybody on a wall.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Baronjutter posted:

I do hope it's really easy to make empire graphics though. Simple 2d portraits and some txt files or what ever. Workshop will be full of cool race sets.

Yeah:

Aerie posted:

Yes, modders will be able to add their own portraits, none moving. And if you have the skills, you will likely be able to create your own moving one too.

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR

Funky Valentine posted:

Write the explanation for CK2 slowdowns involving Greeks trying to castrate everybody on a wall.

Alright so let me tell you how the mind of a Greek work. Every day a greek ruler would wake up, ask himself "So who can I castrate today?" and he would look at every single living being he ruled over and ask them "Are you my prisoner? No? Well gently caress" and move on to the next one. This is how it would do over the entire feudal hierarchy. If any poor creature would prove to be in the greeks dungeon he would pay them a visit in junction with a very rusty knife and say something how about the great Titan/Scripter of Goosecreature compels him to perform this hideous act upon the creature.


The Optimization I did was that "Huh I am not directly in control of this guy, I'll delegate the castration duty to my vassal". The moral of the story? Delegation of important tasks will make your project function more efficient. Especially if it is about castrating people. Why this is not in the bible or Hávamál I do not know.

Groogy fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Oct 28, 2015

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

The Sharmat posted:

I'm going to genocide everything in this game with an endoskeleton and you can't stop me.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.

Fintilgin posted:

quote:

Yes, modders will be able to add their own portraits, none moving. And if you have the skills, you will likely be able to create your own moving one too.

Anyone know what they mean by moving portraits in this? It's been brought up in a few places but it's been pretty vague- is it just people blinking/ aliens dripping slime and gnashing mandibles, or are we talking fully animated with people turning their heads and gesticulating and so on, or something in between?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD3uqaPy7i4&t=69s

His lines are better when you wipe them out but I couldn't find any videos, sadly.

Makes me wonder what WMDs this game will let you play with though, I'm sure there's something more interesting than your bog standard nuke it from orbit option.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
Can I play as a leader from the We Are The World submissions in Stellaris/HoI4/Rome 2?

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Is there a vermin race? If not, why isn't there one?

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Koramei posted:

Anyone know what they mean by moving portraits in this? It's been brought up in a few places but it's been pretty vague- is it just people blinking/ aliens dripping slime and gnashing mandibles, or are we talking fully animated with people turning their heads and gesticulating and so on, or something in between?

They haven't shown or said. From the look of the portraits though, I'm guessing it's mostly blinking, twitching mandables, and bobbing heads. Layered 2d art with some movement rules.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Koramei posted:

Anyone know what they mean by moving portraits in this? It's been brought up in a few places but it's been pretty vague- is it just people blinking/ aliens dripping slime and gnashing mandibles, or are we talking fully animated with people turning their heads and gesticulating and so on, or something in between?
I seem to remember them saying there is space business happening in the background of portraits as if you are on a webcam call with them, in which case it probably also needs a bit of idle bobbing or something to keep it all looking natural. Dev Diaries in general need more videos please.

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Is there a vermin race? If not, why isn't there one?
Humans were like the first race announced dude.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

zedprime posted:

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Is there a vermin race? If not, why isn't there one?
Humans were like the first race announced dude.
:golfclap:

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


zedprime posted:

Humans were like the first race announced dude.

:vince:

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Randarkman posted:


Thinking about it that's pretty ironic in at least two ways. First you have a communist nation basing the look of their military forces on the nazis who they opposed in most every way and wanted to distance themselves from. Second you might have a bunch of nazi cosplayer geeks unknowingly running around in communist army uniforms with swastikas and iron crosses replacing the socialist imagery.

It's simply the classical Prussian style. The commies used it to legitimise their claims.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Is there a vermin race? If not, why isn't there one?

Reminder that the broad category that humans are a part of is "mammalian" so I guess that's why not.

Nblue
Mar 23, 2013

V for Vegas posted:

Three Moves Ahead have started a Patreon campaign to have a separate Paradox podcast every month.

https://www.patreon.com/3MA?ty=h


This is good and you should all support it

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Oberleutnant posted:

The galaxy will tremble before my army of billions of cloned hitlers.

Endless Space beat you to it.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
No those were cloned Horatios totally different species of poo poo head.

Sad King Billy
Jan 27, 2006

Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!
In the future Humanity won't just be black brown and white, they could choose to be any colour of the rainbow, or not even to look human. Furries could take on animal form for example.
What I'm saying is that to create a provocation with the Klingons, I'd make my ambassador to them a person who's fursona is a Tribble, so the klingons would butcher him in rage and give us a plausible excuse to annex them.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
If so there unironicaly better be an option to wage internal genocide against fursonas.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Randarkman posted:

Actually it's really hard and, I would imagine, really expensive to get hold of actual SS or Wehrmacht uniforms. In fact they tend to be simply modified NVA (that is army of the GDR) uniforms which were very similar to the Wehrmacht uniforms. I think even the replicas tend to be based off the look of the NVA uniforms because they are simply so much easier to get hold off and work off than the nazi uniforms, where you might have mostly photos nowadays, while the NVA uniforms (at least elements of them) are easily obtained in Germany.


Thinking about it that's pretty ironic in at least two ways. First you have a communist nation basing the look of their military forces on the nazis who they opposed in most every way and wanted to distance themselves from. Second you might have a bunch of nazi cosplayer geeks unknowingly running around in communist army uniforms with swastikas and iron crosses replacing the socialist imagery.

Why not dress like true and good NVA?



I hope Stellaris allows me to revive Giáp and use him to destroy every single empire in the galaxy.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Groogy posted:

Alright so let me tell you how the mind of a Greek work. Every day a greek ruler would wake up, ask himself "So who can I castrate today?" and he would look at every single living being he ruled over and ask them "Are you my prisoner? No? Well gently caress" and move on to the next one.

You have to go through each courtier and check if they're in the prison? You can't get a list of prisoners directly?

Dibujante
Jul 27, 2004

Autonomous Monster posted:

You have to go through each courtier and check if they're in the prison? You can't get a list of prisoners directly?

Well... you get a list of prisoners by going through each courtier and checking if they're in prison.

The alternative is to maintain a running list of everyone who is in prison and hope that the list never gets out of sync.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Baronjutter posted:

I just find it weird and gross and very paradoxforums that racial purge mechanics is something they really really want. I can get the argument for terrible nazi things to happen in a WWII game because that's history and it was a very important part of the time period. But in a space fantasy game?? In a game that will allow you to have slavery as a policy people are upset that the human names aren't white enough and why can't we have internal genocide and slavery?!?!

Like I guess sure there's some "realism" reasons you could include that, but I think it mostly speaks to the types of people the people demanding these features are. I'm sure they also love to play Germany in every video game and make scale models of german military vehicles and own "WWII memorabilia" that just happen to be mostly german and have book shelves full of WWII books, once again strangely focused on the germans. Maybe they do airsoft or historical dress up and have an SS uniform.

But they are NOT nazi's or nazi sympathizers they're just really interested in history you see. Anyways, click my sig to get a 20 paragraph feature request about how to "tastefully and historically" implement the holocaust to HOI4 and maybe why Hitler had good reasons to do it (good reasons from a historical perspective I'm not really a nazi remember!)

It's because they're a bunch of nerds directing all of their sexual energy into dumb power fantasies. Some idiots pick shooters, some pick fascists, some pick Stalin.

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zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:

It's because they're a bunch of nerds directing all of their sexual energy into dumb power fantasies. Some idiots pick shooters, some pick fascists, some pick Stalin.
Stalin is pretty deserving of sexual energy tbh :heysexy:

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