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Sappo569 posted:Injuries are one thing, but shutting down the whole thing because of one person's injuries is ludicrous Given the apparent need for him to micromanage everything and approve everything, it wouldn't surprise me. Is anyone else there really empowered to make any kind of decision beyond the contents of their coffee? Octopode posted:The wrist breakage didn't set them back three weeks; slowdown caused by it, combined with other bugs and issues probably did. People are arguing like this is the only guy doing anything and the whole process ground to a halt because of him; that's preposterous--all they said is that it caused them to work more slowly than they would otherwise, not that everything has stopped because of it. In other words, the wrist breakage set them back three weeks. If his working a bit more slowly set them back that much, then something is desperately wrong with everything in their process. It is just as — if not more — preposterous as suggesting that everything ground to a halt due to his not doing anything. The fact that he's not a regular typist, but a lead programmer, makes it even more of a laughably pathetic excuse for sheer idiocy than it otherwise wood be.
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Octopode posted:I mean, just go and launch the dictation software built into your OS and say, get it to type out twenty or thirty camel-case variable names and report back how long it takes you to do it. Now imagine that on a complex existing codebase of a few million lines or more and tell me that you could just whip up a few macros to handle those alone in a week, let alone all the other syntax issues. one guy missing work shouldn't have any impact on the development of a $95m project
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trucutru posted:Are you Canadian or *gasp* European? Because in the US you don't let something as silly as your health get in between you and your work. I am from the UK where of you have time off to 'go to the dentist' no fucker believes you I also own my own company and am an awesome guy
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peter gabriel posted:welp h aha That's kinda misrepresenting what I was saying though because that taken alone is out of context. Like everyone else has mentioned and even like I said in my own example losing one guy shouldn't delay a project like this so much. The fact that they said it did is what make its absurd and what makes it even necessary for such a retarded thing to take place as strapping a guy with broken arms to a chair and forcing him to work still. I am fully in the camp that he should be able to take time off. I am also in the camp that it shouldn't torpedo your project if he did. They are the ones who are saying it is delaying them so badly not me. I merely offered alternatives if the result they themselves are claiming so it wasn't so dire.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I sorta suspect he broke his wrist to get some time away. You know, like some soldiers do at wartime, shoot themselves in the foot and the like? Guy has my sympathies in either case and I definitely don't grudge him the chance to get spoonfed scotch by his significant other while nursing his Rumour is he broke the first wrist with a hammer and had to bite the other til it snapped - working conditions may be worse than first feared
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Vire posted:That's kinda misrepresenting what I was saying though because that taken alone is out of context. Like everyone else has mentioned and even like I said in my own example losing one guy shouldn't delay a project like this so much. The fact that they said it did is what make its absurd and what makes it even necessary for such a retarded thing to take place as strapping a guy with broken arms to a chair and forcing him to work still. I know Was a funny selective quote is all
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trucutru posted:Are you Canadian or *gasp* European? Because in the US you don't let something as silly as your health get in between you and your work. are cationalities a thing?
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Tippis posted:In other words, the wrist breakage set them back three weeks. No. In case it wasn't clear; I'll explain it another way, with entirely made up dates as no one here actually has any info about the length of the setback: Original projection = release in two weeks, based on what we're seeing of current issues Jim breaks wrists! Oh no, due to us losing Jim and needing to shift his workload, we'll probably need an extra week to finish! New projection = release in three weeks. Broken wrist impact = one additional week, not three weeks. The broken wrist being coincident with delays does not mean it was the source of the entirety of the delay.
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# ? Nov 15, 2015 04:27 |
one guy missing work shouldn't have any impact on the development of a $95m project
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# ? Nov 15, 2015 04:28 |
Google Butt posted:one guy missing work shouldn't have any impact on the development of a $95m project If that was the case, that guy would be contributing exactly no gain to productivity whatsoever, and shouldn't be working there, as he is literally nothing but dead weight. In other words, that's a ridiculous view to hold.
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Google Butt posted:one guy missing work shouldn't have any impact on the development of a $95m project Should be in the OP
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Octopode posted:No. In case it wasn't clear; I'll explain it another way, with entirely made up dates as no one here actually has any info about the length of the setback: But but but don't you know correlation = cause. Also is this thread still full of weaboo cancer or is that done? I really hope it is good again because when it is it is funny as poo poo.
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Octopode posted:If that was the case, that guy would be contributing exactly no gain to productivity whatsoever, and shouldn't be working there, as he is literally nothing but dead weight. Not really, in my world say if a designer gets killed after a phonecall to an agency another appears and within an hour he's working away on poo poo
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Octopode posted:No. In case it wasn't clear; I'll explain it another way, with entirely made up dates as no one here actually has any info about the length of the setback: You were very clear. You just refuse to accept what it is you're saying. You are saying that the wrist breakage set them back three weeks. Making up a story where you deliberately and laughably try to confuse the numbers 1 and 3 does not change this. In your example, with your made up numbers, the delay is one week. In the real project, the delays is three weeks. In other words, the wrist breakage set them back three weeks. quote:The broken wrist being coincident with delays does not mean it was the source of the entirety of the delay.
