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Qu Appelle posted:How much extra is the data for the Tab A per month? $10 a month
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 21:01 |
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 05:37 |
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Will T-Mobile pay the ETFs for switching an entire family plan over from Verizon? Their service has just been degrading consistently for the past 5 years in my area down to the point of getting zero bars in our home. I'd like to be able to send a text without having to retry 5 times. Edit: I should probably add, yes T-mobile seems to have a much stronger signal here Diabeesting fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Oct 24, 2015 |
# ? Oct 24, 2015 22:26 |
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Oh, hey - those of us who got (and accepted) offers for unlimited data back in March. When does that offer expire? Is it at the end of this year? (I looked at my account - it's active until 1.2.16.) Qu Appelle fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Oct 24, 2015 |
# ? Oct 24, 2015 23:14 |
Rumors are that T-Mobile is about to announce music freedom but for videos next.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 00:41 |
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broken clock opsec posted:Rumors are that T-Mobile is about to announce music freedom but for videos next. goddamn going for the throat there
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 00:52 |
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broken clock opsec posted:Rumors are that T-Mobile is about to announce music freedom but for videos next. Yeah, netflix and hulu and stuff. At this point, why not just give truly unlimited data to everyone? I mean, poo poo, streaming music and video are what 99.9% of people use data on their phones for...and being able to scream "truly unlimited data unlike those three other guys!!" would be pretty good for tmobile, right?
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 00:58 |
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Yeah, netflix and hulu and stuff. At this point, why not just give truly unlimited data to everyone? I mean, poo poo, streaming music and video are what 99.9% of people use data on their phones for...and being able to scream "truly unlimited data unlike those three other guys!!" would be pretty good for tmobile, right? If they can categorize the traffic, they can optimize and throttle it transparently-- things like limiting netflix traffic to a megabit or less so that you'll get perfectly adequate 480p on your phone and not saturate a tower. And at that point the only people hitting their caps are people who *probably* should have a proper fixed wireless or wire line provider for doing the bandwidth-intensive thing that is not streaming music or video.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 01:21 |
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broken clock opsec posted:Rumors are that T-Mobile is about to announce music freedom but for videos next. Qwijib0 posted:If they can categorize the traffic, they can optimize and throttle it transparently-- things like limiting netflix traffic to a megabit or less so that you'll get perfectly adequate 480p on your phone and not saturate a tower. And at that point the only people hitting their caps are people who *probably* should have a proper fixed wireless or wire line provider for doing the bandwidth-intensive thing that is not streaming music or video. Am I the only one that doesn't like the precedent this sets? If mobile audio and video are what's causing the majority of people to use their bandwidth, why not just make unlimited bandwidth for everyone as standard, instead of basically going "this site is okay, this isn't, this counts, this doesn't count". This is essentially what the net neutrality crowd is afraid of, that an ISP will basically control which services go through the network free and which cost "extra" (for this, in terms of bandwidth usage). At the end of the day, it's basically saying "you're paying $X a month for unlimited access to these services, but all other services you have to use your allotted bandwidth to access as well". I get that people are all excited because FREE INTERNET STREAMING, but I can't see why this isn't better than just cutting the data packages all together and giving unlimited across the board.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:16 |
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PRADA SLUT posted:Am I the only one that doesn't like the precedent this sets? Agreed, but so far it seems to just not be an issue brought up, so it will skirt by.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:30 |
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Duckman2008 posted:Agreed, but so far it seems to just not be an issue brought up, so it will skirt by. I think that's my problem with it. Un-regulating certain services only (especially just high-bandwidth ones) seems more like a long-term positioning strategy to control bandwidth to services, disguised as a "look how much better we are than our competition" sort of thing, especially when it's virtually just offering unlimited bandwidth, but with control over which services it goes to. It makes me uneasy when thinking about the future prospects of decisions like this, especially if it sneaks in one step at a time.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 05:08 |
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I would have a bigger problem with it if T-Mobile was pushing their own premium video streaming service that didn't count towards the cap, or if you went over your data cap you were hit with an overage instead of just throttling with the option to buy more data. Like what Comcast is doing with data caps, but offering their Streampix service that doesn't count towards data caps. That's just lovely, and what net neutrality is trying to protect. If the rumor is true, I am especially excited to see how AT&T/Verizon/Sprint react to it. Music Unleashed was opened to like 30-40 services, and I can't think of any I use that are not covered by it. I would think it's pretty lovely if the major companies like Netflix and Hulu were the only ones covered. I'd love to be able to stream MLB games with At Bat, or a live PPV with the WWE Network. But if streaming video gets covered, I can't see myself even coming near my 3GB data cap. I may have to downgrade it back to 1GB and actually save money.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 05:53 |
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I think what this comes down to is they want to offer unlimited in a way that stops the tethering sperglords who insist that torrenting 24x7 is exactly what "UNLIMITED MEANS UNLIMITED" is supposed to cover. While whitelisting sites is not the most ideal solution, it does pretty much negate any possible end-runs around it to try and pass traffic off as if it was 'streaming'.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 06:09 |
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A reasonable solution would be if these streaming apps started offing the ability to download shows while on Wifi and access them on the go. Amazon Video now does it, and I remember the Comcast App has a very limited selection of TV shows and Movies that allowed it. Why can't the others do it? Is there any harm in having an App that lets me save a movie to my phone for 30 days, and need to phone home to extend the license if necessary?
