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TheCoach posted:Some people just no poo poo pulled pledges from Infinity:Battlescape kickstarter because they saw that Smart has backed it/doesn't hate it. The worst, and apparently really obsessed with Derek.  What next, start boycotting any food or drink that Derek enjoys?
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Nov 18, 2015 01:07
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Berious posted:Earl grey tastes like washing up liquid to me Five minutes or go home. D_Smart posted:Wait. Are you saying that nobody connected to the 38 Studios fiasco was jailed for fraud? Yeah, that's what I've been trying to hunt down. Schilling and a couple of the other guys had to liquidate a bunch of assets to throw Rhode Island 4.4 million to settle. The alternative would have been going to trial, and actually proving 'deliberate deception' is usually a bitch unless there's a specific attempt to cover it up. Mirificus posted:Deliberately preying on people with mental illness with the rationale of "helping" them was really gross. It's one of the bigger reasons that Scientologists don't like psychology. Competition.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:08
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Joking aside the crazy poo poo that Derek Smart has to put up with on twitter is unbelievable and it's been going on for months. The mentally ill are very into gaming it appears. https://twitter.com/WhiteknightNL/with_replies
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Nov 18, 2015 01:10
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AP posted:The mentally ill are very into
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Nov 18, 2015 01:12
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D_Smart posted:Not unless the morons running such a scam, single me out and attack me in media for calling them out on bullshit. Then it's on.  oh derekAP posted:Joking aside the crazy poo poo that Derek Smart has to put up with on twitter is unbelievable and it's been going on for months. The mentally ill are very into gaming it appears.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:13
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Amarcarts posted:Don't do a chargeback until a reasonable amount of time has passed. I think two weeks is reasonable. Chargeback is the easiest and most time efficient way to get a refund, even more so now CIG are dragging their heels at every turn in this regard. Unless you're happy bouncing emails back and forth and waiting a month or more.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:15
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D_Smart posted:Hollywood trends. We forget that there was a very well produced reality series called TNGS season 1. When's season 2 airing? I can't wait.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:15
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no_recall posted:We forget that there was a very well produced reality series called TNGS season 1. That's her, in the red dress.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:18
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Raskolnikov posted:How many threats of sexual violence? He's got a long way to catch up to Anita Sarkeesian. I don't know. Hopefully none as it's all about drama over pictures of spaceships?  Wulf is playing again. AP fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Nov 18, 2015 01:20
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D_Smart posted:As I posted earlier (also on Twitter), we have come to the conclusion that they may be setting up my sources to get busted. I have reached out to legal to get more details about what the implications are of using sourced information about a crowd-funded project and which has nothing to do with trade secrets and such. They had told me, weeks back, that there's nothing illegal about it (hence my tweet this morning) since I am reporting on a matter that is of the public interest (to the tune of $95m) and which I have been established (since July) as a public opposition of. It's crazy, but seriously, there are laws about this poo poo. Imagine if Apple, Google or any of those companies, went after people who leaked info about projects. Though this is different. I'm glad that you're attempting to make sure that your sources don't get caught in the shitstorm. I've got deep respect for anyone stuck in a lovely job like that who is willing to try to bring poo poo to light.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:25
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A Neurotic Jew posted:Karl what do you make of all this?????  Also appears proud on Twitter that CIG is obfuscating their finances with their profusion of companies.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:25
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AP posted:I don't know. Hopefully none as it's all about drama over pictures of spaceships? What is the reference to Alganon? Googling it only gets me images of a lovely wow clone (and holy poo poo is it a clone)
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Nov 18, 2015 01:26
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CrazyTolradi posted:CIG weren't reasonable in wasting his time in the whole "checking with my manager" when it's known that they've been issuing refunds regardless. After they offered me half the value of my account, I asked why I couldn't get a full refund and quoted the polygon article where croberts said "We don't publicize it, but when people reach out to us and talk to us in a rational manner, in most cases we've refunded them," and "We don't want people to be part of the project if they're not happy." so customer support said: quote:This is all done on a discretionary basis and we are not refunding everyone who emails because of personal hardships and nor are we obligated to. It sounds like you are now threatening us? what the gently caress ugh i'm such an idiot for funding this trainwreck anyway chargeback tomorrow if they don't refund my whole account thanks derek you're my only friend
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Nov 18, 2015 01:26
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CrazyTolradi posted:CIG weren't reasonable in wasting his time in the whole "checking with my manager" when it's known that they've been issuing refunds regardless. I'm kind of torn on the issue. I think it's important to be reasonable because then if the person resorts to a chargeback the bank is more likely to side with them. It seems like CIG isn't having a lot of chargebacks brought against them because they'll cave in and do a refund when someone threatens. This means that it's likely people will get their money back but also probably that very few actual chargebacks have been filed against the company so they aren't on the banks' radars as scammy. Also: PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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Nov 18, 2015 01:26
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ideate posted:After they offered me half the value of my account, I asked why I couldn't get a full refund and quoted the polygon article where croberts said "We don't publicize it, but when people reach out to us and talk to us in a rational manner, in most cases we've refunded them," and "We don't want people to be part of the project if they're not happy."  what in the gently caress.who wrote that email asking if you're threatening them, does it say?
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Nov 18, 2015 01:28
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Mirificus posted:Please don't forget about the Dark Knights: Edit: lol did it just disappear?
