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Nicholas posted:That "Sneak Peak" escape pod video (released yesterday) is actually recycled footage from like, a year ago  seriously all the self ownage the last few pages is giving me whiplash. can we moderate this to a manageable level? VVV why do you still have money in this?
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I'm still complete in the dark about Alpha 2.0, but at least I know where entertainment lawyer Ortwin Freyermuth will be chilling out at my expense 
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Dapper Dan posted:Yeah, I think we are seeing the beginning of the endgame. My guess is that they are going to release some lovely Squadron 42 that is 10 hours of cut-scenes 3 hours of game play. This will ship with an extremely buggy 'persistent universe' that is completely empty and devoid of any substance, never to be fixed. Backers will get their 'ships', but they will all functionally be the same with a different coat of paint. The FPS will be extremely basic and in a separate module that has three weapons and is deathmatch only with two or three maps of generic future shooter. They will do the bare minimum to meet their legal obligations while they try to get back into the movie industry with the mo-cap studio. Remember when I broke the news that Sandi was shooting pet movie projects on RSI equipment, paid for with RSI cash? Think bigger. Yes - this is the end-game playing out. Think is, this build out has been going on all year - and long before some guy named Derek Smart became a PR nightmare for them in July 2015. I'm going to say it again, they're done. Completely.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:04
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G0RF posted:They've said its "our guy in China" / "our guy in the China factory" before - but not given a company name or anything. I suppose if someone here has ordered and still has the box it shipped in, you could get the address and figure out the manufacturer.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:04
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Hey. At least they reused something instead of croberts demanding it be redone for the 30th time. It's progress.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:04
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skaboomizzy posted:If I could look one year into the future, the two things I'd look at first are lottery numbers and the Star Citizen thread. To be fair, they're claiming that the "baby" PU is content complete, not the entire game. They're full of poo poo regardless, but it's not like CIG is claiming the full game is going to be released in 2015 or anything.
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Nicholas posted:That "Sneak Peak" escape pod video (released yesterday) is actually recycled footage from like, a year ago 
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Nov 6, 2015 06:05
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Agrajag posted:VVV why do you still have money in this? I don't and fortunately never did.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:06
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Nicholas posted:Someone points this out and then an hour later disco lando shows up to say "btw that's actually from last december. also nothing like this actually exists in the game" (the term game here is used loosely)
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Nov 6, 2015 06:08
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Dapper Dan posted:They purchased the hardware for it in 2013: As I said in my latest blog, all four are lifelong friends. So it's not inconceivable that Simon's company got top dollar for their "services".
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Nov 6, 2015 06:09
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Agrajag posted:well gently caress now we need more money for a baseball field Why not? It makes as much sense as any of the rest of it.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:09
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Agrajag posted:HOLY poo poo, they really rented 4 mocap studios for this pile of poo poo? yeah gently caress that this is all kinds of messed up No, they bought one, rented two, and are now building a fourth. Nicholas posted:That "Sneak Peak" escape pod video (released yesterday) is actually recycled footage from like, a year ago Welp.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:10
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Karl come back to us. Explain the mocap studio. You're better than the confirmed kiddy diddler seraph84.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:11
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This saga is more entertaining than the game could have ever been
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Nov 6, 2015 06:12
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So they're flat out admitting that the 'sneak peak' video is just a bunch of stuff they CGI'd together a year ago? Basically a rendered cutscene.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:14
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Me watching this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m20sZtQZWsw
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Nov 6, 2015 06:16
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The Saddest Robot posted:So they're flat out admitting that the 'sneak peak' video is just a bunch of stuff they CGI'd together a year ago? Basically a rendered cutscene. Yup. Were you expecting progress?
