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##vote merk
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 15:35 |
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# ? Apr 19, 2024 01:53 |
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i havent read the last 140 posts what have i missed
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 15:55 |
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HiipFire posted:i havent read the last 140 posts what have i missed merk posted:Call me on my cell phone merk posted:I haven't read. The. Thread. merk posted:Call me on my cell phone
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 15:56 |
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well you should call him you idiot drat
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 16:08 |
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I will actually try to read today in a few hours. Sorry for not participating yet.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 16:16 |
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Kat Delacour posted:We still have like 24 hours of this poo poo don't we? Kat Delacour posted:I don't know if there is a meta friendship here but I want to draw an attention to why did Quidnose got namedropped and AnonymousNarcotics with significantly fewer posts got ignored. Kat's first post caused me to raise an eyebrow when I read it initially. Looking over Kat as a whole, these two posts stand out. These don't actually get us anywhere closer to finding scum nor do they give an opinion about any player. He's posting with things that make it look like he's scum hunting without actually scum hunting.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:41 |
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There that Merk guy goes again! What a whacky fellow. Anyway I have some thoughts: Kat's first post caused me to raise an eyebrow when I read it initially. Looking over Kat as a whole, these two posts stand out. These don't actually get us anywhere closer to finding scum nor do they give an opinion about any player. He's posting with things that make it look like he's scum hunting without actually scum hunting.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:47 |
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Podima posted:Auspol people: I've never played with any of you (I don't think) and I don't lurk-spectate any of your games. Please tell me one important thing I should be aware of about another Auspol person in this game. I generally find it scummy to ask for players to do something and then never follow up on it. Did anyone respond? Podima posted:To briefly and succinctly explain myself because it was a bad post: This post doesn't get us anywhere. Although he gives an opinion, he doesn't make a vote nor does he persuasively push either candidate.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:48 |
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Tremendous Taste posted:##vote ssv Do you still feel this way?
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:49 |
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The Kat vote is pretty good for d1. I'll revote again on this page to make that clear: ##vote Kat
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:49 |
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Merk, what do you think of Vimes?
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:50 |
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Merk seems okay having come back ##vote MMG
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:52 |
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CCKeane posted:Merk, what do you think of Vimes? I nailed him as scum in the Archer game and am not getting the same vibes here. The Archer case was based off of his casework and misrepresentations though, and he hasn't had an opportunity to make a real case yet. Thinking about it a bit more, I think he plays a good scum game. He isn't the type of player you're going to actually catch d1 with a case that has any merit. Any votes on him right now I don't think are good votes, which is why I asked Taste if he still believed in that vote.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:53 |
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After mislynching Ecco in a recent game, I went back and tried to figure out what went wrong. I've come to the realization that there is this group of players who play "fine" on day 1 as scum except in situations where they are lazy. That is, their content isn't going to look fake. Ecco is one of those players. When I voted him in that game it was based off of not real scum tells (i.e. tone, use of weasel words, etc.) rather than the only scum tell that matters (fake content). I think Vimes is one of those players. Any case on him right now is probably not a good one.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:56 |
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I agree with Merk re: SSV
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:57 |
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If you're going to catch someone on d1, you catch them because they are faking like they are scum hunting with zero flips available for you that help make that call. It's a really hard thing to find as town and a fairly easy thing to fake as scum. If you catch someone on d1 with a real case, you catch someone making a mistake or being lazy in faking content. I think Kat is making a mistake by talking about things that aren't scum hunting while making it look like he's actually scum hunting. Podima is in the lazy category.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 17:59 |
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You're right, I mixed Sam up with somebody else and thought there was a weird tone shift. I was mistaken.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 18:00 |
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merk posted:If you're going to catch someone on d1, you catch them because they are faking like they are scum hunting with zero flips available for you that help make that call. It's a really hard thing to find as town and a fairly easy thing to fake as scum. Like, for example, you could link me a random thread on these forums (not even a mafia game), tell me I'm scum and the thread is a mafia thread, and I could come up with an argument to lynch a poster in that thread that you would think sounds mafia genuine. ninja: Not tooting my own horn or anything. I just want to highlight that it's really easy to fake content on d1. If you're building a big and strong case on someone d1, especially someone who has been scum a hundred times, it's probably a bad case. I'm now trying to play d1 differently with this realization in mind. After writing this all out, I'm not sure what any of it means. But there you have my thought process.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 18:01 |
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...and as a final GENERAL MAFIA NOTE: That doesn't mean you get to skip d1. You can't take the JoseV approach. D1 (as even he would agree) is very important to a mafia game in later days. The content you're required to create from nothing now gives create insight into your alignment later on. If you're a player who takes a backseat d1 because you don't think quality cases can be made, you're going against the town win condition.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 18:05 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Actually, good idea. Don't want any people in other timezones starting a train off of one of my joke votes. ##unvote MysticalMachineGun posted:Morning all, I'll ease off on the joke votes if that eases people's minds. Comes across as self conscious to me, has added no real content to d1 at all and is mostly whitenoise. Even post "joke votes," MMG has offered nothing of any value.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 18:05 |
