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Vaders Jester posted:Not sure I agree with Dan Carter for Player of the Year, he wasn't particularly great in the Super 15 this year unless they're just looking at RWC knockout stage performances or something. I thought it would be Pocock
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Carter played himself back into such a rich vein of form for someone his age and propensity for injury. Peaking in the world cup final was almost too perfect. Pocock will get his turn.
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Nov 2, 2015 15:29
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Being good in a World Cup certainly has its merit and did a lot for Carter but I thought that Pocock was a better over the course of the year and was more consistently excellent. I agree that Jones should have got coach of the year, what he's done for Japan is nothing short of incredible.
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Vaders Jester posted:Not sure I agree with Dan Carter for Player of the Year, he wasn't particularly great in the Super 15 this year unless they're just looking at RWC knockout stage performances or something. I guess the RWC performances were weighted heavier than Super Rugby. Carter was incredible from the quarterfinals onwards. dex_sda posted:What about Jones All three of Hansen, Cheika and Jones have a solid claim, and it had to go to someone. Considering what a shambles the Wallabies were when Cheika was appointed, he has done a remarkable job at making them even a semi-decent team.
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Carter's retiring so this was always going to be his. Hoper was better than all of them imo.
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dex_sda posted:What about Jones Jones used to do the same thing when coaching Australia, we'd have a really poo poo team but he just knew how to beat SA so we'd squeak by with a win against a much better team. Other than beating SA Japan pretty much did as expected.
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Beating Samoa was never a guarantee for Japan as Samoa had come second in the Pacific Nations Cup, they had lost to the USA in the same tournament and Japan were one of only three teams to have won every single one of their own scrums in the RWC. Getting three wins in that group was pretty big considering they were likely projected to only get one, the progression they've made under Jones has been excellent. Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Tyma posted:
Glad to see USA with a top 3 finish. A glimpse into the future for them.
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So who leads the Hakas now Messam by default?
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meat CRime posted:Glad to see USA with a top 3 finish. A glimpse into the future for them. To be fair, they had former Rugby League superstar Jarryd Hayne.
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Apollodorus posted:To be fair, they had former Rugby League superstar Jarryd Hayne. Not anymore. Of all the problems that the 49ers have, Hayne wasn't one of them, but I suppose if you're going to poo poo the bed, might as well go all in on it.
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Jedimastafez posted:So who leads the Hakas now Messam is headed to Japan, to play in the Top League. Of the team that started the final, Coles, Aaron Smith and Nehe Milner-Skudder are possibilities. Other than that, Charlie Ngatai who captained the Maori All Blacks will probably be there as 12 or 13, or Aaron Cruden, who probably would have been at the World Cup had it not been for an injury. Or, because there's precedent of Pasific Islanders leading the haka (Umaga and Mealamu), Kaino might be the one to do it.
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Vaders Jester posted:Not anymore. Of all the problems that the 49ers have, Hayne wasn't one of them, but I suppose if you're going to poo poo the bed, might as well go all in on it. Jarryd Hayne vs Sam Burgess: which one has had the more disappointing conversion from League? it's Burgess, because at least Hayne gets his name on the shirt
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Names on shirts are an embarrassment and should be banned in all sports!
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Would love to see Hayne do well, he's a really exciting runner and if he grinds away and learns the game in the practice squad he could make a roster somewhere. Or like Burgess he could go back to being a top level League player. It's a tough call, I reckon both could make the transition eventually (with Hayne's job being much much tougher) but only if they want to commit to learning a new sport.
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League to union converts (with the exception of Robinson)are nearly always tragically mismanaged. Robinson was a bit different in that he was on the wing, technical positions like centre or wing forward are much harder to adapt to. I've heard rumours that money was a big factor in why Burgess was picked and played out of position, not sure how true but it was from someone who is pretty in the know (recent ex international)
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Aye, even Folau has said he's still learning the fullback position despite having been a very successful League convert so it's crazy to think the Burgess would be ready so soon and sadly he might go back to League instead of staying around to get a much better handle at blindside for Bath. (I wouldn't blame him for leaving, the media circus surrounding him has been a shambles.)hitchensgoespop posted:
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The Reds have signed Goromaru for Super Rugby next year Read more here
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No one deserves that.
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Mister Chief posted:No one deserves that. Yeah, playing under Richard Graham would suck. I'd have thought he'd be playing for the Japanese team (sunwolves?) next year. Also, didn't the Reds already sign Michalak or was it the Force?
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Unimpressed posted:Also, didn't the Reds already sign Michalak or was it the Force? I'd say that's exactly what he deserves.
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Vagabundo posted:Messam is headed to Japan, to play in the Top League. Ah forgot about that Yea my next pick would be Aaron Smith Wepu did the best hakas IMO
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My cat is unsure about Rhys Priestland She did very much enjoy the world cup though because it meant people sitting watching Rugby. Thanks Tyma for my prize, I just need to get it framed and put up in my house.
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What a wonderful prize, especially with the moustache! But what can we have as a prize for the Six Nations now that he's retired from international rugby?  There is this, but who knows if he'll be around by then?
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fallingdownjoe posted:There is this, but who knows if he'll be around by then? Oh my.
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fallingdownjoe posted:But what can we have as a prize for the Six Nations now that he's retired from international rugby? I think the real problem is that Rhys Priestland no longer lives 10 minutes away from my house. There is, however, still an infinite source of Liam Williams signiatures in Llanelli 
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Quade is in Europe now so technically he counts as French for the Six Nations...
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Vaders Jester posted:Quade is in Europe now so technically he counts as French for the Six Nations... And thus ends Toulon's dominance of European rugby.
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Apollodorus posted:And thus ends Toulon's dominance of European rugby. Insh'Allah E: Quade sounds so happy to be at Toulon too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snajcF4ircQ Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Must be tough being paid handsomely to play rugby in the south of France.
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It's easy to scoff at Toulon for killing French rugby with their dirty money but the fans in the south of France are really really into their rugby. You can do a hell of a lot worse than making 6 figures playing in front of a fanatical crowd every week. E: V V I'm not sure about Toulon but when you look at the support for teams like Toulouse, Perpignan and Montpellier the south of France is a rugby region. MyChemicalImbalance fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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Having a successful team made up of some of the biggest names in world rugby will make people super into their local sports team. If Toulon were mediocre and didn't have the money they do, would they get the same fanatical crowds?
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Apollodorus posted:What were they like 10 years ago? poo poo. Boudjellal bought them out while they were in the Pro D2 where they were propping up the table. Starting with Umaga in 2006, he brought in big stars like Gregan and Matfield to get them up to the Top 14 and competitive when there.
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I mostly meant what were their fans like when Toulon were poo poo, I knew they used to be pretty bad.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/34732141 ...And Burgess is gone.
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Vaders Jester posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/34732141  For all the shite surrounding him, he was getting pretty good. We could do with another back row, I'm not sure if there are any out there.
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tarbrush posted:
Edinburgh have shitloads at the moment, I'm sure they could spare you one if you ask nicely.
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tarbrush posted:
I feel sorry for the guy to be honest. Played out of position in a major tournament. What was he supposed to say? "No, I don't want to play"? Still think he should have stick it out though. In four years time he'd be a hell of a player for England.
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stavros880 posted:I feel sorry for the guy to be honest. Played out of position in a major tournament. What was he supposed to say? "No, I don't want to play"? Yup. I'm sure there were some underhand guarantees about him getting a spot when he signed the deal to come over, but even then I blame whichever twat in the RFU *coughAndyFarrellcough* bet the farm that he could convert to union in twelve months.
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