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Nov 6, 2015 06:16
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jaegerx posted:Karl come back to us. Explain the mocap studio. You're better than the confirmed kiddy diddler seraph84. he's an auditor so im sure his expertise will be able to shed some light on all of this
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Nov 6, 2015 06:16
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Sappo569 posted:Someone else mentioned the old benchmark software, and it's pretty apt for this video as well Not even that amount of time. Shot-by-shot: 0:15- engines on retaliator are in "Landed" position. This isn't even the flight model, just the hangar model stuck in space. 0:20- the "Emergency" textures on the floor constantly disappear and reappear 0:25- the escape pod clearly clips through the hull of the ship in multiple locations. Explosion is the generic FPS grenade effect. 0:49- Planet is clearly the textured circle from the Broken moon map, does not even appear spherical. Terrain is a bunch of random noise garbage. 1:13- Avenger appears to have been cut out of another shot and superimposed over planet- there's a weird thick black outline around the ship as it flies. Every single aspect of the video is slipshod and poorly constructed hack work.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:17
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The Saddest Robot posted:So they're flat out admitting that the 'sneak peak' video is just a bunch of stuff they CGI'd together a year ago? Basically a rendered cutscene. Yes
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Nov 6, 2015 06:17
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Sarsapariller posted:Not even that amount of time. Shot-by-shot: 
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Nov 6, 2015 06:19
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Agrajag posted:well gently caress now we need more money for a baseball field Ben: Hey... Dad? [Chris turns] Ben: [choked up] You wanna have a catch?  PAAAAAARRRRRRRRPPP!!!!!!!!
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Nov 6, 2015 06:19
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Yup. Were you expecting progress? No. I just wasn't expecting them to start reusing promo pieces from 1+ years ago as new content, then to admit to it.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:19
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D_Smart posted:As I said in my latest blog, all four are lifelong friends. So it's not inconceivable that Simon's company got top dollar for their "services". Yeah, seriously. I mean, that's ok if that's your only mocap studio. Fine, whatever. that poo poo happens all the time. But... Agrajag posted:HOLY poo poo, they really rented 4 mocap studios for this pile of poo poo? yeah gently caress that this is all kinds of messed up They bought 2, rented 2. So instead of building a baseball field, they built two movie studios and rented two concert halls. And the ghosts are all crying in their sleep. D_Smart posted:Remember when I broke the news that Sandi was shooting pet movie projects on RSI equipment, paid for with RSI cash? Think bigger. D_Smart posted:When I broke this news in my blog, as is the norm, rabid White Knights called me crazy troll. They didn't even bat an eyelid at the $20K cappuccino machine I said was going in this office. I kind of think you are right (I am a hedging my bets kind of guy) since you have been right about a lot and I said it could go on for awhile was before I found out they had done mocap 4 times before. Its unfuckingbelievable, really. And it seems they think they can get away with it instead of just having a bug out fund and a flight to Venezuela when this all goes tits up. It is loving absurd to think they are so delusional they can just gently caress around with 90 million and think no consequences will happen because it is crowd funded.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:20
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jaegerx posted:Karl come back to us. Explain the mocap studio. You're better than the confirmed kiddy diddler seraph84. My favorite part of this dumpster fire is the white knights who show up to defend the game for a week or two, only to be consistently and completely undermined by CIG's own actions. We don't even have to do anything- just sit around and watch them post increasingly desperate justifications for increasingly ludicrous waste, followed by defeated silence as they realize it was never us they were arguing against- it was themselves.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:23
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Ghostlight posted:Generally the way it works is you have a Chinese contact over there that you contract it all to, and they're the ones that hunt down the actual manufacturers and subcontract the different product runs out. Which is why cheap Chinese products are so notoriously awful - because your middleman is of course skimming as much as he can possibly can, and the factory end is cutting every corner it can to make a profit after either competitively bidding as low as possible to get the work, or straight-up buying the work from the middleman. What I don't think any of us yet understand is why they use China for their merch shipping center. I think I heard on a podcast that nearly half the online merch buyers live in North America, maybe 1/5 are in Germany. Australia is supposedly third biggest after Germany. The rest (EU states, South Korea, a few others) are the pocket change. They've chosen to center distribution in the one market with likely one of the smallest customer bases-- and furthest from their largest customer base. The only the more nonsensical would be relocating it to the moon.