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Kashuno posted:Comes across as self conscious to me, has added no real content to d1 at all and is mostly whitenoise. Even post "joke votes," MMG has offered nothing of any value. What do you think of Kat? I feel like my Kat vote is much better than your MMG vote.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 18:06 |
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I could get behind Kat as well; my problem with MMG comes from throwing votes everywhere, and then his first post after "No more jokes" is:MysticalMachineGun posted:Nobody, and I mean nobody, calls me coward A joke vote. He then returns to jokephase stuff, but tries to act like he is actually thinking with this: MysticalMachineGun posted:Hey Mafia game room peeps, you're all more experienced than me I'm sure so what are we meant to go on on Day 1 aside from meta and joke votes? It seems the easiest way for scum to slide through on Day 1 is to lurk, especially since the post count function is broken. Furthermore, his most realistic contribution comes with this post: MysticalMachineGun posted:Kash's vote on me seemed pretty suss, especially since I'd implied I was out of the thread until the morning. Podima falls into this case too, but Kashuno pushed harder. And yet, even with finding me sus, MMG doesn't move their vote from a jokevote to me. That's weird.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 18:09 |
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man I liked it when auspol games just ended up pushing xenophobic lynches like 5 minutes before the deadline instead of this actually scumhunting thing
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 18:12 |
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So was that a voice-to-text goof or something, merk? ##unvotemerk posted:I generally find it scummy to ask for players to do something and then never follow up on it. Did anyone respond? i generally got a slew of 'lol meta reads are dumb' responses, though two people's replies were notable. Chic Trombone me-too'd onto the request and then doubled down on it when Kash challenged him: Chic Trombone posted:I mean yeah they could lie, but we gotta start somewhere re: getting to know each other's metas Birdstrike gave a solid effortpost and included his own scumtells, which I find to be a pretty townie move: Birdstrike posted:My hot takes on Auspol for the foreigners: Chic has been mostly posting a lot about not playing and taking easy shots at people (poked me for voting merk when he/she already had a jokevote on merk), which I don't like.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 18:59 |
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It clearly doesn't bother you that much, since you aren't putting a vote behind your scumread. Would vote Podima, but still like MMG right now.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:06 |
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Kashuno posted:It clearly doesn't bother you that much, since you aren't putting a vote behind your scumread. Maybe this is something I don't get about the ~SA Mafia Meta~ but is it really that important to slam a vote down with every post/read on d1? If so, then ##vote Chic Trombone to back up my read. Would also vote MMG.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:15 |
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Tommunist posted:So AnonymousNarcotics has made one real actual post in this game: It wasn't a non willingness to engage with you as much as just being lazy. And yes, lurking, I'll admit it. Looking back, I can see the joking intentions. I still don't think SSV is necessarily scum for responding to the accusations though.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:25 |
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Podima posted:Maybe this is something I don't get about the ~SA Mafia Meta~ but is it really that important to slam a vote down with every post/read on d1? If so, then ##vote Chic Trombone to back up my read. Would also vote MMG. you portrayed someone as the person you find scummy at the moment, but don't vote them. It's not like you had a case on someone else, or an interest in going after anyone else, you just didn't vote.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:26 |
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bowmore posted:
And he hasn't posted since. ##vote bowmore
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:31 |
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bowmore posted:
Fixed the formatting. I hope. Can't preview on the app.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:33 |
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gently caress. Forget it. You get the idea.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:33 |
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Kashuno posted:I could get behind Kat as well; my problem with MMG comes from throwing votes everywhere, and then his first post after "No more jokes" is: What you're missing here is that in between those two posts was EXAKT Science posted:Coward. And Bifauxnen posted:No way give us more
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:36 |
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MMG could be scum, sure. I have no idea. But your case is based on a false premise.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:37 |
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Perhaps that point is disproven by that (I don't agree that it is, if you wanted to joke post less just do it), but I still feel confident re: not moving off his jokevote to someone he finds sus
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:39 |
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What does everyone think about EXAKT dropping a mega-easy vote on me, poking the bear, and then disappearing completely? Shady~
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 19:47 |
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Hi I have some time now, what's happening thread
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 20:06 |
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Podima posted:Maybe this is something I don't get about the ~SA Mafia Meta~ but is it really that important to slam a vote down with every post/read on d1? If so, then ##vote Chic Trombone to back up my read. Would also vote MMG. I mean it'd have been one thing if you had a vote on a strong read on someone else, but why call someone out as scum if you aren't willing to vote them? It's weird and hedge-y (also it is she ty podima)
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 20:11 |
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Quidnose posted:What does everyone think about EXAKT dropping a mega-easy vote on me, poking the bear, and then disappearing completely? Shady~ Not a fan of the vote itself, it felt like he was trying to look like he was scumhunting while actually not scumhunting at all.
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 20:16 |
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Quidnose posted:What does everyone think about EXAKT dropping a mega-easy vote on me, poking the bear, and then disappearing completely? Shady~ Hey Quid, I had to sleep and work
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# ? Nov 11, 2015 20:18 |
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What was really pinging me about Quid was the way he dropped in and felt almost smug about not reading the thread. It irked me when we have people lurking and and people who are contributing a lot, and then Quid who was coming in and not contributing but making a big show of it. Unfortunately, I'm not in office today, so I'm not going to be around between now and deadline. Since Quid showed up and actually started contributing a bit, I'd much rather go back to voting Podima, because I feelt aht's a stronger case right now. ##vote Podima
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