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Bhodi posted:There are no idiot remote hands in aws, only your own fuckups. Remember when the datacenter went underwater and SA was down for a week or whatever? Again, not an issue in the clod. SA is a prime candidate; a small business with two or three servers that doesn't want to have to staff an actual IT department / person.
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Vulture Culture posted:so you know that the cloud still exists on computers in datacenters right 
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Vulture Culture posted:so you know that the cloud still exists on computers in datacenters right oh yeah then why do they call it the cloud if it's not in the clouds???? 
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Vulture Culture posted:so you know that the cloud still exists on computers in datacenters right Datacenters in the cloud. 
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Nov 5, 2015 21:47
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As an example of how easy IaaS still is to gently caress up, can you tell me when data is actually guaranteed to be committed to persistent storage on an EBS volume?
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If your company is cutting staff that's not illegal and just business. Now, if they suddenly fire without notice you might have a leg to stand on.
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Tab8715 posted:If your company is cutting staff that's not illegal and just business. My only guess is maybe he thinks they'll choose who to keep and who to kick based on discrimination. Or maybe they'll send the three candidates through some insane trial process in which they must sabotage each other's careers to win, culminating in a fight to the death with sticks of ram.
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Vulture Culture posted:As an example of how easy IaaS still is to gently caress up, can you tell me when data is actually guaranteed to be committed to persistent storage on an EBS volume?  you may have to snapshot it to be sure.has EBS ever gone down?
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Bhodi posted:I.. I don't think it is at all, ever...
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Judge Schnoopy posted:My only guess is maybe he thinks they'll choose who to keep and who to kick based on discrimination. Or maybe they'll send the three candidates through some insane trial process in which they must sabotage each other's careers to win, culminating in a fight to the death with sticks of ram. And then Larches will be forced to test those ram sticks to see if they're still usable.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:And then Larches will be forced to test those ram sticks to see if they're still usable. Does Buffalo make a RAMdisk product?
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Inspector_666 posted:Does Buffalo make a RAMdisk product? They DO! http://www.buffalo-technology.com/technology/our-technology/buffalo-tools/ posted:RAMDISK: RAMDISK is a simple utility that allows you to create a RAM disk on your Windows PC. The RAM in a PC is considerably faster than its hard drive, and by using spare PC RAM to create a RAM disk, you can give your computer a small but extremely fast environment to work on files in. When you have finished working on files from the RAM disk, simply save them to your PC's hard drive or an external hard drive for long-term retention. RAMDISK can be configured to automatically save the contents of the RAM disk to a hard drive during a Windows shutdown.
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Bhodi posted:I.. I don't think it is at all, ever... I've seen a number of people in recent years stop and start EBS-backed instances and find their server running on some version of the disk from months ago. EBS has partial outages all the time, especially with degraded performance that kills nearly every other AWS service in the region. Full outages are fairly uncommon.
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Vulture Culture posted:so you know that the cloud still exists on computers in datacenters right Bhodi posted:Also, shame time: look at all you people not wanting SA upgrade to  I'll take good care of the cloud guys Methanar fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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Lowtax should just randomly make someone in this thread admin, change it every month.
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Managed to land an interview for this upcoming Tuesday on accident when I was at my local testing center taking a certification exam, feels pretty good.
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Internet Explorer posted:Lowtax should just randomly make someone in this thread admin, change it every month. whoever has the most posts in the thread.
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Vulture Culture posted:Correct! Data on EBS is considered to be consistent once it exists in a snapshot! Another big hint was a related page "dealing with / recovering your corrupted data" and I thought huh, there's a prominent link to a recovery gui page and procedure with support help lines, just how often does this happen that they'd need this.
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Methanar posted:
Was this picture taken inside of an actual cloud?
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The reason I got a lawyer is that it's better to have one and not need one than the opposite, especially when the three-way deathmatch trial scenario described above isn't far from how I picture what will happen. CV polishing and job hunting is already under way. I have also offered to HR to voluntarily leave so that everything is easier for everyone else involved with the process, of course in exchange for reasonable compensation. As things are now I will get laid off with absolutely nothing to show for it, so there is nothing I can do that will make things worse in any way. Anything and everything I get that is more than zero will be a victory.
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evobatman posted:The reason I got a lawyer is that it's better to have one and not need one than the opposite, especially when the three-way deathmatch trial scenario described above isn't far from how I picture what will happen. CV polishing and job hunting is already under way. I have also offered to HR to voluntarily leave so that everything is easier for everyone else involved with the process, of course in exchange for reasonable compensation. As things are now I will get laid off with absolutely nothing to show for it, so there is nothing I can do that will make things worse in any way. Anything and everything I get that is more than zero will be a victory. I'm still not reading anything there that remotely requires a lawyer but hey, it's your money dude.
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I got a new NAS to replace the USB-only one my predecessor set up as our primary file share. Started a robocopy yesterday morning, I figured it'd finish overnight. I forgot about the marketing department.
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There's no reason not to go to Office365, right? I mean we're already paying $10.00/month for Hosted Exchange, we might as well pay $2.50 more and get Office and poo poo right?
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Bob Morales posted:There's no reason not to go to Office365, right? You're on their hands after that basically. There will definitely be a raise on prices in the future.
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There are plenty of reasons, but if you're already on hosted Exchange they drop pretty significantly.
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orange sky posted:You're on their hands after that basically. There will definitely be a raise on prices in the future. You seem fairly confident in that.
