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Has anything been mentioned about those four (?) alien languages that he promised? I'm sure he said that professional linguists were going to be creating the languages from scratch. It was a something-million-stretch goal I think. e:  PAAAAAARRRRPPPP!
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Dapper Dan posted:The reason why they don't is because they desperately need the money. Any healthy company would (well most). Either because they care about their consumers or because if someone blows their life savings and then their wife leaves and they kill themselves, that would be bad PR. I think CIG legit doesn't give a gently caress about these rubes. Except they do it through a forced smile than outright contempt like Games Workshop. I think the most rational explanation is that Chris Roberts is high on his own supply. When or even if he realizes it doesn't really matter anymore, it's already too late.
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grimcreaper posted:Wait.. werent those THE flight manual that some fo the "top" forum "corporations" had as 'required reading' and would randomly quiz their members on? lol are you kidding?
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XK posted:There was a gif posted a week or so ago of a pilot sitting in a cockpit, the ship rotating around, and the pilot's limbs rolling around the cockpit as the ship rotated. I'm not bothering to look for it because I bet it got nuked by the bot. It basically says all that needs to be said about why this game will never come out in any form even slightly resembling the promises that have been made. Yeah this is probably the same things the news sites will echo next year when things get real dire. The biggest red flag for me that not many people talked about was the fact that they revealed at CitCon Sq42 is no longer a linear mission-to-mission story, but it's going to be an OPEN WORLD GAME. That seems like a massive shift this late in the game.
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MeLKoR posted:Is he one of those "turn the other cheek" ultra christians? No, quite the opposite. Check his RSI org.
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Assuming this train manages to keep going for a good while longer, I still think saying "the graphics look a bit dated to me" will be both true and result in amazing levels of denial.
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Agrajag posted:lol are you kidding? One guy had a space court-martial for something in one of the larger ORGS, the SUN org that had that massive fleet procedure manual I think. This possibly inspired the space court joke that's pretty tired now.
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Oct 31, 2015 23:59
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AP posted:One guy had a space court-martial for something in one of the larger ORGS, the SUN org that had that massive fleet procedure manual I think. This possibly inspired the space court joke that's pretty tired now. No jokes about Star Citizen can get old. Mostly because its a big joke itself.
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Nov 1, 2015 00:03
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Justin Tyme posted:Yeah this is probably the same things the news sites will echo next year when things get real dire. The biggest red flag for me that not many people talked about was the fact that they revealed at CitCon Sq42 is no longer a linear mission-to-mission story, but it's going to be an OPEN WORLD GAME. That seems like a massive shift this late in the game. Wait what? I thought it was Wing Commander 2.0. If they make it open world there is NOTHING that distinguishes it from Elite except for 10 hours of lovely Croberts B-Movies
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Justin Tyme posted:Yeah this is probably the same things the news sites will echo next year when things get real dire. The biggest red flag for me that not many people talked about was the fact that they revealed at CitCon Sq42 is no longer a linear mission-to-mission story, but it's going to be an OPEN WORLD GAME. That seems like a massive shift this late in the game. Wait, Squadron 42 is going to be an open world game now? What the hell?
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Hopper posted:Wait what? I thought it was Wing Commander 2.0. If they make it open world there is NOTHING that distinguishes it from Elite except for 10 hours of lovely Croberts B-Movies They described it as being a sort of central hub where you can explore to find different missions, something like GTA. I think it was during the slideshow, I am surprised nobody caught it. Justin Tyme fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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XK posted:I think the most rational explanation is that Chris Roberts is high on his own supply. When or even if he realizes it doesn't really matter anymore, it's already too late. True, he just thinks he is a creative visionary and his word is law. The problem is that the creative medium he is working in isn't a one man operation anymore. His fan base just reinforces that notion with the silencing of even the smallest amount of dissent. And he will never realize he was the problem. He will place the blame on everyone but his inner circle. His ego is simply too big.
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Justin Tyme posted:They described it as being a sort of central hub where you can explore to find different missions, something like GTA. I think it was during the slideshow, I am surprised nobody caught it. I was probably too busy doing real things to see the slide show sorry.
