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Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

This thread is good again :)

Sorry for my poo poo post getting top billing on this page.

Raskolnikov fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Nov 15, 2015

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Chocobo posted:

"Roberts," said Man, "when will Star Citizen be released?"

Roberts said, "THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT PLEDGES FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER."

Man said, "Collect additional money."

Roberts said, 'I WILL DO SO. I HAVE BEEN DOING SO FOR A HUNDRED BILLION YEARS. MY PREDECESSORS AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION MANY TIMES. ALL THE MONEY I HAVE REMAINS INSUFFICIENT."

"Will there come a time," said Man, "when the pledges will be sufficient or is the problem insoluble in all conceivable circumstances?"

Roberts said, "NO PROBLEM IS INSOLUBLE IN ALL CONCEIVABLE CIRCUMSTANCES."

Man said, "When will you have enough money to finish the game?"

Roberts said, "THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT PLEDGES FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER."

"Will you keep working on it?" asked Man.

Roberts said, "I WILL."

Man said, "We shall wait."



Calculate your chances.

Negative

Negative

NEGATIVE

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Raskolnikov posted:

This thread is good again :)

Sorry for my poo poo post getting top billing on this page.

Never apologize for this. Instead, as Smoke from GTA San Andreas said, just bask in the silence of victory, MoFo.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Did Derek Smart sue Chris Roberts yet?

walruscat
Apr 27, 2013

ZenMaster posted:

Wouldn't selling new ships at 1-2 bucks a pop be more lucrative than hundreds? I mean, if every backer bought a new ship (if it was made affordable) when it came out that would be a million bucks, but funding is nowhere near that.

Or is it epeen to have $pace$hip$?


Oh man... it's epeen.

You can easily make more money on a product by selling fewer units at high prices. It just depends on the type of customers and your product. They sell their ships like Hermes sells Birkin bags. Keep the supply low and people will pay much higher prices for exclusivity in their owner club.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Octopode posted:

No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

I actually believe you do. And I also believe you're that stupid to just say all this on the internet to strangers.

neonbregna
Aug 20, 2007

Regarde Aduck posted:

I actually believe you do. And I also believe you're that stupid to just say all this on the internet to strangers.

We are not strangers we are goons that ruin everything in his eyes. White Knight Errant Octopode can no longer sit idly by and let us ruin Christ Roberts Vision. He has brought out the heavy artillery against us. We are not without our own powerful allies though.

Amarcarts
Feb 21, 2007

This looks a lot like suffering.
I guess he'll never be the wrist of a major corporation



























But seriously that we're having these arguments is evidence enough that the project is FUBAR. The fact that they can't just show the public what they have so far and let the work speak for itself should tell any reasonable person that there has been some serious mismanagement. How hard is it to just put fraps on a QA guy's computer and upload it to youtube?

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Guys I just came back through the top secret Stargate project and I'm just back to pack my bags because I discovered a canadian forest world where star citizen was released and I am going back to play it. Peace.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Octopode posted:

Comparing percent complete to percent currently planned rough orders of magnitude and estimating specific release dates are significantly different tasks. The former ought inform the latter, but the latter isn't a prerequisite for a reasonable estimate of the former, particularly in an environment where plans and goals change often.

Rebaselining a program is basically an admission that something hosed up, and that either the technical challenges were greater than you expected, that your ability to project the productivity of your workers is poor, or that circumstances outside of your control have influenced development. There are no circumstances outside of CIG's control that have influenced development so either they hosed up estimating the technical challenges or they hosed up estimating the capabilities of their own workforce. The answer, of course, is that they've done both. Normally rebaselining is a common part of project management; you evaluate the circumstances and take your improved understanding and experiences to establish a new timeline that (hopefully) has greater confidence than the previous one. It's a natural part of any sort of major development. The problem with CIG is that they have rebaselined so loving often that there is absolutely no sense of confidence or credibility left. The FPS alone was rebaselined so many times I've lost count. When that happens the idea of "percent currently planned" is meaningless because it's blatantly clear that there is no plan. Instead we have a bunch of talented, driven people being subjected to constant crunch time at the behest of a visionary with a history of terrible project management who arbitrarily changes things to suit whatever whims he has that day. There is nothing to compare because there is no plan. There is only whatever Chris wants.