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Dirty Hairy posted:What wording are you using to initiate this? Any surprises with CS trying to dissuade you? Please keep in mind that I am a barely functioning idiot and so the course I followed should be considered a guideline at best. Initial email quote:Good afternoon. They then ask me to blame the escapist or Smart. To both parties I imagine I owe my refund, in one way or another. My response: quote:Good afternoon. Everything else that was exchanged were variations of "Hello where are we with this" and "Yes, cancel everything give me my money, no I do not care if I cannot use this account to post on your forum." Mostly it was just a lot of waiting. Mentioning chargebacks will probably shorten your wait. I didn't do that. CS never attempted to convince me to not request a refund, as they have others. I can't imagine anyone was sorry to see me go. That was a lot of words I am sorry everyone.
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Dapper Dan posted:Yeah, seriously. I mean, that's ok if that's your only mocap studio. Fine, whatever. that poo poo happens all the time. But... im pretty sure mush mouth is in the clear as long as he delivers the very barest of bones on a "game". crowd funding is like the wild west right now and the recipients are making out like [insert whatever the saying is]
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This thread has convinced me I am smart for not giving money to internet spaceships, but terribly stupid in not giving a cat a good home. Too many drat cute cats in this thread. Guess I know what my x-mas gift is going to be this year 
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Nicholas posted:That "Sneak Peak" escape pod video (released yesterday) is actually recycled footage from like, a year ago lmao gently caress Remember the AC 2.0 demo they previewed? Remember at the end the ooh-aah moment with all the markers of interest on the HUD floating in space? Why couldn't they do a preview of one of those dozens of area of interest? Oh, I know why, because those areas only exist as fake blips on the HUD, they have no game, the only have what they prepare for demonstrations.
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Sarsapariller posted:My favorite part of this dumpster fire is the white knights who show up to defend the game for a week or two, only to be consistently and completely undermined by CIG's own actions. We don't even have to do anything- just sit around and watch them post increasingly desperate justifications for increasingly ludicrous waste, followed by defeated silence as they realize it was never us they were arguing against- it was themselves. Yup. Pretty much. It's painful to watch, really.
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Justin Tyme posted:lmao gently caress Yes. I called that one (staged demos) awhile back too. http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/08/interstellar-breach/#comment-1800
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Kewpuh is probably asking lowtax for a raise with all the posters joining just to poo poo on star citizen.
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What was the preview with the stupid mongoloid looking fucker looking out into space while drinking his coffee? There was a great post a thread or two ago how the one scene basically encapsulates the dreams of all these autistic backers who want to abandon their real lives and live through this game. After spending a grueling 10 hour shift working at a space control panel in the space mine it just feels so good to kick back with a cup of joe. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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I was the victim of a confidence trick / scam when I was younger, and the one thing I remember most about it was that it was embarrassing. Like truly dictionary definition of the word embarrassing. There are thousands of people -- a lot of them as old I was then -- on the verge of losing a lot more money than I did.
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Omi-Polari posted:I was the victim of a confidence trick / scam when I was younger, and the one thing I remember most about it was that it was embarrassing. Like truly dictionary definition of the word embarrassing. There are thousands of people -- a lot of them as old I was then -- on the verge of losing a lot more money than I did. my eye opening moment was back in school when I trusted the fucker who sold Spore.
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Agrajag posted:my eye opening moment was back in school when I trusted the fucker who sold Spore. The dick monsters were amazing. Don't you ever fault him for that.
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Agrajag posted:im pretty sure mush mouth is in the clear as long as he delivers the very barest of bones on a "game". crowd funding is like the wild west right now and the recipients are making out like [insert whatever the saying is] It might protect him from government action, but I imagine Civil Actions might be less. Regardless, if he does, you can bet your rear end people will take notice when he fucks off with other people's money and nothing happens to him. He might actually be the catalyst that adds some accountability to this poo poo.
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Toops posted:Proof: They been hirin' so many peeps they can barely even fit 'em on the dang STAIRS!!! NEED NEW OFFICE WITH 32 HD STATE OF THE ART MOCAP CAMERAS AND A HUGE OFFICE FOR OUR SKETCHY LAWYER, STAT!!! my trained eye just caught this, them stairs be flexin I used 200lbs per person but honestly taking a second look at some of the people its probably a higher average. 
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