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 06:17 |
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Astro7x posted:A reasonable solution would be if these streaming apps started offing the ability to download shows while on Wifi and access them on the go. Amazon Video now does it, and I remember the Comcast App has a very limited selection of TV shows and Movies that allowed it. Why can't the others do it? Is there any harm in having an App that lets me save a movie to my phone for 30 days, and need to phone home to extend the license if necessary?
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 07:01 |
IOwnCalculus posted:I think what this comes down to is they want to offer unlimited in a way that stops the tethering sperglords who insist that torrenting 24x7 is exactly what "UNLIMITED MEANS UNLIMITED" is supposed to cover. While whitelisting sites is not the most ideal solution, it does pretty much negate any possible end-runs around it to try and pass traffic off as if it was 'streaming'. This is it, really. Now watch iTunes be technically covered but Apple still just not let you stream anything larger than like 100 megs over mobile data as usual.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 16:12 |
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PRADA SLUT posted:Am I the only one that doesn't like the precedent this sets? It's a fine precedent for cellular data? If you pay for N bytes of data, you will get N bytes to do whatever you want with. The music (and theoretical video) freedom are just fringe benefits. They're not throttling Service X within those N bytes. You get bonus bytes to do things that most people do with mobile devices these days. If you don't use those services, you still get the same data you always did.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 18:32 |
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Yes, but you also create an incentive to favor the supported sites. "I can use *little company* and eat into my data plan or I can use *big company* and not waste data." Same reason people were mad at Facebook when they were launching that free internet thing a while back. It was free, but limited to certain sites. You can pay for the wider internet, but the incentive is to frequent Facebook's selected sites and not pay anything.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 18:41 |
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Uthor posted:Yes, but you also create an incentive to favor the supported sites. "I can use *little company* and eat into my data plan or I can use *big company* and not waste data." I think the key difference is T-Mobile's impartiality to the services, they don't charge them for 'special' access, and they add services based on customer demand. The current list contains a lot of niche services: code:
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 18:51 |
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Qwijib0 posted:So if you were a new startup, I think it's highly likely you could get your users to ask for it and get it added. I mean, I'm not mad about it, but it still leaves T-Mobile as the gatekeeper. Ideologically, it's not something to be happy about.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 18:57 |
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Qwijib0 posted:I think the key difference is T-Mobile's impartiality to the services, they don't charge them for 'special' access, and they add services based on customer demand. The current list contains a lot of niche services: For this model to work, T-mobile needs to be completely cut out of the process for being added to the service. Any company should be able to add themselves.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 18:59 |
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Super Dude posted:For this model to work, T-mobile needs to be completely cut out of the process for being added to the service. Any company should be able to add themselves. T-Mobile can't be cut out, as they have to work with each service be able to identify their packets to bypass the data cap.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 19:26 |
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Isn't Music Unleashed still missing Amazon Prime Music? Whatever they announce, it will be great if your favorite service is selected, and horrible if it's not.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 19:29 |
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http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/2/9657878/t-mobile-wants-to-put-an-lte-tower-in-your-house Free LTE tower with $25 deposit for your home or business offering 3000 sq ft of coverage. Why not just use wifi and wifi calling? Does wifi calling suck? Or will you not get SMS without a real signal?
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 17:14 |
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Don't need to have a T-Mobile phone with WiFi calling built into the OS? Or is that not a requirement anymore?
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 17:17 |
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Biggest issue with wifi calling is its either on or off. So at my house it works great. At my work it sucks. But i have no way of saying dont use wifi calling at work.