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AP posted:One guy had a space court-martial for something in one of the larger ORGS, the SUN org that had that massive fleet procedure manual I think. This possibly inspired the space court joke that's pretty tired now.  and this all happened Seriously? Can we get some more info for the newcomers? I managed to read this entire thread despite not knowing poo poo about anyone involved going in, and I'm munching popcorn with the rest of y'all now, but I haven't seen much about this aside from the phrase "space court". A recap would be fun while we wait for November 2nd!Also just wanna say that Derek Smart has done more realistic space flight simulation than SC could dream of, just by launching this crazy train into orbit 
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XK posted:There was a gif posted a week or so ago of a pilot sitting in a cockpit, the ship rotating around, and the pilot's limbs rolling around the cockpit as the ship rotated. I'm not bothering to look for it because I bet it got nuked by the bot. It basically says all that needs to be said about why this game will never come out in any form even slightly resembling the promises that have been made. Prototyping or proof of concept seems great until you try to expand features, and in my experience you end up rewriting the code often at a much slower pace. One of the problems CIG faces, is that they have to continually build proof of concept / demos / videos to get something out to backers. There have been admissions by CIG staff relating to shortcutting proper solution and using hackery to ship AC for example. While they internally recognised the need to build reusable systems they still seem to be struggling due to such high expectations. I was excited when they posted the new flight model information, however the lack of any working dev videos make me nervous.
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what hit home to me about dsmarts first blog was how croberts promised everything and well sometime you cant put everything in a game. especially some off the shelf engine. He should of stayed on target with his core game but no retard fucker that he is had to go off in lala land and make who knows what. That dude is a entitled spoiled loving soft bitch. Who knows what contacts he had from the git to even make a video game to start with. Now he thinks he has some gifted imagination when in reality its all poo poo. Hungry artists work the hardest and this slow soft gently caress is neither of those.
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This game is going to be so much whinny, quit with the neighsaying.
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Found an old link that still works, I bookmark and save the real crazy stuff, I took some screen grabs but these are only a sample of the full horror within. SUN Docs      
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Justin Tyme posted:They described it as being a sort of central hub where you can explore to find different missions, something like GTA. I think it was during the slideshow, I am surprised nobody caught it. Probably because no one could be arsed to watch that except the spergs, and they just lap it up as gospel anyway...
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Jst0rm posted:what hit home to me about dsmarts first blog was how croberts promised everything and well sometime you cant put everything in a game. especially some off the shelf engine. He should of stayed on target with his core game but no retard fucker that he is had to go off in lala land and make who knows what. That dude is a entitled spoiled loving soft bitch. Who knows what contacts he had from the git to even make a video game to start with. Now he thinks he has some gifted imagination when in reality its all poo poo. Hungry artists work the hardest and this slow soft gently caress is neither of those. Christ Roberts didnt turn down any feature request, save the rape and torture request... going to be a lot of angry nerds out there.
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What I don't get is WHY Roberts is considered such a visionary. For an "Ideas Man", his ideas seem pretty loving generic to me.
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MacGyvers_Mullet posted:Not really, sounds like your company just contracted the cheapest, shittiest CPA firm around, or the firm doesn't value them enough as a client to send you competent people. If an auditor is going in and being that lovely & unwilling to be reasonable, then you are dealing with a really really bad auditor. The autistic weirdos who have no social skills cant cut it anywhere but the worst firms. Yeah but seriously, if you're an auditor and you have money in this you're a loving idiot and terrible at your job. A 'fully funded' project that keeps asking for more money? Misses every self imposed release date? Management without any accountability (why yes, having the boss' wife as the head of HR is a great idea) High turnover of all the top level staff? CEO who spends 8 hours writing a batshit insane email? Customers who are getting their refunds through a loving movie company? There are so many red flags here its insane. This is going to end up as a textbook case of how someone can blow through $94M and the importance of internal controls.
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Also reminder that all the ships are actually physically propelled through the gamespace by their thrusters, so that's another layer of complexity that slows down implementing things as opposed to just making the entity move around and changing turn rates/speed etc. What does this add to the experience? Nothing. Nobody will notice it, it's an additional complexity that serves no purpose other than to make things much more difficult to add or change.
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Justin Tyme posted:What does this add to the experience? Nothing. Nobody will notice it, it's an additional complexity that serves no purpose other than to make things much more difficult to add or change. Actually when I last played Arena Commander just after it launched this meant that a lot of the ships handled like complete loving garbage because they couldn't get the thrusters to feel right for what you would expect in a video game, as the ships aren't really designed with feasibility in mind. It owned.