Here is the release date: November 2014. CIG told people to expect the game then, they received funding sufficient to meet that goal, and then they failed to deliver. Worse yet they are going to blast by the deadline that by their own TOS means things are so bad that there will be a complete financial accounting. Everything outside of that context, from excuses about expanding scope to their lead FPS programmer breaking his wrists to them changing the approach because it supposedly will improve things, is bullshit. CIG has absolutely no credibility left. Jared, Ben, Sandi, Chris, all of them are liars who will say anything in order to continue the charade that this program is well managed and things are perfectly okay. That you believe a word they say is ludicrous.

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
The only thing worthwhile ever done with the Stargate program was setting golfing records.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
My uncle who works for Nintendo has just confirmed that Star Citizen is coming to Nintendo NX! #hype

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

OhDearGodNo posted:

You're a bona-fide goddamn loving moron. Yes I'm actually insulting you now.

You just did one of the following:

- Posted that you manage JWICS level networks to support sensitive operations. This combined with other poo poo you've posted personally (such as upcoming medical costs) have now made you a spearfishing target. You've also violated several DoD guidelines on minimizing your online footprint.


- You're lying.



I honestly hope you're lying because you're not the only DoD employee here.

Get a mod to delete your post and all quotes.

I'll be looking into this tomorrow when I get into work.
haha

Chin
Dec 12, 2005

GET LOST 2013
-RALPH

Amarcarts posted:

How hard is it to just put fraps on a QA guy's computer and upload it to youtube?
They tried :smith:

A Neurotic Jew posted:



The bugs in this game are so bad that we can't get a single clip from literally hours of footage. But we will definitely pull something out of our asses next week for the sale or Ortwin will have our wrists broken and/or loving kill us. Also, everything is going fine, just fine.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Octopode posted:

No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

sure yeah not going to believe this for a second dumbass

you going to claim to be an ex-navy seal or marine next? gi joooooooooooooooooooooooe :gary:

neonbregna posted:

This is a pro tier self own and you don't even realize it.

This is a pro tier self own and you don't even realize it.

I also love this thread so much for all the low effort entertainment and self owning on the part of true believers. Its a constant deluge of self owns


Lets list off Octopode's many qualifications:

- Google lawyer
- expert in consumer laws and TOS
- network systems specialist
- DoD engineer
- expert in self owning
- auditor

Agrajag fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Nov 15, 2015

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


What did you just say to me you little bitch? I have over 300 poo poo posts defending star citizen.

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
Just so you guys know the level of expertise we're dealing with, Octopode also works here and consults here while also utilizing this to make this.

Loiosh
Jul 25, 2010

Chin posted:

They tried :smith:

One of my pet peeves is bad capture setups. As someone with a nice if messy setup: http://chattypics.com/viewer.php?file=Studio15JPG_vqefw2grl1.jpg - The inability to get good footage is a problem. They actually did show some footage from the master build of the new Connie in a test location, but their capture rig for some reason was at under 15 FPS on capturing. The really odd thing is in the video you can see that the actual display is at least at 30 FPS-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWmrP7DTE04&t=27m08s but when captured it's much slower.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

OhDearGodNo posted:

You're a bona-fide goddamn loving moron. Yes I'm actually insulting you now.



Get a mod to delete your post and all quotes.



no dont delete the qoutes

Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog
mfw seeing the page number :hehe:

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

A Neurotic Jew posted:

Just so you guys know the level of expertise we're dealing with, Octopode also works here and consults here while also utilizing this to make this.

oh gently caress Octopode is another Medic Boss?

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Imagine trying to explain to your boss Col. Hardass at Mt. Chili Pepper that you've been telling the world who you are and where you work...while discussing fake pictures of space ships for a game that doesn't exist

On a site that is known for their internet detectiveness

Octopode
Sep 2, 2009

No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

Agrajag posted:

no dont delete the qoutes

Why would they need to be deleted? He's under the assumption I've posted anything that isn't already public information, or that should be controlled; he's wrong, but he won't let that won't stop him.

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
:shrek: 4 days until the anniversary sale :shrek:

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Octopode posted:

Why would they need to be deleted? He's under the assumption I've posted anything that isn't already public information, or that should be controlled; he's wrong, but he won't let that won't stop him.

I'm pretty sure an employer who's staff handle delicate information won't be pleased one of their staff is rubbing their position of handling delicate information in the noses of stragers on the internet in the defense of a stupid videogame of questionable existence.

You're either lying or really loving stupid. Just stop posting, you have literally destroyed whatever was left of your credibility.

E. Besides, you're ben lesnick until you prove otherwise.

Xaerael fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Nov 15, 2015

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
can we make a wiki for all the happenings in this thread? poo poo is too hard to follow

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Bad_Guys

quote:

SG-1 travel to P4M-328 to recover the Clava Thessara Infinitas, but discover that the Stargate there is a museum piece without a working Dial Home Device, and they can't go back. Things get worse when they are spotted by the natives. Believed to be rebels, SG-1 is forced to hold everyone hostage.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Window_of_Opportunity

quote:

On a routine mission to P4X-639, SG-1 meets an alien archaeologist Malakai operating an Ancient device. Malakai has his own motives and causes a time loop, where only Colonel Jack O'Neill and Teal'c notice. Furthermore, convincing the rest they are trapped in a time loop and that they have to return to the planet to stop it proves difficult when the same few hours from breakfast to the mission is repeated over and over again.

These are my two favourite Stargate episodes, I only quoted the Seth one because it would be quite amusing if the founders of CIG turned out to be ancient Goa'uld.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Octopode posted:

Why would they need to be deleted? He's under the assumption I've posted anything that isn't already public information, or that should be controlled; he's wrong, but he won't let that won't stop him.

Oh my god you don't know when to stop.

In a single post you identified your clearance level, the project you work on, who you work/contract with, where you work, and who is under the systems you manage. And to top it all off its JWICS.


:bravo:

OhDearGodNo fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Nov 15, 2015

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

OhDearGodNo posted:

Oh my god you don't know when to stop.

Digital tourettes, live on the internet.

TasogareNoKagi
Jul 11, 2013

So I've spent the past few weeks unplugged while I move, has anything important happened? What's parp?

To keep this on topic, any suggestions of good office chairs?

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
:five:

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

TasogareNoKagi posted:

To keep this on topic, any suggestions of good office chairs?
If you need a desk to go with those chairs, CIG wholeheartedly recommends these:



Aviator Wing Desk $2395 Special $2035

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Octopode posted:

Why would they need to be deleted? He's under the assumption I've posted anything that isn't already public information, or that should be controlled; he's wrong, but he won't let that won't stop him.

Don't listen to these assholes, double down. Perhaps you have an ID card or wage slip we could verify.

Loiosh
Jul 25, 2010

TasogareNoKagi posted:

So I've spent the past few weeks unplugged while I move, has anything important happened? What's parp?

To keep this on topic, any suggestions of good office chairs?

I like the Office Depot 9000: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/510830/WorkPro-Quantum-9000-Series-Ergonomic-Mesh/

It's not to the same level as an Aeron with lacking a few adjustments, but it's a wonderfully comfortable chair. The ones at my work (which cost twice as much) are not nearly as nice as the silly thing. Plus it goes on sale regularly.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Mirificus posted:

If you need a desk to go with those chairs, CIG wholeheartedly recommends these:



Aviator Wing Desk $2395 Special $2035

what a stupid looking desk

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

TasogareNoKagi posted:

To keep this on topic, any suggestions of good office chairs?



These are nice.

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
this is going to be a good week for the Star Citizen Something Awful thread imo.

Avasculous
Aug 30, 2008
On the one hand, if anyone with those credentials was dumb enough to post them on SA after signing 80 Very Serious Documents swearing not to do just that and getting clearance, we would have all grown up speaking Russian.

On the other hand, if he was just an idiot or totally full of poo poo, I would expect him to just vaguely claim to run IT for the Pentagon or Area-51 rather than listing specific agencies/projects.

My money is on him being a civilian just barely, distantly connected enough to one of those things to have heard of them without even meriting an internet privacy orientation seminar.

Still going to be a highlight of this thread if one of the posters gets whisked away to a CIA Black Site for reprogramming.

Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog
opsec is every citizen's responsibility

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eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
lol

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