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MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

feel the bern

Tab8715 posted:

Crap. It's already November, time to get cracking.

God drat it.

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evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl
Guess I should read the Jang one, too. Hope it's better than Ghori

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Walked posted:

Sitting 70-410 in 3hrs. Let's see how bad it is... I've heard it's a nightmare!

70-410 down; it's not so much hard as worded worded obtusely and full of intricate tidbits on commandline utilities.

Not too bad.

70-411 up next

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Can you still take the RHEL6 exams? I got a copy of Jang's v6 book for free from my old work but didn't really pursue anything.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl
Been gone for a year

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

evol262 posted:

Been gone for a year

Ah, figured. Oh well.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
msce or ccie?

is there a particular reason cbt nuggets has only created series on MSCE SQL Server (and one on Desktop Infrastructure) instead of Server Infrastructure?

EDIT: Nevermind. search was acting up for me! :downs:

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Nov 16, 2015

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


I landed a VOIP job knowing nothing about VOIP. My employer will pay for certs if I want them.

Any VOIP-specific stuff worth looking into?

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Zapf Dingbat posted:

I landed a VOIP job knowing nothing about VOIP. My employer will pay for certs if I want them.

Any VOIP-specific stuff worth looking into?

liberate tuteme ex inferis

But seriously if you're looking for certs your best bet is going to be CCNA voice -> CCNP voice. For actual practical knowledge bone up on SIP protocol messages, handshaking format, and get intimately familiar with wireshark and pcap. What brand/vendor/phones does this voip job prefer? Every brand has its own quirks.

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years

Walked posted:

70-410 down; it's not so much hard as worded worded obtusely and full of intricate tidbits on commandline utilities.

Not too bad.

70-411 up next

Grats! I did pretty bad on that and should start re-studying and take it again. What did you use to study for it?

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

CrazyLittle posted:

liberate tuteme ex inferis

But seriously if you're looking for certs your best bet is going to be CCNA voice -> CCNP voice. For actual practical knowledge bone up on SIP protocol messages, handshaking format, and get intimately familiar with wireshark and pcap. What brand/vendor/phones does this voip job prefer? Every brand has its own quirks.

CCNA/P Voice is on it's way out, best bet is the new CCNA/P Collaboration

EpicCareMadBitch
Dec 20, 2008
I'm gearing up to take my 801 A+ exam in the next month or two. Any thing I should really nail down? I have the majority of the information memorized, just worrying about some curveballs that they didn't include in the objective list.

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

oaok posted:

I'm gearing up to take my 801 A+ exam in the next month or two. Any thing I should really nail down? I have the majority of the information memorized, just worrying about some curveballs that they didn't include in the objective list.

There's nothing really difficult about the A+. Know what a computer is, know CompTIA's steps for troubleshooting (IE: poo poo that never gets used). Knowing RAM and CPU sockets is a pretty good idea too, but I didn't memorize any of that poo poo and passed without any trouble.

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Danith posted:

Grats! I did pretty bad on that and should start re-studying and take it again. What did you use to study for it?

10 years experience, a home lab, and the MS press books plus transcender. PM me and I can share some resources for you.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
Any ideas for an mcsa/e lab for someone with a poo poo computer?

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Race Realists posted:

Any ideas for an mcsa/e lab for someone with a poo poo computer?

Microsoft has some stuff https://mva.microsoft.com/
AWS has a free tier: https://aws.amazon.com/free/
Or get a decent computer at home, it doesnt take a ton of money to get a decent Hyper-V box. IBM TS140 can be had for sub-$300.

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


CrazyLittle posted:

liberate tuteme ex inferis

But seriously if you're looking for certs your best bet is going to be CCNA voice -> CCNP voice. For actual practical knowledge bone up on SIP protocol messages, handshaking format, and get intimately familiar with wireshark and pcap. What brand/vendor/phones does this voip job prefer? Every brand has its own quirks.

They use Snoms and Asterisk. They're also an ISP that uses a lot of Mikrotiks. Reading up on it after I posted, I saw Snom had some courses they'd probably pay for.

It's my first IT job at 33 years old, and I'm flying by the seat of my pants, but it's okay because at this company they kind of cowboy it. Not a lot of organization, standards, everything's an emergency, etc. I don't mind, though. Great way to learn while trying to put out fires. I wouldn't want to stay for too long though.

Funny thing relevant to this thread is that I got the job literally 2 weeks after getting my A+. I was ready to get a couple of more certs but they snatched me up.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Everything is an emergency? Start looking for a new job now man.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Walked posted:

Microsoft has some stuff https://mva.microsoft.com/
AWS has a free tier: https://aws.amazon.com/free/
Or get a decent computer at home, it doesnt take a ton of money to get a decent Hyper-V box. IBM TS140 can be had for sub-$300.

