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What hot hatch do you own? This poll is closed. |
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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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I just installed a set of winter tires for my FiST and realized I have no idea what pressure to set them to. On previous vehicles I've run winter tires that were basically the same size as the summer tires and just used the same pressure as a result, but with this car I'm running 195/55R15s when the stock tires are 205/40R17 so I'm pretty sure the official numbers are not nearly as useful. I know how to read excessive wear and tell if it's way off in one direction or another, but how do I figure out reasonable numbers to start with so I can avoid getting to that point in the first place? It also complicates things that my last set of winter tires were on the 50/50 balanced BMW where pressures were the same front and rear, where this thing being FWD is front-heavy and runs a higher pressure up front stock.
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Nov 21, 2015 19:02
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Last year I ran the factory pressure on downsized winters and had no issues. 36 in the back and 39 in the front.
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Nov 21, 2015 20:36
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RIP Paul Walker posted:My old boss was telling me about the guy on the sign ejected from his car. I'll have to mention that it was a focus that was the same color as mine! It was actually a Fiesta ST. I drove by the accident spot a few hours after it was cleared up and there's bits of plastic and glass all over the road. There's still a mark on the sign from where he hit. I should be saddened by that whole thing, but he was driving like an rear end in a top hat at 120mph in traffic and rear ended a car with a family in it. Also his parents sacrificed a lamb to keep him safe a few days before. Guess that's what you get. The nice thing I can take away from it is the car held up quite well for rolling multiple times at 120mph, so I feel pretty safe in my Fiesta.
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Nov 21, 2015 21:36
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BoostCreep posted:Also his parents sacrificed a lamb to keep him safe a few days before. Guess that's what you get. What. 
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Nov 22, 2015 02:58
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Previa_fun posted:What. I read a news article about that and wasn't completely convinced of the quote. The guy is from an Armenian family and they have a type of memorial meal/ceremony that has roots in the Armenian Genocide. It involves serving lamb dishes. Wikipedia doesn't say that a "sacrifice" is necessarily a part of this meal preparation. I wonder if there was a language barrier between the family member and the reporter. The news article labeled it a "sacrifice" but it wasn't a direct quote and I can't tell if a lamb was really "sacrificed" or if it was simply killed for food, or if lamb was bought from a market to make the food. Anyway, the whole thing was done as an event of solidarity for the young guy who died because he had health issues. "Animal Sacrifice" makes a great headline though.
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Nov 22, 2015 06:16
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The lamb god is an unforgiving god. Bah'men.
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Nov 22, 2015 14:17
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Suddenly I'm glad I impulse traded in my ST and bought an Audi S3 instead of waiting for the RS. 50k for a Ford Focus, good lord 
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Nov 23, 2015 03:03
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wolrah posted:I just installed a set of winter tires for my FiST and realized I have no idea what pressure to set them to. On previous vehicles I've run winter tires that were basically the same size as the summer tires and just used the same pressure as a result, but with this car I'm running 195/55R15s when the stock tires are 205/40R17 so I'm pretty sure the official numbers are not nearly as useful. I used factory pressure on 16" FoST winter wheels when stock is 18". I forget my exact sidewalls and widths, but there's significantly more sidewall and significantly less width than stock. No issues with wear when I took them off.
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Nov 23, 2015 15:40
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GutBomb posted:Last year I ran the factory pressure on downsized winters and had no issues. 36 in the back and 39 in the front. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I used factory pressure on 16" FoST winter wheels when stock is 18". I forget my exact sidewalls and widths, but there's significantly more sidewall and significantly less width than stock. No issues with wear when I took them off. Welp, I guess laziness prevails, that's what I set 'em to initially with no better ideas.
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Nov 23, 2015 19:16
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I guess if you really give a poo poo you could look up the base Fiesta tire pressures and assume those would work better.
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Nov 23, 2015 20:17
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Wicaeed posted:Suddenly I'm glad I impulse traded in my ST and bought an Audi S3 instead of waiting for the RS. 50k for a Ford Focus, good lord You spent $50k on a Volkswagen Golf.
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Nov 23, 2015 20:28
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fknlo posted:You spent $50k on a Volkswagen Golf. $50k Jetta actually but yeah.
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Nov 23, 2015 20:59
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Mariana Horchata posted:$50k Jetta actually but yeah. Audi's S3 is built on the MQB platform, same as the Golf. The Jetta is not. And despite being on the same platform as the Golf, the A3/S3 is the nicest car in its class. Whether that says more about compact luxury sedans or the MQB is up to you.
