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Bridgeless crossfire works well, but I think that's a newer development than the 7870, and in general it's usually better to just get a new card.
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sout posted:I've been thinking about getting a second 7870 for Crossfire but the more I research about it the more potential issues I'm finding, for example: Yeah, at this point a 7870 is not strong enough as to be not worth doing anything with as far as recent games, and two of 'em isn't much better. If you're on a serious budget and like AMD, a good used 7950 is still viable to play newish stuff at 1080p w/some eye candy turned down, and they're only about a hundred bucks used. I put one in my secondary box and it ran GTAV surprisingly well for a four-year-old card.
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Yeah I'd sell the 7870 for whatever you could get out of it and look for a used 7950, 7970, 280 (AMD), or 280X instead. Some of the used 280's or 280X's may even still have a little bit of warranty available for the MSI, ASUS, or Gigabyte models.
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Nov 7, 2015 22:18
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Odette posted:Since NVIDIA are pushing all future drivers via GFE, are there any plans for a public non-NVIDIA repository of drivers? Because I don't see a way of rolling back if the drivers are FUBAR.
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Nov 7, 2015 22:22
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It's not impossible to grab the installation file from GFE.
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Odette posted:Since NVIDIA are pushing all future drivers via GFE, are there any plans for a public non-NVIDIA repository of drivers? Because I don't see a way of rolling back if the drivers are FUBAR. Only game ready drivers are going GFE exclusive. nVidia will still be posting quarterly drivers on their website. If you want some previous game ready driver, though, you are poo poo out of luck unless you trust a third party website to 'extract' it.
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Nov 7, 2015 23:02
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SlayVus posted:It's not impossible to grab the installation file from GFE. Infact GPE seems to keep every driver ever in both its compressed and uncompressed forms - kinda annoying if you have a small SSD.
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nVidia has finally acknowledged the broken power saving with high refresh rates and says a driver fix is coming.
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nVidia posted:We checked into the observation you highlighted with the newest 165Hz G-SYNC monitors. just... evil
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Nov 8, 2015 01:41
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1gnoirents posted:just... evil What? That doesn't make sense either way.
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It's been a known bug for >120 Hz monitors for quite a while. NVIDIA are only fixing it for PR reasons, to be honest.
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Nov 8, 2015 02:29
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Subjunctive posted:What's the new PR dimension? NVIDIA posted:"We checked into the observation you highlighted with the newest 165Hz G-SYNC monitors." Sounds to me like they're trying to avoid associating high power draw with gsync.
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xthetenth posted:What? That doesn't make sense either way. It's morally wrong of Nvidia to do anything that makes their products better because AMD is in such a bad position market share wise. Stuff like this just shows that Nvidia are a bunch of bullies beating up on poor, defenseless AMD! How dare they!  At least I believe that is the logic being used here.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:It's morally wrong of Nvidia to do anything that makes their products better because AMD is in such a bad position market share wise. Stuff like this just shows that Nvidia are a bunch of bullies beating up on poor, defenseless AMD! How dare they! The quoted text specifically is a really smarmy PR-ish response given that the issue has been around for ages and affects pretty much all (?) >120Hz monitors and certain multi-monitor configurations. To suddenly pip up with a "Guess what? You were right!" and imply it's a G-sync only issue has the feel of greasy corporate bullshit, doubly so given that the problem was ignored until the tech media started writing about it. I'm all for the issue getting fixed though 
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Daviclond posted:The quoted text specifically is a really smarmy PR-ish response given that the issue has been around for ages and affects pretty much all (?) >120Hz monitors and certain multi-monitor configurations. To suddenly pip up with a "Guess what? You were right!" and imply it's a G-sync only issue has the feel of greasy corporate bullshit, doubly so given that the problem was ignored until the tech media started writing about it. Yeah, it's standard corporate fare, and frankly it is why AMD would be a huge loss if it folded, but evil's a bit far.
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Nov 8, 2015 05:56
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Subjunctive posted:What's the new PR dimension? PCPer calling them on it.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:PCPer calling them on it. Oh, well, if anyone here works at a company where having something show up in the press doesn't sometimes cause reprioritization, let me know. I'd like to come on a tour, maybe get a picture taken with the monks.
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I suppose the distinction is that it was PCPer, instead of, say, bunch of dudes on Overclock.net forums.
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Kazinsal posted:Fan curve's gotta be around 50% at 50 C and 100% at 80 C. Hope you have noise cancelling headphones!