Microsoft Virtual Academy enough for anyone to pass the MCSA here? IS it enough (besides the usual like buying a book)?

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Race Realists posted:

Microsoft Virtual Academy enough for anyone to pass the MCSA here? IS it enough (besides the usual like buying a book)?

No idea; I didnt use it much. The question was specifically what to do if you dont have the hardware to work with. It's one resource of many :)

May or may not be enough on its own; but its something in addition to drilling the books and whatnot.

Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005

Zapf Dingbat posted:

this company they kind of cowboy it. Not a lot of organization, standards, everything's an emergency, etc.

Be careful. This is going to get old really fast.

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


Bigass Moth posted:

Everything is an emergency? Start looking for a new job now man.

No, I get it. Like I said, I wouldn't want to work here forever, but I'm cutting my teeth here and to tell you the truth it's loads better than the crappy mess of jobs I've had in the past. Plus I don't live in the most economically vibrant area so this is a "do it till I get out of town" situation.

Plus if they'll pay for certs that's good too.

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

70-411 down. 929/1000.


These Microsoft tests are a bitch. If I didn't have the background doing this every day I have no idea how someone would pass these.

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.

Walked posted:

70-411 down. 929/1000.


These Microsoft tests are a bitch. If I didn't have the background doing this every day I have no idea how someone would pass these.

My favorite questions are the Dism related ones, where they expect you to memorize the syntax and order of the commands.

Like you don't have a document or Google as a reference whenever you want to do that. Or a script you keep around for that purpose. I work with imaging constantly and I still couldn't tell you the command to mount a WIM off the top of my head, or install .Net 3.5 from the Sources/sxs directory.

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

My next question as I'm about to knock out the MCSA - is the MCSE worthwhile? How is it regarded these days in the field?

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Race Realists posted:

CCNA/P Voice is on it's way out, best bet is the new CCNA/P Collaboration

Well that blows because I doubt the collab cert will be even remotely as topical on SIP/voip as the older cert was (HAH)


Zapf Dingbat posted:

They use Snoms and Asterisk. They're also an ISP that uses a lot of Mikrotiks.

everything's an emergency, etc.

Sounds about right.

Stanos
Sep 22, 2009

The best 57 in hockey.

Zapf Dingbat posted:

No, I get it. Like I said, I wouldn't want to work here forever, but I'm cutting my teeth here and to tell you the truth it's loads better than the crappy mess of jobs I've had in the past. Plus I don't live in the most economically vibrant area so this is a "do it till I get out of town" situation.

Plus if they'll pay for certs that's good too.

Make sure there's no strings attached to those certs. Don't want to be stuck in a shithole of a job because of them.

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Walked posted:

My next question as I'm about to knock out the MCSA - is the MCSE worthwhile? How is it regarded these days in the field?

MCSA is a wrap.

74-409 was by far the easiest of the bunch.

edit: Just for kicks I fired up a practice test for 70-413. Goddamn.

Walked fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Nov 19, 2015

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Walked posted:

My next question as I'm about to knock out the MCSA - is the MCSE worthwhile? How is it regarded these days in the field?

It's not well-regarded as much as other vendors certifications but it's still very useful. If you're into Microsoft-oriented solutions, which you ought to be if you're perusing the certification.

Microsoft exams are desperate need of an overhaul. Everything about them, overlooking the fact the tests are multiple choice are just bad. Too many of the questions are of the sort "In which sub-menu would you open to do <$X>?" format when they should be asking "When you click on <$X> in a sub-menu" what does this do?

GiveUpNed
Dec 25, 2012
What voice/telephony certifications should I get? CCNA Voice? I'm asking as I work for an ISP in Business Tech Support, and next year they're bumping some of us up to Technical Analyst positions. We're rolling out a managed PBX system (virtually hosted) and I figure I should do everything I can to snag the position.

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Tab8715 posted:

It's not well-regarded as much as other vendors certifications but it's still very useful. If you're into Microsoft-oriented solutions, which you ought to be if you're perusing the certification.

Microsoft exams are desperate need of an overhaul. Everything about them, overlooking the fact the tests are multiple choice are just bad. Too many of the questions are of the sort "In which sub-menu would you open to do <$X>?" format when they should be asking "When you click on <$X> in a sub-menu" what does this do?

Yeah; going through the MCSA was a ton of that poo poo. Genuinely frustrating to have to pick menu options as to where I'd go first to fix obscure thing x.