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 17:28 |
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FogHelmut posted:[url]Why not just use wifi and wifi calling? Does wifi calling suck? Or will you not get SMS without a real signal? On Android you basically need to buy a T-Mobile branded Android phone to get Wi-Fi Calling. Many/most of the better phones in the Android world are phones you buy unlocked so this is a huge deal.
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 17:40 |
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BeastOfExmoor posted:On Android you basically need to buy a T-Mobile branded Android phone to get Wi-Fi Calling. Many/most of the better phones in the Android world are phones you buy unlocked so this is a huge deal. The Nexus devices are exceptions to this rule. I'm using a Nexus 6 that was once a Sprint phone, it works just fine. Hopefully more devices will support UMA in the future.
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 17:49 |
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FogHelmut posted:http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/2/9657878/t-mobile-wants-to-put-an-lte-tower-in-your-house Most of the time you need to have a tmobile branded phone (not a problem for most people, but a problem for people who post on boards like SA ) although I think the newer Nexus phones support tmobile wifi calling out of the box? Also, a lot of work places have their wifi networks set up to block ports and such that wifi calling relies on.
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 17:50 |
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iPhones work with WiFi calling too guys. Hell, even my iPad does. (I can't tell how it's better than regular continuity from the iPad, but whatever.)
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 17:56 |
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Yeah the first thing I did when I switched to T-Mobile last year was call and order the LTE Cellspot, it showed up a few days later. It seems to work, how much, I'm not sure. The wifi calling on my iphone 6 worked great and there were no issues for the year I used it , although it was always at home. LTE Cellspot average of 3 tests ON/OFF: ON latency 57 download 13.1 upload 7.8 OFF latency 58 download 14.4 upload 12.8 According to that unscientific test, I get better speeds with it off. Now that I've recently jumped ship to an android bigphone, I would really like Wifi calling enabled on my 2015 Moto XP so it will just stay on it when I work from home as well as the Band 12 for when I'm in tall buildings the other days of the week. Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Nov 2, 2015 |
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FogHelmut posted:http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/2/9657878/t-mobile-wants-to-put-an-lte-tower-in-your-house Only thing I can think of is maybe you're on a limited bandwidth internet plan and you want to take advantage of free music streaming over lte
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 21:24 |
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:Only thing I can think of is maybe you're on a limited bandwidth internet plan and you want to take advantage of free music streaming over lte That doesn't make sense because it's still just routing the data that your phone sees as LTE, over your wired broadband. So if you pay-per-GB on your home plan, that sucks, and this wouldn't let you do an end-run around that. It really does seem to only be a benefit to phones that can't work with wifi calling already.
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# ? Nov 2, 2015 21:33 |
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I had a device similar to that when I was on Sprint. Depending on your settings, it would allow any Sprint phone to connect to and use it (default is on, obviously), so I'm pretty sure it's also a move to put service in areas that are not fulfilled. The range on the Sprint cell was about a city block large from my testing, which is not insignificant for a small device. It was 3G only so I'd guess newer LTE models would have even better range.
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# ? Nov 4, 2015 00:19 |
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Is there a way to get out of a Jump! On Demand lease without either A.) buying the phone or B.) paying off the lease and turning the phone in? A friend got one of the the new Nexi and I'm completely sold on going back to Android now.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 04:06 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:Is there a way to get out of a Jump! On Demand lease without either A.) buying the phone or B.) paying off the lease and turning the phone in? A friend got one of the the new Nexi and I'm completely sold on going back to Android now. No
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 04:24 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:Is there a way to get out of a Jump! On Demand lease without either A.) buying the phone or B.) paying off the lease and turning the phone in? A friend got one of the the new Nexi and I'm completely sold on going back to Android now.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 04:47 |
I had the $30 per month 100 mins + unlimited data plan for a while, then my account went inactive due to being out of the country for 9 months. Reactivating my account today, I don't see the $30 plan as an option anymore. Is it possible to get that back somehow, either by calling T-Mobile or going and getting another one of the kits from Wal-Mart?
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 19:51 |
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The $30 plan is only available to new activations online, so you'd have to leave T-Mobile and then come back.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 20:18 |
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Merv Burger posted:The $30 plan is only available to new activations online, so you'd have to leave T-Mobile and then come back. You may be able to call and ask them to reinstate you, but otherwise this is the way to do it.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 20:26 |
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So Data Stash is only available on the plans with 5gb or less of data? That seems silly. I was going to switch my wife and I over, but it seems like unless you need 4 lines, TMO's plans are relatively expensive these days.
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# ? Nov 9, 2015 03:53 |