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Nov 18, 2015 01:30
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Deki posted:What is the reference to Alganon? Googling it only gets me images of a lovely wow clone (and holy poo poo is it a clone) I dunno anything about it http://massivelyop.com/2015/06/01/derek-smart-defends-alganon-against-review-bombing/
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Nov 18, 2015 01:31
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AP posted:Joking aside the crazy poo poo that Derek Smart has to put up with on twitter is unbelievable and it's been going on for months. The mentally ill are very into gaming it appears. Yeah, that clown and EVERYONE who follows him, are blocked.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:32
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A Neurotic Jew posted:
They all say quote:Best, sweet
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Nov 18, 2015 01:32
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ideate posted:After they offered me half the value of my account, I asked why I couldn't get a full refund and quoted the polygon article where croberts said "We don't publicize it, but when people reach out to us and talk to us in a rational manner, in most cases we've refunded them," and "We don't want people to be part of the project if they're not happy." Screenshot that and post it please, holy lol.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:33
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Sandi that's pretty confrontational for a customer service email don't you think?
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Nov 18, 2015 01:34
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Omi-Polari posted:My, what a healthy and rational video game community. The Dark Knight Rises: 
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Nov 18, 2015 01:36
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D_Smart posted:It's crazy, but seriously, there are laws about this poo poo. Imagine if Apple, Google or any of those companies, went after people who leaked info about projects. Though this is different. Apple has gone after leakers, repeatedly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_v._Does (OS leak) - http://www.macworld.com/article/1043851/lawsuit.html And of course, the iPhone 4: http://www.businessinsider.com/brian-hogan-lost-iphone-4-reddit-2013-6 In the two cases where property was stolen, they won settlements, in the two cases they've gone after internal leaking employees, they lost thanks to shield laws. It was eventually noted they caught the leaks going to AppleInsider thanks to their 'Worldwide Loyalty Team' - http://appleinsider.com/articles/09/12/15/apples_worldwide_loyalty_team_ensures_secrets_stay_secret
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Nov 18, 2015 01:37
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Nov 18, 2015 01:38
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A buddy was just informed that they would refund half of his account. They asked him to choose which pledges he would like to have refunded. Maybe someone recently read Sophie's Choice during a community interaction retreat. He's going to talk to his bank tomorrow, though he issued an email asking after this policy.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:38
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Deki posted:What is the reference to Alganon? Googling it only gets me images of a lovely wow clone (and holy poo poo is it a clone) overhyped over promised MMO that a small studio went bankrupt making and released in a barely functional mess Derek Smart buys said mess and keeps it running, and even improves it to be much more functional than it was. Because he is an expert on messes.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:39
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AP posted:I don't know. Hopefully none as it's all about drama over pictures of spaceships? Yeah, someone already DM'ed me that entire exchange earlier; and I've messaged Keith as well.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:40
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A Neurotic Jew posted:Sandi that's pretty confrontational for a customer service email don't you think? I was kind of wondering if it's her since I'm "Concierge" and I've seen her sign emails with the "Best," thing. gently caress I'm an idiot concierge good christ
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Nov 18, 2015 01:40
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Dusty Lens posted:A buddy was just informed that they would refund half of his account. Strangely enough CIG also offered me half my account back. What is with "half" and CIG?
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Nov 18, 2015 01:40
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It's gotta be Sandi, no one else on customer service would take this personally. I am dying.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:42
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Raskolnikov posted:Strangely enough CIG also offered me half my account back. What is with "half" and CIG? CIG did the same with me. It just happened to be nearly the dollar exact "value" of the pledges in my hangar and more than I expected to receive so I had no trouble pulling the trigger. Originally it was a quiet shove out the door. Then it was nothing with gifted credit. Now it's just half. If game development went at a 20th the speed of CIG CS refund policy changes this thread would be centered around discussing ideal ship setups, how much fun it was popping the cork on someone's Constellation and the latest hilarious PACT fuckup. What could have been.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:43
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A Neurotic Jew posted:It's gotta be Sandi, no one else on customer service would take this personally. I am dying. It could also be Lesnick's wife? She strikes me as being quite arrogant and spiteful from watching a few of the CG streams.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:44
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Mirificus posted:I think they took it down in shame but not to worry;
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Nov 18, 2015 01:45
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A Neurotic Jew posted:It's gotta be Sandi, no one else on customer service would take this personally. I am dying. It seems like the CIG customer service formula for refunds is 1) Ignore initial request 2) "Talk to manager" 3) Offer half (new?) 4) You're threatening us? (what)
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Nov 18, 2015 01:46
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AP posted:Joking aside the crazy poo poo that Derek Smart has to put up with on twitter is unbelievable and it's been going on for months. The mentally ill are very into gaming it appears. Holy poo poo I didn't realize that MY BOY Stew360 is going full white knight for Star Citizen. God bless his crazy Quebecois rear end.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:47
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fuctifino posted:It could also be Lesnick's wife? She strikes me as being quite arrogant and spiteful from watching a few of the CG streams. I honestly have never heard her say a word on any of those shows. I am lolling either way.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:48
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Ghostlight posted:Because this is Star Citizen I literally cannot figure out if the Dark Knight Rises on this photo each time it is posted is what a crazy Star Citizen posted with it to mirror their stupid as gently caress White Knight label, or an ITT joke about mass shootings, or both. Mirificus posted:Honest question: Was the Star Citizen Dark Knight thread too inappropriate?
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Nov 18, 2015 01:50
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ideate posted:After they offered me half the value of my account, I asked why I couldn't get a full refund and quoted the polygon article where croberts said "We don't publicize it, but when people reach out to us and talk to us in a rational manner, in most cases we've refunded them," and "We don't want people to be part of the project if they're not happy." "No, I wasn't threatening you before but now either you refund my poo poo by the end of this week or it's chargeback time." Unfucking believable.
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That guy either gets his shoes wet a lot and doesn't dry them or spends long periods on his knees.
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