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iajanus posted:Actually, I said that we were focusing on the flavour and not in any way trying to actually ferret out people acting like scum. I then said that I was suspicious of Quid, but not sure - I never implied that I actually had a different suspicion. I then, later, posted that I'd vote for Quid in the interest of securing a lynch because nobody had presented as a better option but I still wasn't 100% convinced. Was that a misreading of what I wrote or trying to put words in my mouth? You were casting doubt on the case currently on the table, but weren't making any contributions to scumhunting yourself. You were perfectly content to just go with the flow and not make any pushes, which to me says that you're scum just trying to go with the flow and not draw heat.
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Why were you opposed to the lynch when your flavour is counter to his role? The entire reason he said you were scum was that you weren't on his list of handhelds, which meant that either a) he was a liar b) your flavour is fake c) he didn't have all the handhelds.
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EXAKT Science posted:You were casting doubt on the case currently on the table, but weren't making any contributions to scumhunting yourself. You were perfectly content to just go with the flow and not make any pushes, which to me says that you're scum just trying to go with the flow and not draw heat. The case that was on the table was a bunch of posting about minutiae that wasn't making any headway. I wanted us to try to start moving in a more productive direction. Ironically we are now, just against me, which is nice on the level that we're now looking at more useful data but less nice insofar as I'm vanilla town so scum are likely enjoying me being the focus of attention. I agree with Taste's comment about the coincidental timing of merk popping into the thread seemingly apropos of nothing more than being mentioned for not doing so; it could be that merk has been busy just reading and only posting when able to but it's a little weird, much like the couple of people jumping in to support him and declare him town immediately afterwards with no real signs either way.
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Nov 16, 2015 00:57
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merk posted:No way. ##vote Taste Wanna explain this vote, merk?
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SirSamVimes posted:Why were you opposed to the lynch when your flavour is counter to his role? The entire reason he said you were scum was that you weren't on his list of handhelds, which meant that either a) he was a liar b) your flavour is fake c) he didn't have all the handhelds. I was opposed to the lynch because I of option c). I thought that he had possibly just misread his role insofar as he thought it was an exhaustive list so attacked me on that basis. I thought if that was the case then voting him out might not be the best move, especially relatively early on in the process when we were talking about this.
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Nov 16, 2015 01:03
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Merk has a... thing for me. It's an indication of his mindset more than his alignment.
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Nov 16, 2015 01:04
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Meaning, he's not really invested in this game if he's town, or he's lurking scum. It's unfortunate as he's a good town player and a poor scum one
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Nov 16, 2015 01:05
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If you wanted us to start moving in a more productive direction (than dunking the claimed 3P), why not make a case, or cast a vote, or really do anything other than just bemoan the current case?
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Nov 16, 2015 01:08
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MysticalMachineGun posted:As for Soag, his intentional(?) misspellings seem to be a bit gimmicky to me and gimmick posting screams scum. And yet, he's been pushing to vote on me pretty much every day but I don't think that makes him scum, just wrong. Thoughts: town, misguided. thouhgts: scum, scum tryign to frame me as gimmick postign is a scum tactic from earlier games and wont work a second time like switchign the controller to port 2 vs psyco mantits
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iajanus posted:The case that was on the table was a bunch of posting about minutiae that wasn't making any headway. I wanted us to try to start moving in a more productive direction. Ironically we are now, just against me, which is nice on the level that we're now looking at more useful data but less nice insofar as I'm vanilla town so scum are likely enjoying me being the focus of attention. I've noticed this too, merk and EXACT popping up when called on. but Quidnose admitted to lying and lying about a very scummy role. And you were saying hold on because what? that there was no more obvious target? that was not minutiae, it was a 3p lying about their role. then confessing to lying and then claiming to have an even more obtuse and scummy role. MysticalMachineGun posted:Wanna explain this vote, merk? quoting because merk will probably miss it. Tremendous Taste posted:Meaning, he's not really invested in this game if he's town, or he's lurking scum. Does this mean he is being poor scum by being bad town? should we lynch merk in your opinion?
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Nov 16, 2015 01:12
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Taste are you scum? y/n/m
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Nov 16, 2015 01:14
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Kommando posted:
No, I mean that he's a very good town player when he's engaged. When he draws scum, however, I think he's not nearly as strong a player. quote:should we lynch merk in your opinion? He's similar to soag in that it's probably better to wait on that. Maybe scum will be sporting and kill him off for us. CCKeane posted:Taste are you scum? n
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Nov 16, 2015 01:17
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Venom Soag posted:thouhgts: scum, scum https://youtu.be/2P5qbcRAXVk
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Kommando posted:I've noticed this too, merk and EXACT popping up when called on.  fine, I never said I made a good or well-thought out argument against him, I was just expressing my opinion and it came off a bit hamfistedly. In hindsight it wasn't particularly well framed or expressed but that's done now, for better or more likely worse. Moving on, since I'm looking down the barrel at the moment of being lynched and I (personally) know that I'm town, I'm looking at where the main impetus against me is coming from. Sure, I've come off pretty scummy, but a lot of thrust is coming from Exact who just popped up as you observed and shone a light on me out of relatively nowhere. Whilst the argument being made isn't objectively a bad one, from my end it looks like they're doing a bang-up job trying to get everyone looking at me just when it was being noticed that we had some absences.
