Loiosh posted:

I think around $1,500 or so including gifts. It's all in the goonswarm google spreadsheet, though not updated for some package upgrades. (For those curious, this is under half of what I've gifted to friends on Steam: )

I consider it a sunk cost at this point. At the moment I'm concerned that CIG may fail, but I would, being honest, like to see them succeed, because I like the idea of the game.

Loiosh posted:

This is what I spend my time doing (on reddit) when I'm not reading. This one's been my entertainment this afternoon: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3shr29/mods_in_rstarwarsbattlefront_accept_bribes_from/

walruscat posted:

He feels like he is cheating on SC by feeling like this towards ED. He is anthropomorphizing his games. Sandi should really get on those spaceship body-pillows.

Matlock Birthmark posted:

I know you weren't addressing me peter, but always cayenne and smoked paprika

fuzzknot posted:

Just plain butter. I like cheese popcorn but can never find it.

peter gabriel posted:

I will try this idea, thank you

fargom posted:

Popcorn is gross and gets stuck in your teeth. People who make microwave popcorn in the office are worthless. These are my strong opinions about popcorn thank you SC thread.

peter gabriel posted:

butter is my fav

Matlock Birthmark posted:

If you don't like spicy, other options are parmesan, onion powder, or sugar. I like spicy though.

Mirificus posted:

That reminds me:

fargom posted:

Popcorn is gross and gets stuck in your teeth. People who make microwave popcorn in the office are worthless. These are my strong opinions about popcorn thank you SC thread.

Agrajag posted:

fatty

G0RF posted:

Kevin Spacey was a pretty solid addition to that game. One of the better recent examples of a fully digitized actor playing basically himself in a AAA game.

I enjoy Gary Oldman, too. Seems like a solid gent and certainly has had his share of quality parts of the years. Yet if the Bishop speech is any indication, it seems as if he's been asked to bring his A list prestige to a D-grade script, and furthermore, that whatever coaching / direction Chris Roberts gave him on characterization was pretty awful, too. Because rather than bringing OLDMAN GRAVITAS to the big scene he was supposed to carry, he brought only OLD MAN AGITA...

It's interesting that even the fanboys expressed reservations about Gary Oldman's "Admiral Bishop" speech- on reddit and RSI forums. We are in strange times if a sperg can get 439 upvotes and Reddit gold for a post that basically says the speech written by CIG, delivered by a Hollywood A-lister, motion captured by the best in industry and animated by an army of CIG devs missed the mark and should be rewritten and reshot to better capture the spirit of Churchill's "Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat" speech.



CIG can't have missed the fact that the centerpiece reveal of their annual BIG SHOW, the one that was supposed to let them completely reassert control over their own winning narrative, ended up prompting a chorus of 'helpful suggestions' to 'fix' what didn't work. Their well-intended suggestions, if implemented, would be catastrophic PR wise and not cheap, either-- that is assuming CIG could even get Oldman to return and do this over again.

And yet CIG is building a new motion capture studio in LA, which is helpfully located less than 20 miles from Gary Oldman's home in Los Feliz, if this article is still accurate.

I'm not saying they're planning reshoots or anything-- but if they're planning to, it wouldn't be logistically difficult.

Mirificus posted:

That reminds me:

Goredema posted:

Just don't try popping without the lid on. I tried it as an experiment, and the result is a lot like the Large Hadron Collider, but instead of microscopic particles, it's scalding hot popcorn shooting everywhere.

Mirificus posted:

It's amazing how Star Citizens rationalize away the awful support they're receiving:

AP posted:

In addition to the script issues, everything about the motion capture stuff for SQ42 reminds me of this.

peter gabriel posted:

walruscat posted:

I'm curious, are you okay with them having spent 10% of their backer's money on motion capture for Squadron 42? That is assuming the 10+ million figure is correct?

Wouldn't it make so much more sense to build a functioning game and then if you have money left over, maybe spend some of it on good motion capture and voice acting?

Eonwe posted:

lets come up with our own emotes

i want to Tebow

Eonwe posted:

lets come up with our own emotes

i want to Tebow

peter gabriel posted:

Loiosh posted:

There's two interlaced questions to untangle. #1 is if spending 10% of income on a mocap studio + actors and the basically over a normal action film length of shoot (88 days?) is a good idea. My answer to that is that it really depends on the result. If there was a Last of Us or Witcher 3 level of quality that came out the other end, then hell yes. I don't believe Chris has those talents, so I'd say it's way on the high end. I think it's wasteful, but not a critical level of failure like say, the plot in Fallout 4. (At least they are finally making good use of their mocap studio, even if they're still hampered by legacy cruft).

In conclusion, I think it's wasteful.

#2 is about how to build a functional game, which is a different discussion.

I mentioned earlier on in the thread that mocap is useful, but it is best used when you have your skeleton and rigging nailed down. Once you have that done, there's no reason not to do the mocap shoot while other work is being delivered (in this case, $$$$ jpegs and the back-end work on the persistent universe poo). Most games do their shoots while in production once they have the character rigs finished as the mocap cleanup team will do a much better job if their temp model will match with the final. Nothing's worse than having to go back in and fix the cleanup because a change in the skeleton hosed up your controls. (This is an anecdotal account, I have a friend who works mocap cleanup in the mobile space).

That doesn't quite answer the jist of your question which is, is it wise to spend 10+ million while you are uncertain you will have enough income to finish a game? If you take the view that they are a month away from failure (according to Derek Smart's earlier blog), then that would be a certain no. I see that the evaluation has changed to be six months (so June 2016?) and in that case, it would still be a no. It's not wise. If, however, they have a budget for this, then I do not see it as a problem. But, that requires them to actually deliver the product which they have no plan or ability to do for what, another year (supposedly SQ is 2016?). If I believe they have the budget to get SQ42 delivered, then I would not see an expenditure like this as a problem.

From what I said above, you can see I'm uncertain on this, and I think $10 million is wasteful.

Berious posted:

Shitizens make it a point of pride how much abuse they'll take from CIG. Reminds me a bit of tumblrites who boast about all their mental problems and imagined illnesses.

Loiosh posted: