OhDearGodNo posted:

It's surprising because it's gone from CIG moving goalposts (polished pre-alpha) to completely changing them (FPS now 2.0) and eventually just questioning why people keep attacking them with ridiculous things like "promises" or in a more professional sense "progress."

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I can't even IMAGINE a full release at this point

I Mean holy poo poo CIG said if we reached the 6 million stretch goal that there would be 100 star systems at launch with multiple planets and each planet would have multiple landing zones and it's been three years and we only have THREE landing zones even close to being done

That's less than 1% of what's supposed to be in the game. I don't even need to do the math to know that the ETA for the final game is INCREDIBLY far away even if they drastically speed up creation.

Then look at the Constellation it took over 3 years from concept to flyable ncluding a 9 month redesign that STILL isn't done and we have over 50 ships left to go MOST of which haven't even been STARTED

I realize Ben said once they get one done it speeds up the proccess for the others because they have better systems in place and can reuse assets but COME ON

And that's not even talking about all the functionality and core game mechanics that are still in the pen and paper theory craft stage.

And don't even get me started on how CIG plans to get 100 people in an instance or how long and how much work it will take to get the Engine to even be able to handle an MMO like this. Or if it's even POSSIBLE. 3 years in and we don't even know if the vision is possible.

So how the hell can this game be done by the end of 2016 which was Chris Roberts latest ETA. Actually how the hell could it be anywhere near 2016 and how could you even come up with such an unrealistic ETA to give your backers?

I don't even see how it could be done before Q1 2018 at this rate even if production speeds up significantly

I am officially depressed just thinking about it. I Honestly believed Chris when he said beta at end of 2014 and I was perfectly happy with the original kickstarter scope.

My HOPE is that CIG spends more time making basic flying/dogfighting actually fun and gets rid of interactive mode and makes the arena commander joystick experience better because I would be happy for 2 another years just playing Arena Commander IF the gameplay was ACTUALLY GOOD/ balanced and joystick wasn't at a disadvantage to mouse

Hopefully 2.0 is the start of CIG finally taking advantage of their live game Arena Commander and putting out something that more than 200 people WANT to spend time playtesting each week

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Almost none of the art stuff is finished, and what they've released as "playable" is still a WIP. The Cutlass is a perfect example. Programming drives a significant portion of the assets that have to be made. For ships alone you have flight mechanics, boarding mechanics, damage model, docking mechanics, interior gameplay considerations, and a host of other things that should have been finalized on gray boxes long before we had flyable starships. Instead CIG has wasted a significant amount of time and money having to redo things that were once considered to be in their final form. Three years (really four) into development we still have a limited understanding at best of every major game mechanic that's supposed to be implemented even though people are flying their pretty starships and running each other over in buggies. That's like trying to build a car at the same as as while God decides what the Laws of Physics should be. Not only does CIG have a tremendous amount of outstanding assets, they also have a tremendous amount of waste.

A Neurotic Jew posted:

If it's relatively easy, why do they refuse to give release estimates, why did the FPS module that they've been promising all year get indefinitely delayed, and why have they missed so many release dates? Because of art assets?

peter gabriel posted:

Well I'm all out of alien ideas

Octopode posted:

Here's the source starting at the beginning, have fun.

peter gabriel posted:

Is this an insult?

OhDearGodNo posted:

Octopode manages 3 datacenters while also moonlighting as a lawyer in trade law (hence his extensive knowledge with TOS enforcement) and only recently has begun to apply his expertise in programming.

To be fair, he has more marketing experience than Sandi.

Sarsapariller posted:

People constantly dunking on Octopode is funny, but doesn't really seem necessary. I'm going to keep sitting here and the game's going to keep not being out, and he'll keep being wrong. That's really all that's necessary.

neonbregna posted:

Source your quotes

Omi-Polari posted:

Octopode posted:

No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

Eonwe posted:

Everything octopode posts is tedious as hell and I don't read it

Young Freud posted:

The guy was a lead programmer, so I'd wager that he probably didn't do a whole lot of coding but instead delegated and checked the work of the programmers under him, coming up with processes, or help brainstorm solutions to process issues.

And even if he did do programming, I'd rather go with him dictating to another programmer instead of voice-to-text, just because they're will be some understanding regarding the vagaries of the programming language.

Omi-Polari posted:

Octopode posted:

They don't generally raise a fuss about things that they released to the press years ago. Cat's pretty well out of the bag on those.

Loiosh posted:

One of the most odd creatures around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrPvMMkQkk0

Myxine, the slime eel, or hagfish are the only craniates (creatures with a skull) that do not have a vertebral spine. They tie themselves in knots, produce a horrifying slime with disturbed and like eating other creatures from the inside out. (That last statement isn't quite true). They're make for a great alien critter type of design.

Ramadu posted:

I dont think scorpions can evolve with guns as their tails and arms

Loiosh posted:

One of the most odd creatures around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrPvMMkQkk0

Myxine, the slime eel, or hagfish are the only craniates (creatures with a skull) that do not have a vertebral spine. They tie themselves in knots, produce a horrifying slime with disturbed and like eating other creatures from the inside out. (That last statement isn't quite true). They're make for a great alien critter type of design.

D_Smart posted:

Then you don't have a security or FBI clearance. If you did, then you would know - right off the bat - that you can't disclose your govt. employer or tasking in a public forum if said employer is in any way, shape or form connected to a govt. agency with ties to any defense agency.

Guess how I know all this.

ps: I believe you btw. I just think you're being irresponsible because I found out who you were in the time it took me to write this response

D_Smart posted:

ps: I believe you btw. I just think you're being irresponsible because I found out who you were in the time it took me to write this response

Chocobo posted:

Seven loving years of development and nothing to show for it.

kordansk posted:

Yeah I don't believe you. I have friends that work for the DIA. They aren't loving morons. I hope they yank your TS/SCI clearance so you get to loving flip burgers the rest of your life. I wouldn't be surprised if some goon decides to make your life miserable and 'leak' your shitposts to some bored investigators.

D_Smart posted:

Then you don't have a security or FBI clearance. If you did, then you would know - right off the bat - that you can't disclose your govt. employer or tasking in a public forum if said employer is in any way, shape or form connected to a govt. agency with ties to any defense agency.

Guess how I know all this.

ps: I believe you btw. I just think you're being irresponsible because I found out who you were in the time it took me to write this response

D_Smart posted:

ROTFLMAO!! Are you a time traveler!?!?! Just two pages ago, it was five (which in and of itself, was already ridiculous) years. Stop trolling please.

OhDearGodNo posted:

You're a bona-fide goddamn loving moron. Yes I'm actually insulting you now.

You just did one of the following:

- Posted that you manage JWICS level networks to support sensitive operations. This combined with other poo poo you've posted personally (such as upcoming medical costs) have now made you a spearfishing target. You've also violated several DoD guidelines on minimizing your online footprint.


- You're lying.



I honestly hope you're lying because you're not the only DoD employee here.

Get a mod to delete your post and all quotes.

I'll be looking into this tomorrow when I get into work.




Now, back to talking about a game that will never come out.