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Nov 16, 2015 01:26
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Yeah yeah, if you're town how bout you give us some good parting reads to look at in light of your flip
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Ha ha, I just realised due to the QLD timezone I'll be at the gym for deadline today and Wednesday 
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Two hours until deadline btw.
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Nov 16, 2015 01:42
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Our town game is really being hamstrung by the amount of lurking going on. Would you honestly believe there's still 20 people in this game?
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then let's lighten the load. merk  is at worst scum, at best useless. ##vote merk
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Nov 16, 2015 01:55
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Kommando posted:then let's lighten the load. there are several players that are understandable scum candidates, it's not like we're pissing into the wind here
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Nov 16, 2015 01:57
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I've got half an hour to lay a vote. Happy to vote for merk for general uselessness, and I'm not feeling iajanus.
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Nov 16, 2015 02:01
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I gather that. I draw my gaze at iajanus, EXACT, bromp and bif, but only because hiip, merk and tbk have posted less times than Anidav the GM has and so I've got nothing to go on. and of those times merk has bumbled in and said that he's not reading the thread. while not precisely scummy, it's not helping town.
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Kommando posted:then let's lighten the load. Ehhhhh, I'm pretty sure you're off base here. I'm feeling Bif pretty hard.
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Nov 16, 2015 02:04
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useless quiet townies are still townies, don't take my irritation vote as saying quiet town = scum. but right now merk is a coin flip whether they turn up scum to me.
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CCKeane posted:Ehhhhh, I'm pretty sure you're off base here. can you convince anyone else to vote bif, because I'll vote bif. or are you just observing.
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I think I have a vibe on the flavour - note that the vanilla town that have been killed so far have all been consoles. Then note that our 3p was a phone. Is it possible the scum are all handhelds and the town are all consoles? Helps that I'm a vanilla town console, of course. To that end, we know Bif is a PSP - I've railed against her and Soag's posting and targetting me more leaning towards Soag, but she could be scum. ##vote Bifauxnen
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MysticalMachineGun posted:I think I have a vibe on the flavour - note that the vanilla town that have been killed so far have all been consoles. Adding to this the Xperia Play was also a 3P. So we have three dead vanilla town consoles, and two dead 3P phones/handhelds.
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bifs not high on my suspect list, but higher than mmg who's suspicion seems to be based on a flavor call from kashuno, who's untrustworthy at best, about a topic I certainly do not have the same level of sperg that Anidav has. I couldn't tell you what consoles from my pre teens had cartridge slots or discs.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:I think I have a vibe on the flavour - note that the vanilla town that have been killed so far have all been consoles. This is an awful flavour case.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:I think I have a vibe on the flavour - note that the vanilla town that have been killed so far have all been consoles.  This is super weak, thanks for going out on such a bad limb in case you somehow convince enough people to follow through a lynch on it though.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:
I do not agree with your speculation.
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SirSamVimes posted:This is an awful flavour case. It's speculation, but it matches with what we've seen so far. Nothing more, nothing less. If a town handheld had turned up then it would tear my whole theory down, of course.
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Lotta handhelds making GBS threads on my speculation, I see.
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Nov 16, 2015 02:15
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Non handheld making GBS threads on your speculation right here.
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Nov 16, 2015 02:15
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mmg, that bad reasoning has to be a townie with no info connecting the dots. you're ok.
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Alright, so I've put a theory out there and it's provoked some discussion at least. Anybody have any better ideas?
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Nov 16, 2015 02:17
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Anidav in MMG's head: "watch out dudes, I'm going to give the scum fakeclaims in case you all massclaim! It'll make things harder!". *gives.all the scum claims from the same faction so they can be easily lumped together*
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Try to steal my bit but you look like poo poo The 3P flips have been an Xperia Play and an iPhone. They're not handhelds/phones. They're phones. Handhelds have not been implicated. I suspect Anidav has made MS/XBox the villain.
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Kat have you got any reads that are not flavor based?
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Kat Delacour posted:The 3P flips have been an Xperia Play and an iPhone. They're not handhelds/phones. They're phones. Handhelds have not been implicated. Thanks for clarifying - I'm not familiar with the Xperia so I hedged my bets. quote:I suspect Anidav has made MS/XBox the villain. This would be hilarious but only if the XBone has another 3P role that can turn it into a town saviour or something, just because he seems to like that console 
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