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Sarsapariller posted:The weird binary "It's perfect or it's a scam" of opinions is failing to address the actual reality here- it's not perfect, in fact it's quite loose for what it is, but it's obviously not a scam either. I hate doing one of those "Truth lies in the middle" wishy-washy bullshit copouts, but it's the objective reality here and I feel like that deserves some acknowledgement. CIG is quite incompetent and probably shouldn't be trusted with anyone's money, let alone millions from overhyped, lonely men in the throes of their midlife crises. I think it's still quite likely that they will fail before they finish the game, with layoffs and egos being the biggest contributors. But playing "God of the gaps" with a buggy release is a mug's game. Pointing out each bug in a test build even as they're fixed within 24 hours (as I predicted yesterday about the crash bug) just makes you look out of touch. There's still plenty to criticize, all over this project, but can we also just let go the "2.0 is never going out... okay it came out but it's unplayable... okay it's playable but-" argument? It's clear that within a couple months it'll be playable and rolled out to everyone, just as Arena Commander was.  My work is done here 
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Romes128 posted:im the multi million dollar fps in the space simulator game ~immersion~
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Should I be potentially worried about December 2015 rolling in? That would technically reach the end of their "12 months" clause in their original ToS. I'm not too well versed in legal mumbo-jumbo, but would backers be held to the ToS at the time of their purchase, or would they be held to the ToS as it currently exists? I just don't want all the poo poo to hit the fan, some big lawsuit hits, and CIG goes tits up before I can get my refund processed. In other news Overwatch is doing their stress tests and I've had more fun with that real, existing game than SC itself (excluding these threads) has ever provided.
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Raskolnikov posted:And I will give them my well, you being lucid and sane is alright funding anyone with a project like SC in mind isn't so bad, though even if these crazy, minimum wage earning nerds pour a large portion of their income into the crowdfunding, they're not being deceived. they're very well aware they're buying jpegs, meanwhile the game they want to play is coming along just fine due to it. there are far less capable and shadier developer-doctor-lawyer-accountants out there, getting money from people and not delivering anything worthwhile
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SirPhoebos posted:So did they ever say if SQ42 cutscenes were skippable? I really want to know the answer to this. Any other game out there and this is a perfectly acceptable question that large numbers of people will really want to know the answer to. In Star Citizen the questioner would be immediately dammed for launching a comprehensive and piercing criticism of the entire project. Whoever made the point about new people getting a hard time from Citizens for asking newbie questions had it right.
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My bet is that the gameplay sections are skippable, I mean with such an a-list cast, the gameplay is the secondary part.
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RuckusRouser posted:
is she auditioning to play a housewife?
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Jimb posted:Hiring unqualified people to pull executive salaries from a crowdfunded project into a single household seems reason enough. This kind of conflict of interest needs to be brought to the attention of gamers everywhere. It's a scandal like Watergate what should we call it?
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 Daily sales are going to help a lot, but 500k a day until the end of November is a hard ask. They haven't sold the phoenix jpg for ages so that day should easily break it.
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Eonwe posted:i guess im asking, have they done any of the actual hard work, or have they just spent $90 million making a less compelling and glitchier version of Elite dangerous without the scale of Elite Dangerous Daztek posted:yes D_Smart posted:No, they haven't.
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AP posted:Daily sales are going to help a lot, but 500k a day until the end of November is a hard ask. They haven't sold the phoenix jpg for ages so that day should easily break it. Who the gently caress is paying them that 500K?
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Alan Smithee posted:This kind of conflict of interest needs to be brought to the attention of gamers everywhere. It's a scandal like Watergate StarGate!
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Bootcha, I know it takes time to properly edit and put together, and I respect that due process entirely, but please make that last vid ASAP so I can just forget about this shithole of a thread for the next several months, until Lesnick dies of heart failure/critical glaucoma, Sandi appears with a bald head underneath a cap, because she tore it all out in a fit of psychotic rage, and CR posts a vid all coked up from the caymans and every Star Shitizen crowdfunds assassins to hunt him down, tia.
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CrazyLoon posted:Bootcha, I know it takes time to properly edit and put together, and I respect that due process entirely, but please make that last vid ASAP so I can just forget about this shithole of a thread for the next several months, until Lesnick dies of heart failure/critical glaucoma, Sandi appears with a bald head underneath a cap, because she tore it all out in a fit of psychotic rage, and CR posts a vid all coked up from the caymans and every Star Shitizen crowdfunds assassins to hunt him down, tia. this is prolly the best thread on the forums so gently caress you also, agreed
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skaboomizzy posted:It's like if everyday you sent your not-very-bright little brother to the store with $1 to bring back some gum. Day after day, week after week, month after month, he comes back empty-handed. No money, no gum, no explanations; just a big dumb smile. Pages back, but I had to quote this good post.
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Palladium posted:Who the gently caress is paying them that 500K? nerds with credit cards
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CrazyLoon posted:Bootcha, I know it takes time to properly edit and put together, and I respect that due process entirely, but please make that last vid ASAP so I can just forget about this shithole of a thread for the next several months, until Lesnick dies of heart failure/critical glaucoma, Sandi appears with a bald head underneath a cap, because she tore it all out in a fit of psychotic rage, and CR posts a vid all coked up from the caymans and every Star Shitizen crowdfunds assassins to hunt him down, tia. He already made it chief.