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Nov 24, 2015 04:33
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Mariana Horchata posted:$50k Jetta actually but yeah. Audi's S3 is built on the MQB platform, same as the Golf. The Jetta is not. And despite being on the same platform as the Golf, the A3/S3 is the nicest car in its class. Whether that says more about compact luxury sedans or the MQB is up to you.
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Nov 24, 2015 04:43
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fknlo posted:You spent $50k on a Volkswagen Golf. Nah. MSRP on a Golf R is around 41 +tax (and yeah nobody pays MSRP, but dealers are being fairly ridged on R pricing because of high demand from Dieselgate). For about 5k more you can get a kitted out S3 Premium Plus w/better Nav, sound, suspension, wheels/tires, arguably a better dealer experience, plus not having to grovel for a courtesy vehicle during scheduled maintenances.
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Nov 24, 2015 10:44
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Wicaeed posted:Nah. Just playing. It's too bad Audi never was crazy/stupid enough to sell the RS 3 in America...I liked that one (the hatchback with the I5). Do you have a picture of yours? IMHO the current Audi lines look awkward on a compact sedan (whereas the A4 was almost always perfectly proportioned), and sporty styling/trim/wheels probably wouldn't tip the scales favorably... I'm somewhat surprised that VW dealers are gouging with the Golf R considering they are finally having major supply issues as of this month and are all practically salivating while waiting for the trucks full of new Passats and Tiguans to arrive.
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Nov 24, 2015 15:36
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Mariana Horchata posted:Just playing. It's too bad Audi never was crazy/stupid enough to sell the RS 3 in America...I liked that one (the hatchback with the I5). Do you have a picture of yours? IMHO the current Audi lines look awkward on a compact sedan (whereas the A4 was almost always perfectly proportioned), and sporty styling/trim/wheels probably wouldn't tip the scales favorably... I thought the 2016 RS3  Honestly though, it's going to be priced at 50k+ (more like 55k), and IIRC it's nothing you can't get with some mods & a tune out of an S3.
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Nov 25, 2015 05:57
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Wicaeed posted:I thought the 2016 RS3 It's basically priced dead center between the A45 AMG and BMW M235i in europe, both are about $48k US.
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Nov 25, 2015 06:03
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Wicaeed posted:I thought the 2016 RS3 Possibly but highly doubtful it will be released as a 2016 at this point...my guess would be it being released as a 2017 in the first half of next year.
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Nov 25, 2015 06:50
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I don't know if Audi still does this but they're cheap as poo poo about standard equipment. The GTI usually comes standard with xenon headlights, LCD MID in the gauges, etc. The Audi cousin, the A3, or at least my cars generation in 2006, came standard with cloth seats, basic gauges with no MID, halogen headlights, and a tape deck. Amazingly it still held a price premium over the GTI with those options.
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Nov 25, 2015 08:07
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I don't think the new gti's come with that poo poo standard either though. Definitely not the headlamps and leather anyway.
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Nov 25, 2015 15:47
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powderific posted:I don't think the new gti's come with that poo poo standard either though. Definitely not the headlamps and leather anyway. I have a new base GTI. No xenons (that's the $1k lighting package) or leather (I didn't want that, but I think it's the Autobahn package or something). MFD in cluster is stock, as is BT integration. Performance pack adds a LSD.
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Nov 25, 2015 16:19
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Leather, premium audio and moonroof come in the SE mid-range package. Lighting package (inside accent lighting, swiveling xenons) is a package. That's what I have.
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Nov 25, 2015 18:56
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Riven posted:Leather, premium audio and moonroof come in the SE mid-range package. Lighting package (inside accent lighting, swiveling xenons) is a package. That's what I have. I'm pretty sure the LP is just the headlights. My base has the accent lighting and LED fogs.
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Nov 25, 2015 19:53
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powderific posted:I don't think the new gti's come with that poo poo standard either though. Definitely not the headlamps and leather anyway. Maybe it was just for the MK5 then. There's a 2006 A3 near me in the junkyard that is ridiculously stripper model. Grey cloth seats, tape deck, steel wheels. Who the gently caress pays 30k+ for an overpriced Adui GTI and then options it out like a Ford Escort.
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Nov 26, 2015 16:22
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Wicaeed posted:Nah. As someone with a 16 R you're a bit off on the numbers. The R is limited every year, not just because of Dieselgate. The S3 is a sedan only and for that pretty much gets eliminated by people looking for the R, specifically because it is an S3 in hatch for, for closer to 10k less. MSRP on the higher trim was only 38.5. Some dealers are charging 5k over, but only stupid people are paying that. That gives you the full Nav, better sound, DCC, 19" wheels and as long as you don't go to lovely dealers, the experience is just fine. Line for line the fully spec'd R is the same car as the S3 in hatch form and 10k less.
