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MourningView posted:He's really bad at actually playing basketball and chad ford needs to chill He hasn't looked good at all so far and it's really weird
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Nov 19, 2015 10:40
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Ross Angeles posted:He hasn't looked good at all so far and it's really weird He was bad last year too.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:56
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not really
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Nov 19, 2015 17:27
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He averaged like 5 and 2 last year on pretty crappy percentages for a 6'10" dude and struggled to get minutes.
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Nov 19, 2015 17:45
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Yeah but on the other hand he goes to SDSU. How can we reconcile these two things
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Nov 19, 2015 19:02
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you mean the college that has produced such greats as KAWHI LEONARD
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Nov 19, 2015 19:14
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I'm pretty sure Chad Ford is the biggest reason anyone thinks of Pope as a big prospect right now and he has a tendency pump up toolsy guys when it's early in the draft cycle, even if they haven't done much on the court to back it up. See also: Chris Walker.
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Nov 19, 2015 19:24
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MourningView posted:He averaged like 5 and 2 last year on pretty crappy percentages for a 6'10" dude and struggled to get minutes. Can't imagine why the coaches decided to ease him into the game after not having played competitive basketball for two and a half years. But you're right. He sucks, dunno why he was recruited
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Nov 19, 2015 20:54
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That is the reason he is bad but it doesn't make his current badness less true.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:59
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His current badness is baffling because he isn't even playing defense now. He did that last year.
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Nov 19, 2015 21:10
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What are Denzel Valentine's draft prospects looking like? What position do you put an even smaller backcourt version of Draymond Green at?
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Nov 22, 2015 04:48
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Ben Simmons looks real good.
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Nov 24, 2015 01:49
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euphronius posted:Ben Simmons looks real good.
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euphronius posted:Ben Simmons looks real good. It's stupid to be saying this really but he looks lebron-like in the way he can hold the ball for a second up towards halfcourt, see the whole floor, and fire off a perfect pass that finds an often completely surprised teammate
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Nov 24, 2015 03:11
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It's also nice to see a ridiculously good Freshman who's not at Duke or Kentucky.
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Nov 24, 2015 03:13
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Crazy Ted posted:It's also nice to see a ridiculously good Freshman who's not at Duke or Kentucky. oh boy are you ever not going to want to click this link http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2016/order/true
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Nov 24, 2015 06:04
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Cool Buff Man posted:It's stupid to be saying this really but he looks lebron-like in the way he can hold the ball for a second up towards halfcourt, see the whole floor, and fire off a perfect pass that finds an often completely surprised teammate He looks like he has the natural ability to turn into a good shooter. That's the last piece. Jesus he is a good prospect.
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Nov 24, 2015 13:57
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EvanTH posted:oh boy are you ever not going to want to click this link http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2016/order/true 
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Nov 24, 2015 17:52
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Ben Simmons going coast to coast through traffic and finishing with one of those new fangled "slamed dunks" https://vine.co/v/izgMvahlhBA He went for 21-20-7 in a 1 point loss to Marquette, who isn't a great team.
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Nov 24, 2015 18:13
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PotatoJudge posted:Ben Simmons going coast to coast through traffic and finishing with one of those new fangled "slamed dunks" I've only really watched him for one game and my thoughts are his skills are great, but he doesn't really know what to do on offense if he doesn't have the ball; he just kind of stands around. On defense, there is a lack of effort/awareness off-ball and he just gives up on trailing his man if they are able to get by him. He doesn't fill areas well and just kinda sits there unless his man does something. Basically, young player things. I have seen some players never grow out of those bad habits, however, and that worries me. Still an absolute stud of a prospect.
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Nov 24, 2015 18:32
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The passing is as advertised, and the rest of his skill set seems lot farther along than it was supposed to be. He's a lot more smooth with the ball in his hands than I thought he'd be based on the little bit I'd seen before, which is a nice surprise. If he tightens up his jumper he can probably play on the wing, which is good because he can't really play in the post right now for the most part and is really skinny. His defense kinda sucks aside from being able to block some shots, but that's always slow. Same with the not being able to play off the ball thing. He hasn't really had to very much.