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Nov 8, 2015 10:02
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WCCF link but it's using data from TPU Is there anything to corroborate this being a bit blown out of proportion regarding improved performance on Win10? I thought it was known the 290X is marginally better than the stock 970 at higher resolutions?
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FaustianQ posted:WCCF link but it's using data from TPU It's WCCF, of course they are blowing it all out of proportion. The Fury X is only ahead at 4k, and only compared to the stock 980 Ti, anyone buying a 980 Ti is OCing it if they have half a brain, and at that point it blows right past the Fury X. On the other hand the Fury X does not OC well at all, so it still makes much more sense to go with Nvidia at the top end. It is good to see AMD improving their performance, they need to if they are ever going to claw any market share back from Nvidia, but there is a long, long way to go. I don't expect to see AMD really gaining much in market share until they have cards that outperform Nvidia's stuff by 15%-20% or more.
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I really hope the new Radeon Software update later this month improves DX11 performance by 10% - tall order, but making those kinds of gains is a great setup for Greenland, and it's always nice to be able to point to old hardware aging well for PR reasons.
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dissss posted:Infact GPE seems to keep every driver ever in both its compressed and uncompressed forms - kinda annoying if you have a small SSD. Is the exact folder for these known? My main system drive is only 128 GB, so I'd prefer not to have these piling up. The old manual installs would appear under C:\NVIDIA, with a folder for each driver build. Now the closest I could find was C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2, but wanted to check before I start deleting things since the files are separated by date instead of driver build.
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That's weird, the only thing in there for me is NVNetworkServiceAPI64.dll. e: Looks like you can safely delete the Installer2 folder contents anyway, so there goes a couple gigs of wasted space. The Illusive Man fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Nov 8, 2015 |
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dissss posted:The installers are under ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\NetService\ Sweet, thanks for this, you just saved me like 9 gigs.
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FaustianQ posted:WCCF link but it's using data from TPU WCCFT is bad, and you should feel bad for falling for their bullshit. The way those graphs work is that those percentages are normalized to the card being tested. Comparisons from other cards to eachother are meaningless. Even more so, as the testing rig has changed and the corresponding variables cannot be accounted for.
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They also removed Project CARS from the test suite between those reviews, which alone probably accounts for a percent or two average speedup on AMD cards. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Nano/20.html repiv fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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repiv posted:They also removed Project CARS from the test suite between those reviews, which alone probably accounts for a percent or two average speedup on AMD cards. In fairness PCARS doesn't belong in a benchmark suite as literally all it is an indicator of is performance in PCARS.
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I was less taken and more incredulous, but I was hoping that AMD was fixing their DX11 drivers, which will still be relevant TYOOL2017.There is basically no reason to not capture 50% of the nearly doubled performance that they get out of DX12 for DX11.
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Using shadowplay with Geforce experience to stream to twitch, is there any way to stop it from changing your channel title to [game title] powered by GeForce?
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xthetenth posted:In fairness PCARS doesn't belong in a benchmark suite as literally all it is an indicator of is performance in PCARS. Can't you say the same for most benchmarks/games? Or is PCARS still heavily biased towards nVidia cards?
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Actually, I think whatever the gently caress was happening has been fixed. In the [H] R9 Nano review last week, the R9 Nano outperformed a Factory OC'd GTX 970 which is about its expected performance.
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Ragingsheep posted:Can't you say the same for most benchmarks/games? I didn't notice it changing. If it's better than "lol 770 beats 290" now, then at least it isn't an actively bad choice, but it's still kind of a dubious choice because there's plenty of games that generally have worked mostly right for both brands from the start.
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codo27 posted:Using shadowplay with Geforce experience to stream to twitch, is there any way to stop it from changing your channel title to [game title] powered by GeForce? Install OBS? 
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codo27 posted:Using shadowplay with Geforce experience to stream to twitch, is there any way to stop it from changing your channel title to [game title] powered by GeForce? I noticed that as well when I went to the beta, but not with the non-beta version. Unfortunately right now I didn't see any obvious way to remove it in beta. And the beta is such an improvement I don't want to go back either. ^^ I like OBS and if you're actually going to stream seriously you have to use something like that for the overlays and whatnot, but to me its not worth the overhead difference.
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1gnoirents posted:^^ I like OBS and if you're actually going to stream seriously you have to use something like that for the overlays and whatnot, but to me its not worth the overhead difference. If you're talking about the overhead for encoding, you can set OBS to encode using the GPU which should be the same as using Shadowplay. Even better, you can go into the BIOS and activate Intel Integrated Graphics, and use Intel QuickSync, which causes like no overhead whatsoever since the IGP can be completely dedicated.
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