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EminusSleepus posted:the lack of kool-aid of this backer is disturbing! When reading this Star Citizen stuff and laughing at the crazy prices people paid for ships it's worth remembering that until recently the 2nd hand ship market was very active. So if you got interested in Star Citizen after August 2014 or couldn't afford a Phoenix during the sale, CIG encouraged you to believe you had missed the chance to own a spaceship with a hot tub. Therefore you assume that to really stay clean in space your best option was to buy it on the 2nd hand market and you might want to do it fast before the price goes to the moon. So the Phoenix was selling there for $500-600. The normal guys who bought during the sale might believe they were deceived, the guys who bought on the 2nd hand market actually lost money too, if they are really enraged and have lost all faith in CIG, consider, no refunds of even the lower price, it was a gifted item and you can't even sell it without selling the full account and nobody wants full accounts. Triple screwed.
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Anyone want to learn about how to write Star Citizen fan fiction? I assure you that narrator of this audio guide has a very pleasant and soothing voice. Star Citizen Lore - Audio version of Star Citizens Writer's Guide
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Has Lando or  issued any pretzel logic responses to those who are upset about the sale? That's always my favorite part.
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Nov 25, 2015 01:58
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A Neurotic Jew posted:Has Lando or Apart from Lando effort posting a couple of days ago about the Phoenix, they're ignoring, sale is too important. Anything they say will just draw more attention to it.
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A Neurotic Jew posted:Has Lando or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2GwrR-4Q9E&t=46s peter gabriel fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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AP posted:When reading this Star Citizen stuff and laughing at the crazy prices people paid for ships it's worth remembering that until recently the 2nd hand ship market was very active. So if you got interested in Star Citizen after August 2014 or couldn't afford a Phoenix during the sale, CIG encouraged you to believe you had missed the chance to own a spaceship with a hot tub. Therefore you assume that to really stay clean in space your best option was to buy it on the 2nd hand market and you might want to do it fast before the price goes to the moon. I used to game /r/starcitizen_trades like D3 AH. Made myself quite a few  . But with the unmelt and CCU options coming from their own store, i think its in CIG's interest to ensure money starts flowing to them.
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Breetai posted:Dear citizens reading this thread. Agreed 
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no_recall posted:I used to game /r/starcitizen_trades like D3 AH. Made myself quite a few The rarity thing helped them though, people felt better about spending $600 on a 890 Jump believing if they changed their mind they'd be able to sell it later for $1000. That's something that's hard to put a value on of a benefit to CIG, bitcoin is the closest comparison (yet again). CIG is trashing the market now, absolutely killing it but it was dying anyway as people figured out everything except the scythe and idris m would be sold again no matter how much CIG hinted it wouldn't. August/September 2013, people thought they wouldn't sell any of the normal limited ships like the m50 and 350R again, $100 350R was selling for $280. November 2013 they sold it again and highest it ever went to after that was ~$180, they've sold it several times since, sold it yesterday, selling it again this whole weekend, people don't even cause a fuss about it anymore. Anyone who bought on the 2nd hand market got screwed in some way and thousands did.
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Whenever I Saw Your Ship played on his jukebox my friend would say, "I saw your ship" and I would get confused and think he just flew by me and I didn't notice or something. I'm gay.
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The orchestra they used is this one: http://www.capellen.cz/english/5M_01.htm I tried googling for a rough price to hire them, but came up blank. Being Czech based, they are a hell of a lot cheaper than using a Hollywood studio, but they still won't come cheap.
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Agrajag posted:what the hell is the difference between all those? Constellation Taurus: $150 Scrub Tier Model. Only one turret, no parasite fighter, more cargo space because cargo is for scrubs. Possibly may have ability to open up the back. Possibly may have ability to have more turrets added, who knows what you think we figured this poo poo out? Constellation Andromeda: Former "space superiority fighter" now jack-of-all-trades "Multi-Function" Chris Roberts Mary Sue Spectacular. It has cargo! It has turrets! It can carry forty eight loving missiles on these badass swing out arms! It has massive gimballed guns! It carries a snub fighter! It's everything you want in a ship and more! Only $225! For that price holy poo poo buy two! Constellation Aquila: $250 exploration variant. Notable for having a round cockpit instead of whatever the gently caress the other ones have. Only one turret because the other is replaced by a sensor package thingy. Carries a rover because why the gently caress not. Has more fuel... somehow. No parasite fighter. Constellation Phoenix: $350 The best part about the Phoenix is that most spergs don't give a poo poo about the luxury interior, and have repeatedly asked CIG if they can strip out the crap and still keep the better stats. The reason for this is because, back when this poo poo was sold to people, CIG established that certain things were locked to the hull and could never change. Most notably hardpoints and power plant maximums. So a lot of people, seeing the Constellation as the Mary Sue Millennium Serenity Enterprise, saw the stats of the Phoenix and knew that if they wanted the BEST Mary Sue Millenium Serenity Enterprise that they would have to shell out the big bucks. That CIG made the best Constellation a luxury variant is perfectly indicative of just how tone deaf they are. Or how nefariously ruthless they are at extracting nerd funds. Probably the latter.
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Nov 25, 2015 02:23
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Wait wait Some dude lurked SA for 4 whole years just to make his first posts be a meltdown over this lovely-rear end console-as-gently caress space game? And I missed it?
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 "If you haven't seen this part of the game it will blow your mind!" Plays some pre-recorded messages in the spooky, empty space-station, enters the space-elevator, and gets teleported a mile away from the station. "okay" "I must go, my people need me" *crash*
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Nov 25, 2015 02:26
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Will there be controls to keep undesireables out of the Million Mile High Club? I can accept a black man as a door bouncer as long as he is will dressed and trained to be congenial. But I don't want them in the club itself. Especially if they don't shave "down there".