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Nov 24, 2015 18:52
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Brandon Ingram looks like a loving animated skeleton. It looks like if you pushed against his chest it'd turn to dust.
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Nov 24, 2015 19:40
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In terms of young guys, I saw LeBron in his senior year of high school and it was obvious that he was a man among boys (literally) then, and he didn't give two shits about defense, so giving demerits to Simmons on that account is kinda whatevs. Other than Davis due to his shot-blocking, who was the last big-time guy to hit the draft and be known for their D anyway?
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Nov 24, 2015 19:56
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MKG? I guess it depends on what the cutoff for bigtime is
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C. Everett Koop posted:In terms of young guys, I saw LeBron in his senior year of high school and it was obvious that he was a man among boys (literally) then, and he didn't give two shits about defense, so giving demerits to Simmons on that account is kinda whatevs. Other than Davis due to his shot-blocking, who was the last big-time guy to hit the draft and be known for their D anyway? It happens a lot with big guys. The most notable example post-LeBron would be Oden in terms of draft hype, but it was also true of Karl Anthony Towns way back uhhhh...last year. And for wings Wiggins was probably farther along defensively in college than he was offensively, although it's been the opposite so far in the pros.
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MourningView posted:It happens a lot with big guys. The most notable example post-LeBron would be Oden in terms of draft hype, but it was also true of Karl Anthony Towns way back uhhhh...last year. And for wings Wiggins was probably farther along defensively in college than he was offensively, although it's been the opposite so far in the pros. Yeah, the last two #1s were either going to be primary defensive player (KAT) or a two-way wing (Wiggins). In the NBA offense is generally more valuable than defense (which is why Carmelo has made way more money than Tony Allen), though a defensive rim-protector is generally pretty hyped. And Wiggins defense has been pretty solid. Not really off the charts but he has been above average. The problem is the rest of the wing defenders on the Wolves are weak so its pretty easy to work around him.
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EvanTH posted:oh boy are you ever not going to want to click this link http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2016/order/true you weren't kidding
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Nov 24, 2015 21:50
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EvanTH posted:oh boy are you ever not going to want to click this link http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2016/order/true Kansas's highest ranked player is at 99? The hell happened there?
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Nov 25, 2015 00:45
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The way he's going right now, we might just have to create a dedicated Ben Simmons thread. 21/20/7 last night. Today: 0/4 shooting with 2 points, but he has 13 boards, 9 assists, three steals, and two blocks with 6+ minutes left.
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Nov 25, 2015 00:58
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The one thing that really stands out for me is his awareness of where everyone is on the court (including himself). Now, if he can use that for something other than just passing...
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Kibner posted:The one thing that really stands out for me is his awareness of where everyone is on the court (including himself). Now, if he can use that for something other than just passing...
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euphronius posted:Huge gamble for #1 that he learns to shoot. I think less so given that there isn't really anything approaching a sure thing behind him (with the caveat that I know literally nothing about Dragan Bender beyond that he has a really dope name)
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Nov 25, 2015 01:26
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Tim Quarterman looks like a solid second round pick.
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Nov 25, 2015 01:27
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Kibner posted:Tim Quarterman looks like a solid second round pick.
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"1st 2nd 3rd or 4th" Quarterman's NBA nickname will be dependent upon his clutch-ness
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Who is this dragon bender and how do I hire him to serve my realmCrazy Ted posted:It's also nice to see a ridiculously good Freshman who's not at Duke or Kentucky. What pisses me off isn't all the 99 rated recruits who inevitably play for Duke or Kentucky, it's the mother fuckers who are rated 70-90 who would rather sit on the bench at Duke or Kentucky than start for another program. Doltos fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Nov 25, 2015 02:04
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C. Everett Koop posted:Kansas's highest ranked player is at 99? The hell happened there? A whole lot of swing and misses 
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euphronius posted:Huge gamble for #1 that he learns to shoot. Would a 6'10" Ricky Rubio (that can stay healthy) be worth the number one pick? I say yes. Caveat, I don't watch college hoops so have never seen this guy play.
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