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Nicholas posted:I'd like to formally move the CIG hate goal posts and say that the real fun begins when star citizen finally gets released an people have to come face to face with whatever still born "game" CIG manages to vibrate out the door. At some point a lot of people are going to realize that SC doesn't live up to the near the infinite potential it had in their minds, and they have nothing to show for the $1000 / $5000 / $30000 they spent on a video game. I just don't see them officially getting out of the pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha phase even once they're for all intents "done". Once they ship they really have to stop selling handcrafted premium artisanal jpegs. That's a hard racket to give up when you've made 1/10 of a billion doing it. Shitizens can cling onto the hope of them patching in the fun forever.
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Berious posted:I just don't see them officially getting out of the pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha phase even once they're for all intents "done". Once they ship they really have to stop selling handcrafted premium artisanal jpegs. That's a hard racket to give up when you've made 1/10 of a billion doing it. They gotta make money somehow after the "game" releases Remember all the backers already get a copy of the game, so they're not gonna generate much sales from the game itself. Gotta keep selling ships
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I am here just for the  and drama, and it's drat entertaining. Derek, you seem crazy in a good way, keep on doing the good work, buddy!Loiosh, I appreciate your enthusiasm. I hope you eventually find what you're looking for. Have you ever played X3 Terran Conflict by any chance? I remember doing some passenger shuttling and other stuff you might be into. The game has some flaws all right, but it does a lot of things I like. For the record, I've played a bit of Elite: Dangerous and liked it too. Frontier are going about the business of game development the right way, and not pouring cash into mo-cap studios etc.. I would not put money into SC before I see a finished product, but if people want to throw money into ponzi-schemes and "visions", they're responsible for their own decisions. If anybody reading this realises that they are one of the whales, seek help. Invest in some therapy instead. Seriously, god drat. By the way, it would be best if people would avoid getting into the territory of talking about sexual behaviour and marital issues here. I wouldn't care what this Sandi character does or doesn't do, it's just that women in general get slandered too much and dragged through the mud in the game industry. Not trying to white knight anybody, just be a little bit civil, that's all. This might be something awful, but goons can be goons without sinking below the navel, can't they? Well, most of them anyways. There's plenty of laughs to be had here without that poo poo. I find this all hilarious to watch, but I hope something eventually comes out of this mess. Whatever it turns out to be, it's been good entertainment for a lot of goons at least. Cults that troll themselves unwittingly are pure gold. Peace.
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We don't make fun of sandi because she's a woman We make fun of her cause she's dumb as gently caress
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Romes128 posted:We don't make fun of sandi because she's a woman She might well be, for all I know. I'm not against making fun of her or anybody else, it's just the way some goons go about it that's a bit uncool. There's just so much better material here for making fun of than speculating about who she sleeps with. I don't know. To each their own. Just posting my opinion, that's all.
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Palladium posted:Who the gently caress is paying them that 500K? Streamers, Auditors, Bitcoin enthusiasts and the mentally ill with poor impulse control. The same people as usual, the exact same people, giving more.
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Romes128 posted:We don't make fun of sandi because she's a woman I just make fun of her because she lacks a Y chromosome.
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SlightlyMad posted:She might well be, for all I know. I'm not against making fun of her or anybody else, it's just the way some goons go about it that's a bit uncool. There's just so much better material here for making fun of than speculating about who she sleeps with. I don't know. To each their own. Just posting my opinion, that's all. Don't be so sensitive. What are you a woman or something
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SlightlyMad posted:By the way, it would be best if people would avoid getting into the territory of talking about sexual behaviour and marital issues here. I wouldn't care what this Sandi character does or doesn't do, it's just that women in general get slandered too much and dragged through the mud in the game industry. Not trying to white knight anybody, just be a little bit civil, that's all. This might be something awful, but goons can be goons without sinking below the navel, can't they? Well, most of them anyways. There's plenty of laughs to be had here without that poo poo. Honestly I was just hoping for some stupid overreaction in the same vein of "look at my diplomas", "look at all the languages i speak", "look at all these black people we have". Hopefully not in the form of "someone" getting fired but of an eye rolling increase in public demonstrations of affection or something in that vein. These people have proved time and time again that they are easier to play than loving maracas but you have a point that maybe this is not worth the laughs.
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MeLKoR posted:an eye rolling increase in public demonstrations of affection or something in that vein. gently caress you for just making me imagine a Chris Roberts sex tape
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MeLKoR posted:Honestly I was just hoping for some stupid overreaction in the same vein of "look at my diplomas", "look at all the languages i speak", "look at all these black people we have". Hopefully not in the form of "someone" getting fired but of an eye rolling increase in public demonstrations of affection or something in that vein. Whoa there buddy How do you manage to polish that white armor without the paint chipping?
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Romes128 posted:Whoa there buddy Hey I'm not telling anyone else what to do, just that I won't continue doing it. These people are lolcows, no need to reach for the low hanging fruit.
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MeLKoR posted:Hey I'm not telling anyone else what to do, just that I won't continue doing it. These people are lolcows, no need to reach for the low hanging fruit. I was joking I know shitizens are stupid as gently caress and I lol at them all the time
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FactsAreUseless posted:Why are you posting Doom 3 video in this thread? It's from Star Citizen, the wonderful new game from Chris Roberts.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0369q64mM8 AP fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Nov 21, 2015 |
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That Vanguard looks awesome. Good thing I got my refund because they're clearly going to nerd it and still release some better jpeg soon.
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Why does it always look like the game is structurally held together with tape. I didn't know you could do that with video games. Like how does it compile and not do what it is programmed to do? Are they copy/pasting example code from the internet in places where it looks like it should go and hoping for the best?
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