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peter gabriel posted:Not really, in my world say if a designer gets killed after a phonecall to an agency another appears and within an hour he's working away on poo poo As a government project manager, I wholly endorse this worldview.
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Guyz we would have shipped a while ago but the 20k coffee machine broke and everybody was too drowsy for two weeks. Sorry for the month long delay, the guy in charge of the flight model just lost his cat. We'll miss Mr. Bigguns. Everything was ready for shipment, but our chief linguist had the flu and it was difficult to coordinate British and US spelling for the word co(u)lor and such.
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Octopode posted:As a government project manager, I wholly endorse this worldview. It's good, I hope the guys wrists heal quick though to be serious for a second
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Derek Smart's dog ate our codework. drat you Legal!
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Octopode posted:No. In case it wasn't clear; I'll explain it another way, with entirely made up dates as no one here actually has any info about the length of the setback: Are your "weeks" figurative or sourced? E: Whoa, never mind, I don't read.
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RIP Mr Bigguns
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Octopode posted:In other words, that's a ridiculous view to hold.
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Octopode posted:The current bugs are preventing the release of 2.0; the art assets are the risk to the schedule of the project as a whole. Legit curious; where are you getting this from?
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i guess you could say his wrists are two weaks
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A Neurotic Jew posted:Legit curious; where are you getting this from? His rear end.
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Madcosby posted:i guess you could say his wrists are boo this man
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trucutru posted:Everything was ready for shipment, but our chief linguist had the flu and it was difficult to coordinate British and US spelling for the word co(u)lor and such. Chief linguist is working on Vanduul and X'ian (or whatever) fyi
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Madcosby posted:i guess you could say his wrists are haha
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good laughs to come
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Google Butt posted:one guy missing work shouldn't have any impact on the development of a $95m project Roberts hasn't worked a day in his life and you've all seen how that has affected this $95m project.
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peter gabriel posted:It's good, I hope the guys wrists heal quick though to be serious for a second
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A Neurotic Jew posted:Legit curious; where are you getting this from? A rational comparison of the progress on the code side of things in the last three years versus the progress on the art side of things, compared to the amount of work left to do for each necessary to meet the stated goals for release.
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Ragequit posted:Roberts hasn't worked a day in his life and you've all seen how that has affected this $95m project.
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Octopode posted:Broken wrist impact = one additional week, not three weeks. The broken wrist being coincident with delays does not mean it was the source of the entirety of the delay. Oh well, if it is a single week then it is perfectly fine! And of course it is not the sole source of the delay. Pretty sure all kinds of incompetence (like having a single guy break his wrist be enough to delay a 95m dollar game) are the true reason.
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Octopode posted:If you actually go back and read my post preceding that one, you'll see I was speaking in terms of the overall game, not just specifically the release of Alpha 2.0. The current bugs are preventing the release of 2.0; the art assets are the risk to the schedule of the project as a whole. This doesn't check out. How can they be behind on programming issues for the 2.0 release, while simultaneously being ahead regarding project as a whole?
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Octopode posted:A rational comparison of the progress on the code side of things in the last three years versus the progress on the art side of things, compared to the amount of work left to do for each necessary to meet the stated goals for release. Seriouspost, are you actually of the opinion that the programming side of the project is closer to completion than the art? Even though, by your own admission, they have hardly any programmers?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Chief linguist is working on Vanduul and X'ian (or whatever) fyi Are the X'ian incomprehensible space Chinese aliens with a weird design aesthetic?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:This doesn't check out. How can they be behind on programming issues for the 2.0 release, while simultaneously being ahead regarding project as a whole? something something leapfrogging something
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If anything the latest incident at CIG has strengthened my view of all programmers as skinny weak little nerds with fragile bodies Which makes sense because we all know isn't a programmer, and look at him. Boy is built to lug around heavy objects and smash down rocks
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:This doesn't check out. How can they be behind on programming issues for the 2.0 release, while simultaneously being ahead regarding project as a whole? The systems present in 2.0 represent a much larger chunk of the required systems implementation for the project than the art it includes does for the required art completion of the project, but that fact doesn't make completing that code any faster. Sorry, I don't know how to explain the point any better.
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trucutru posted:Are the X'ian incomprehensible space Chinese aliens with a weird design aesthetic? Star Citizen wiki posted:
It reads as a loving horrible Star Trek ripoff
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