The MCSE stuff looks mostly case-study-esque, but still a bit fluffy in nature. May or may not bother; tbd

Elucidarius
Oct 14, 2006

How difficult are the CCNP exams?

I'm currently a grad student taking a routing and switching course where we use study the guides as text books. The courses I've taken are my only real exposure to Cisco but I think I'm getting a decent handle on the material. I feel like I should take the exams just because I have a lab to text things in at school and an instructor to ask questions I may have.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

GiveUpNed posted:

What voice/telephony certifications should I get? CCNA Voice? I'm asking as I work for an ISP in Business Tech Support, and next year they're bumping some of us up to Technical Analyst positions. We're rolling out a managed PBX system (virtually hosted) and I figure I should do everything I can to snag the position.

CCNA Collaboration replaced Voice. It is all the old voice stuff plus video, whether you want it or not you have to do the video portions.

It sounds like CCNA Routing and Switching would be more useful in your position.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Elucidarius posted:

How difficult are the CCNP exams?

I'm currently a grad student taking a routing and switching course where we use study the guides as text books. The courses I've taken are my only real exposure to Cisco but I think I'm getting a decent handle on the material. I feel like I should take the exams just because I have a lab to text things in at school and an instructor to ask questions I may have.

Do you have the CCNA yet? From what I've heard it's the CCNA + real world scenarios, so it's more practical knowledge that you will need experience with to master.

Elucidarius
Oct 14, 2006

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Do you have the CCNA yet? From what I've heard it's the CCNA + real world scenarios, so it's more practical knowledge that you will need experience with to master.

I don't but that makes sense. I honestly just feel some strange obligation to take it because of the course but I think I'll maybe pass on that.

I'm guessing with some studying the CCNA shouldn't be too hard.

I'm kind of at a weird career juncture so I'm trying to figure out which certifications would benefit me most.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Do you have the CCNA yet? From what I've heard it's the CCNA + real world scenarios, so it's more practical knowledge that you will need experience with to master.

Basically this. Take all the stuff you needed to know for CCNA R/S and then instead of asking a question like "What does this do?" you get a paste dump of a show command on a couple devices and asked "Does this work? If not, why not?". There's some extra stuff to learn beyond that as well. Then there's also the third exam which is straight troubleshooting. BUT, it's not so bad really.

I also believe the CCNA is required in order to challenge the CCNP.

GiveUpNed
Dec 25, 2012

Bigass Moth posted:

CCNA Collaboration replaced Voice. It is all the old voice stuff plus video, whether you want it or not you have to do the video portions.

It sounds like CCNA Routing and Switching would be more useful in your position.

Thanks. Our IP phones will have a video camera portion on it (think Cisco Video phone) for customers who want to video conference. The IP phones connect to a Cisco L3 switch that connects via a vlan to a datacentre we own which provisions services to the customer. The pbx is a cloud based service. A Network Specialist (It's illegal to call them Engineers in my country) configures VLAN.

Baconroll
Feb 6, 2009

Baconroll posted:

On amazon.co.uk its next week, and Feb 2016 for amazon.com - Publishers often have a different dates for EU/US for non-technical books, but I've not seen it for one like this before. Assuming it arrives next week then I'll let you know !

Nope its not out today in Europe - Just got an email from amazon saying the Michael Jang Linux book has been delayed a month...

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
So I went to the Cincinnati VMUG User Conference last week and got a chance to sit through an NSX presentation. After a discussion with one of the VMware reps there I've decided that after I get my CompTIA Cloud+ cert (I'm taking it to renew my Security+ cert rather than try and get 50 CEUs since a lot of it seems review for me) I'm going to try and get the VCP-NV cert. Now I just need to find some decent resources over the next couple months.

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YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Daylen Drazzi posted:

So I went to the Cincinnati VMUG User Conference last week and got a chance to sit through an NSX presentation. After a discussion with one of the VMware reps there I've decided that after I get my CompTIA Cloud+ cert (I'm taking it to renew my Security+ cert rather than try and get 50 CEUs since a lot of it seems review for me) I'm going to try and get the VCP-NV cert. Now I just need to find some decent resources over the next couple months.

There are no books out for the NV yet and the newest version of the test is relatively new, so studying will be a bit of a challenge. You have to piece together information from various blogs that have material.

You'll also need to have a lab, and the resource requirements for the edge appliances, controllers and manager are somewhat steep for a home lab. You may also run into weird issues trying to do a nested lab, or at least I have, probably due to the many layers of encapsulation.

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