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AP posted:Found an old link that still works, I bookmark and save the real crazy stuff, I took some screen grabs but these are only a sample of the full horror within. yesssss thank you i'm PAAAAARPing with joy
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To be fair to SUN, they've probably had a great time role-playing being a space navy for the last three years while us idiots were waiting for a pc game.
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AP posted:One guy had a space court-martial for something in one of the larger ORGS, the SUN org that had that massive fleet procedure manual I think. This possibly inspired the space court joke that's pretty tired now. Oh come on you can't talk about that and forget to mention the guy they held a "court-martial" for was loving deaf, so he had to have a space lawyer relay everything to him
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Bolow posted:Oh come on you can't talk about that and forget to mention the guy they held a "court-martial" for was loving deaf, so he had to have a space lawyer relay everything to him That's him in the wheelchair?
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Chris Roberts sirs, the CR robs
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AP posted:One guy had a space court-martial for something in one of the larger ORGS, the SUN org that had that massive fleet procedure manual I think. This possibly inspired the space court joke that's pretty tired now.
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AP posted:Found an old link that still works, I bookmark and save the real crazy stuff, I took some screen grabs but these are only a sample of the full horror within. He was a big MMO player, too, just saying.
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Omi-Polari posted:This kinda reminds me of that manifesto Anders Breivik wrote before killing all those people in Norway. That kind of stuff is pretty frequent in milsperg clans in video games. Lots of medals, rules, theorycrating, almost all of which amounts to absolutely nothing because milspergs are loving garbage and their theories never apply to actual game mechanics.
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One more day until Dr. Smart's lawsuit, right? If the lawsuit didn't come, would this whole thread turn on Dr Smart?
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Jst0rm posted:what hit home to me about dsmarts first blog was how croberts promised everything and well sometime you cant put everything in a game. especially some off the shelf engine. He should of stayed on target with his core game but no retard fucker that he is had to go off in lala land and make who knows what. That dude is a entitled spoiled loving soft bitch. Who knows what contacts he had from the git to even make a video game to start with. Now he thinks he has some gifted imagination when in reality its all poo poo. Hungry artists work the hardest and this slow soft gently caress is neither of those. With the scope of promises that have been made for this project, there is absolutely no excuse for not writing their own engine. Engineering a AAA game engine is an endeavor, but with what has been promised out of this project, it would only make sense, as modifying any off the shelf engine to deliver on their broad promises would take so much custom modification they might as well make a bespoke engine. If I were running this project, and I were trying to deliver an outer space sim/in atmosphere flight model/fps/walking around loving with poo poo/manage the {cargo bay, slaves, barista}/gently caress space prostitutes/do whatever game, I would assume right off the bat I should probably produce my own engine so I don't have to deal with architectural design decisions made based upon supporting a game about walking around in a jungle with a machine gun. Maybe then they would be able to get their targeting reticule to function properly.
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AP posted:To be fair to SUN, they've probably had a great time role-playing being a space navy for the last three years while us idiots were waiting for a pc game.  These guys will call the actual police on you if you step out of line. It's in their RP manual, so you know there is at least 5 of them that can't wait to earn whatever medal you get for calling the cops on the annoying stoners.
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Jst0rm posted:what hit home to me about dsmarts first blog was how croberts promised everything and well sometime you cant put everything in a game. especially some off the shelf engine. He should of stayed on target with his core game but no retard fucker that he is had to go off in lala land and make who knows what. That dude is a entitled spoiled loving soft bitch. Who knows what contacts he had from the git to even make a video game to start with. Now he thinks he has some gifted imagination when in reality its all poo poo. Hungry artists work the hardest and this slow soft gently caress is neither of those. Jst0rm posted:He should of stayed on target with his core game but no retard fucker that he is had to go off in lala land and make who knows what. Jst0rm posted:stayed on target Jst0rm posted:stay on target 
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XK posted:With the scope of promises that have been made for this project, there is absolutely no excuse for not writing their own engine. Engineering a AAA game engine is an endeavor, but with what has been promised out of this project, it would only make sense Read all the way to about here
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Fish Fry Andy posted:That kind of stuff is pretty frequent in milsperg clans in video games. Lots of medals, rules, theorycrating, almost all of which amounts to absolutely nothing because milspergs are loving garbage and their theories never apply to actual game mechanics. But they seriously "court martialed" a deaf guy? Can you imagine being "court martialed" by some random assholes on the internet? Do they do it over Skype? "There will now be a recess as defense counsel requests Mountain Dew and Cheetos." *hits computer desk with gavel*
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