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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:https://www.facebook.com/FOX7austin/videos/1037669422941202/ lol, people who don't think cops don't have the right to beat the poo poo out of a kid that comes in swinging
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holocaust bloopers posted:Hail Satan
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holocaust bloopers posted:Hail Satan 
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holocaust bloopers posted:Hail Satan I'm going to hell
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I find it funny that the only idiots on FB actively against raising the minimum wage to an acceptable level sucked mom tits until 18/19 before they joined the Mil. Makes you think 
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:I find it funny that the only idiots on FB actively against raising the minimum wage to an acceptable level sucked mom tits until 18/19 before they joined the Mil. maybe its because your circle of friends outside of the military is self selecting to have similar views to your own? what a mystery huh
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or because Mil members are idiots that sucked moms tit until 18 and the only job they've known is the Mil and gently caress those minimum wage workers You join at 18?
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Nov 13, 2015 20:58
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:You join at 18?
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are people, on the whole and not individually, actually better off if the minimum wage raises? -layoffs -price increases to account for the increase in costs -tax increases to account for increased cost of services and/or government service reductions just wondering. also, its a pretty common phenomena for a class of people to get pissed off if the conditions of a class lower than their own is improved. human nature to say 'well my life sucks, but not as bad as theirs so im doing relatively well.' when the conditions that the lower class experiences improve, they get pissed because they are not doing relatively better anymore even if their absolute status has not changed.
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Nov 13, 2015 22:49
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Well it's just they're living in poverty and getting government aid so paying them min. Is costing us more and only putting it into big business etc whatever
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do the numbers actually support that claim or is it just the narrative? i dont have an agenda here. i'm just curious what an actual economist might say. im pretty sure that, in the long run, the minimum wage increase is absolutely meaningless. prices for everything will adjust to a higher level since, and with few exceptions, the biggest cost to an employer is payroll. housing, food, and energy prices will shift to the right as wages increase. maybe not, i dont know. i dont have a phd in economics.
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Nov 13, 2015 22:57
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Raising the salary floor via an increased minimum wage is not going to suddenly thrust the working poor into the middle class. It'll just result in increased costs for commodities as companies adjust for the increased wages and perceived spending ability of their consumer. Oh my god someone help me I'm agreeing with Veins.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Raising the salary floor via an increased minimum wage is not going to suddenly thrust the working poor into the middle class. It'll just result in increased costs for commodities as companies adjust for the increased wages and perceived spending ability of their consumer. yeah, im thinking that the poverty level benchmark will just be reset at a higher level as prices(and to a much lesser extent wages) rise across the board. bad for growth and bad for employment figures. a lot of people, and not just minimum wage workers, might end up losing their jobs. and lol
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Nov 13, 2015 23:00
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People are delusional if they think the fast food industry would just accept a huge increase in their wages. They would shove capital into automation research and subsequently lay off their non-essential workers.
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we're on the verge of a major change in the basic fabric of society: automation and employment. not this decade, probably not the next but a jobs will begin gradually disappearing. a wage increase only encourages companies to invest in automation technology.
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It's funny when small business owners who are in favor of the min wage increase go out of business because they can't afford to pay their workers and turn a profit.
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A lot of fast food chains are already testing or have implemented digital ordering/touch screens/etc. It's only a matter of time before the food creation process becomes automated and the only people behind the counter at a McD's are there to load the machines when they run out of buns. The workers demanding 15 bucks an hour will only help to drive up costs in the short term, and encourage companies to automate the jobs at a cheaper price. Once that happens the higher prices will stay, and people will still be paying for 15 dollar an hour now-automated priced goods.
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Well it's just they're living in poverty and getting government aid so paying them min. Is costing us more and only putting it into big business etc whatever maybe if youre stuck working entry level at a fast food joint and you arent a teenager, you should try to get a better paying job? theres plenty of work that pays better than burger slinger that doesnt require a degree if you just raise the bottom alone, all youre doing is bringing everyone closer to it
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:maybe if youre stuck working entry level at a fast food joint and you arent a teenager, you should try to get a better paying job? theres plenty of work that pays better than burger slinger that doesnt require a degree I had heard that it actually does help boost the economy in general due to increased spending power all round, but I can't find the article right now and it's nigh impossible to find anything on it that isn't hilariously political
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Nov 14, 2015 00:34
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Lots of brilliant economists ITt
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Lots of brilliant economists ITt
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Quick someone put the drunk thread back on track and post tits.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:maybe if youre stuck working entry level at a fast food joint and you arent a teenager, you should try to get a better paying job? theres plenty of work that pays better than burger slinger that doesnt require a degree There's plenty of legit grownup work that doesn't pay much better than fast food, too. There's two sides to this and neither of them is completely off-base.
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Pretty sure big companies have had the prototype Burgertron-3000 ready to go since like uh, 1993. They just need a reason.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Quick someone put the drunk thread back on track and post bears.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:34
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Increased minimum wage will cause increased inflation and will drive up costs for everything. Not saying it wouldn't help those in poverty, especially in the short term, but those things would happen.
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USMC503 posted:Increased minimum wage will cause increased inflation and will drive up costs for everything. Not saying it wouldn't help those in poverty, especially in the short term, but those things would happen. Except that it really doesn't. Everyone can afford to pay their people more.
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A-that's not true, and B-even if it were you really expect businesses to eat that cost rather than pass it on to the consumer? Have you ever left your house?
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Yeah, independent of whether a business can "afford" a wage hike, just  if you think they're going to let it cut into their profit margin.
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i wish i could get the urge to argue about economics but holy gently caress i'm so loving depressed by this poo poo in france someone goatse me or something to snap me out of this
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Two Finger posted:i wish i could get the urge to argue about economics but holy gently caress i'm so loving depressed by this poo poo in france Bend over in front of a mirror and stare into the abyss.
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Two Finger posted:i wish i could get the urge to argue about economics but holy gently caress i'm so loving depressed by this poo poo in france Just load up a Mia Khalifa video and revel in the cultural victory of the West over Sharia.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Quick someone put the drunk thread back on track and post tits. rear end 
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ManMythLegend posted:Just load up a Mia Khalifa video and revel in the cultural victory of the West over Sharia. the worst thing is one of my close friends is iranian born but now lives in the netherlands, and given the enormous reprisals that are going to take place as a result of this i'm genuinely concerned for her safety
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