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Wait wait You're going to need to wait another two full pages to watch someones life collapse before your very eyes. You poor bastard.
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Dusty Lens posted:You're going to need to wait another two full pages to watch someones life collapse before your very eyes. I am outraged and disappointed
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Wait wait u think this is loving game m8? Chris Robgbers is playing long game. He has infiltraitored u goons at all level. bddsse ackbar, Bddsse Ackbar, BDSSE ACKBAR!!!!!
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Raticus79 posted:People are still getting frequent crashes, but the option to go straight from the menu to the Crusader station without needing to go through the hangar speeds things up at least. Yeah, that didn't last long. Eventually, like "helmet-gate", everyone will see just how much time and money has been wasted on all poo poo like this. Because fidelity.
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Nov 25, 2015 02:48
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peter gabriel posted:Don't let them win! No. He's not posting as much because my guess is, he's a classy guy who got his money back and is just fine with it.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Wait wait me too and it feels bad
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Didn't even realize those were his first posts. Gonna have to up my rating to B+ at least then
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Constellation Taurus: $150 Scrub Tier Model. Only one turret, no parasite fighter, more cargo space because cargo is for scrubs. Possibly may have ability to open up the back. Possibly may have ability to have more turrets added, who knows what you think we figured this poo poo out? the frustration shows.
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D_Smart posted:Yeah, that didn't last long. Eventually, like "helmet-gate", everyone will see just how much time and money has been wasted on all poo poo like this. Because fidelity. hi Derek, I like you. I like Chris too, though. what do I do?
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janssendalt posted:the frustration shows. The perils of once having believed in the croberts
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janssendalt posted:hi Derek, I like you. There are special tables you can strap into.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:how nefariously ruthless they are at extracting nerd funds. I admit I fell for this.
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i'm gonna show those goons just how stupid they really are *pays $1000 for a jpeg*
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This ship has 2 size 3 hardpoints while this other one has a size5! CIG what do you think about the size 6 on the frigate class star destroyer ship? lol
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looking around the internet there's a buncha basic-rear end posers running around thinking that people only started making fun of Star Citizen when Derek Smart wrote his first blog, smh we've been making GBS threads on SC for years
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Dapper Dan posted:I believe so since the lawsuit is based on the TOS, which have been held up in civil court. The product is the game as promised, which hasn't been released. I think they have a responsibility to show where the money has gone. $90 Million+ for a tech demo is unacceptable. Yes - we know. Which is why a bunch of very expensive attorneys are mulling over how best to approach this. I'm not inclined to march into court just to say I did, piss away all that money (I have $100K in retainers committed across three law firms. Believe it. These things are not cheap. Been there) The biggest thing we're dealing with now, is a technicality over the arbitration clause (in the ToS). Since there are three ToS which apply to three different classes of people depending on when they pledged, one wrong move and they can get any lawsuit tossed and dropped into arbitration. Not that I care, but they would see it as a "win" (even though it won't be) and it will just have burned legal bills. And if it gets tossed down to arbitration, they can get awarded costs by the judge. Arbitration is not bad, but it has some rules which could end up not allowing the public to know wtf is going on; which will defeat the purpose. Which is why we don't want to go that route if at all possible. Yes - I'm putting this all in the public domain because, why the gently caress not? This whole farce was started in the public domain and there shouldn't be any secrets. I'm not doing this to "win". I'm doing this to bring accountability to a project that, for the most part, involved not only lies, but also borders on fraudulent inducement depending on how the law ends up interpreting what happened. They sealed our fate when, instead of letting me vent, they decided to make it personal. Now they're hosed because they've got my attention. And I"m semi-retired with nothing better to do with my spare time but to work diligently to prove that I'm right. Even if they fold in the coming months, it won't matter because the public will still need to see those financials. I will never - ever - let them get away with this. I don't care how long it takes nor what it costs.
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The Saddest Robot posted:Will there be controls to keep undesireables out of the Million Mile High Club? Yet the "Million Mile High" club is exclusively males-- and the staff of the club (the white bartender and black bouncer) are all male. They paid $10000 or more to join the most exclusive virtual sausage fest that sci-fi gaming has to offer. So why invoke the possibility of sex when it's all but certain it will just be yet another gathering of dudes hanging out not getting space laid? "The Milliom Mile High Club: where nobody gets laid but everybody gets screwed." G0RF fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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G0RF posted:What baffles me is that, by calling it the "Million Mile High" club, they're directly alluding to the "Mile High Club", which is slang for people having sex in a plane in flight. I'm looking forward to all the high fidelity docking that'll be happening in the million mile high club.
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Sarsapariller posted:Approaching the atmosphere of a planet or moon too closely will result in your ship receiving a warning, and if you continue flying toward it for too long, your ship will begin to rattle apart and be destroyed. They gated it. Here's why: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&pagenumber=490#post453017078 ps: Yes, I'm loving genius at this poo poo.
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no_recall posted:Yeah, I think this is the case with the sudden abrupt move into "alpha". the Jury doesn't care if it's "prealpha", "alpha", "beta" whatever. All that matters is we can purchase, login and play. In this promised 16 player instanced world where you can, board your ship, fly with your friends, do missions, jump in and out of your ship, and has 1 million km square of play space. And that's what matters, in context CR did achieve what he set out to do; you can argue with the points Derek has raised up but I don't think he has much to stand on. I hope you're making GBS threads me. Have you see this list? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/funding-goals
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Maybe the average layperson won't know anything about games, but mis-managing funds is very different. That's the important part that most people are missing. This is more about the finances than it is about the game. And the finances will end up in discovery long before the discussion about the game gets underway.
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