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flosofl posted:You seem fairly confident in that. Wouldn't you do it like that? Microsoft has used that strategy in the past, too. Only this time, your whole "infrastructure" is located on their data centers, so it's not only about licensing anymore, it's about migration, too. If they hike the prices and you want to migrate back to on prem, wouldn't you think three times before you do that? What if you actually get rid of your physical infrastructure? Every business has to be viable, and Microsoft's hooking everyone it can with pretty great prices.
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orange sky posted:Wouldn't you do it like that? Microsoft has used that strategy in the past, too. Only this time, your whole "infrastructure" is located on their data centers, so it's not only about licensing anymore, it's about migration, too. If they hike the prices and you want to migrate back to on prem, wouldn't you think three times before you do that? What if you actually get rid of your physical infrastructure? I'm not Gartner analyst, but I'm pretty sure Microsoft is focusing on a better long-term strategy than "funnel all our customers straight into Google Apps."
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I think it's been posted before...somewhere, but I don't remember any conclusive results from it. We're looking to replace MXLogic after Intel/McAfee said they're getting out of the game. We use it for email continuity and email protection (although we're maybe looking into encryption but that's not a huge factor). We had demos from Mimecast, AppRiver and Proofpoint. I think we're all leaning toward Mimecast. Price is not a huge factor, we want the best product and will pay for it as long as it's reasonable. All three seemed to have pretty similar features, but we like Mimecast's polish and their Outlook plugin seems to be pretty good (although we're also doubtful that many people would use it, but that's a training issue). Proofpoint's admin panel seemed super cluttered and their rule lists looked like a pain to manage (but powerful I guess). The most I got out of their presentation was that they're top rated by Gartner. Magic Quadrant!!! Did we miss anyone? Hands on experience with any/all of them?
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Mimecast is good. They always seem to take the recommendations when these sorts of questions come up here.
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Vulture Culture posted:This isn't a dichotomy. Exchange isn't the only email/collaboration game in town. 365 is fairly well known for being absolutely poo poo to try and get out of once you're in. Right now if you buy exchange licencing and office licensing every time a new edition is released or within a year, its already cheaper to go and buy 365 than it is to go and buy your own perpetual licensing. I don't think their strategy was "Lets make less money and increase our workload at the same time!". Its really really cheap so they get people in the door, and then they start cranking up the price once they like the numbers. This year already saw a 8-26% price increase dependant on your country and product, and last year saw around 15% The justification then comes 3 years down the line when prices are double their current ones, people want to look at leaving but when they say "well trying to migrate out of this would leave all our email, file shares, intranet, instant messaging, video conferencing, bla bla bla bla down for 2-3 weeks, whats the cost of that to the business?" is when they find the answer of "welp, its probably better to keep paying this inflated license cost than sink 40 man days into this and suffer downtime" Ahdinko fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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Ahdinko posted:365 is fairly well known for being absolutely poo poo to try and get out of once you're in. Right now if you buy exchange licencing and office licensing every time a new edition is released or within a year, its already cheaper to go and buy 365 than it is to go and buy your own perpetual licensing. I don't think their strategy was "Lets make less money and increase our workload at the same time!". So then it's Microsoft's fault you don't have an exit strategy other than "I wish we could migrate"?
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It's also called the oracle model, where your license prices every year are carefully calculated to be slightly less than the cost to switch. So prices get higher, not lower, as you buy more products.
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flosofl posted:So then it's Microsoft's fault you don't have an exit strategy other than "I wish we could migrate"? While i've never done either, I've read on it and as far as i understand, whats the options to get out of the mail? (please enlighten me if there's more, its a legitimate concern of mine and our customers) Isn't your three choices: a. PST export out of 365, b. spin up a hybrid exchange environment and migrate in the other direction, then migrate to your solution of choice or c. pay for some third party tool that will read your mailbox and copy it somewhere else, idk what you do for public folders or shared mailboxes. Other than doing some rear end backwards thing which defeats the main driver of 365 like putting your mail through mimecast and forwarding it to 365 and caching it all in mimecast so on the off chance in 3 years you wanna get out you can in a piece of piss, I can't think of much else. And getting out of onedrive involves logging into each individual users share and basically copying and pasting the files out? I've no idea whats involved in getting out of sharepoint, CRM and other products. I think they pretty deliberately make those the only ways out, its a smart business move on their part. Ahdinko fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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myron cope posted:Did we miss anyone? Hands on experience with any/all of them? We use ProofPoint and they're alright. Pretty complex, but it does a pretty good job of catching offending emails and the daily digest is easy enough for users to understand. We also have it set up to monitor outbound mail with a rule in place that if an exorbitant amount of email is coming from a user, it will throttle down the sending rate until we can look at it to determine legitimacy. We implemented that after some successful phishing attacks, and haven't been on an email blacklist since.
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Ahdinko posted:This year already saw a 8-26% price increase dependant on your country and product, and last year saw around 15% Office 365 prices have only gone one way. And it's not up. What plans and region are you talking about?
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Europe, Canada and Australia seems to be this years, across all enterprise packages, crm, EMS and azure: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/08/office_365_prices_rise/ The only time the prices were going down was when alot fewer people were using it right? Like 2012-2013? Ahdinko fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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Ahdinko posted:Europe, Canada and Australia seems to be this years, across all enterprise packages, crm, EMS and azure: I think that might have to do with the exchange rate rather than actual price hikes.
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