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Nov 30, 2015 18:51
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8ender posted:Maybe it was just for the MK5 then. There's a 2006 A3 near me in the junkyard that is ridiculously stripper model. Grey cloth seats, tape deck, steel wheels. Who the gently caress pays 30k+ for an overpriced Adui GTI and then options it out like a Ford Escort. The low end trim in the US market was like $26k, and I'm pretty sure it had alloys at least.
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Nov 30, 2015 18:56
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8ender posted:Maybe it was just for the MK5 then. There's a 2006 A3 near me in the junkyard that is ridiculously stripper model. Grey cloth seats, tape deck, steel wheels. Who the gently caress pays 30k+ for an overpriced Adui GTI and then options it out like a Ford Escort. Steel wheels might have been for winter tires. I use steelies on my FiST for that.
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Nov 30, 2015 23:45
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GutBomb posted:Steel wheels might have been for winter tires. I use steelies on my FiST for that. Could very well be. Always hard to tell with a junkyard car. Either way I was impressed with how stripper of a model Audi will let you get away with here in Canada
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Dec 1, 2015 01:12
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What sort of All Season tires do Focus ST people like? And where should I get them plus the wheels?
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Dec 1, 2015 02:59
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I run winters, not all seasons in the winter. If you're going to the effort of doing a full changeover, I should think a mild winter tire would work well for you rather than all-seasons. What's your climate like?
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Dec 1, 2015 03:31
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I run winters, not all seasons in the winter. If you're going to the effort of doing a full changeover, I should think a mild winter tire would work well for you rather than all-seasons. What's your climate like? North Texas stays above freezing for most of the winter. There are sometimes days below 32deg and we get snow/ice once a year or so for a day or two.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:37
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A lot of people like the Continental DWS for all seasons. I have the DW for my summer tires and like them quite a bit.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:44
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All season tires are compromise tires no matter the season. Winter tires aren't just for snow and ice either. Winter tires are for when the ambient temperature is lower than 45 degrees. They sill still work well up to about 60 degrees. Warmer than that and they'll be too soft and eventually wear quicker than other tire types. Keep in mind the temperature when you are doing your actual driving (morning and evening) is probably lower than the "hi" on the weather report. Summer tires turn into hard rocks at 45 degrees and all seasons don't cope well either, especially when it gets wet. Another added benefit to having a dedicated set of winter tires is that they are usually mounted to downsized wheels so you get a lot more sidewall to compensate for poor winter road conditions like potholes and ice bumps. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dec 1, 2015 04:22
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Anyone have a GTI and a BMW X1? I ask because while they are not direct competitors they are the two cars I'm considering for purchase. I can get a loaded '15 X1 for about the same price as the '16 GTI. Hoping a goon may have both in a garage and could provide me some insight on the pro/cons of each as an owner. Also, will the GTI take a big hit on resale due to the TDI scandal?
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Dec 1, 2015 05:06
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GutBomb posted:All season tires are compromise tires no matter the season. Winter tires aren't just for snow and ice either. Winters in texas WILL break that 60 degree winter tire barrier for a day, or a few days, at a time. Do I just put up with the extra wear for a day, or swap them back out a couple times during those weeks between cold fronts? Second part of my question from before, where's the best place to look for these tires and wheels to mount them to? I presume I want to get another set of wheels so I can swap them out without needing to pay for mounting and balancing each time.
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Dec 1, 2015 12:32
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I don't think you really need full on snow tires for that climate. Tirerack is a great place to look for tires since they have lots of reviews and good prices. Continental DWS seem to be the usual recommendation for a high performance all season that does exceptionally well in the snow. I'm in Nebraska where the winters are certainly worse and I've run good all seasons year round on FWD cars with no issue. My favorite has been the Pirelli Cinturato P7, but I've never run one on a "fast" car, just my wife's old Grand Prix.
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Dec 1, 2015 16:22
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Stugazi posted:Anyone have a GTI and a BMW X1? I had a X1 with the 2.8 as a loaner car for a while and own a GTI now. The fact that the X1 doesn't come in manual is a big point, that said the GTI is more sporty and picks up power cheaper. The X1 has a little more room and is comfier as a DD.
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Dec 1, 2015 18:00
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The Ferret King posted:What sort of All Season tires do Focus ST people like? And where should I get them plus the wheels? I've always run all-seasons on both my Civic Sis and I live in Northern, IL. We get lots of snow but our street department clears it pretty fast. I've never had any issues getting around except when we've gotten over a foot of snow and just about everyone had to wait until the plows came through. Michelin Pilot Sport A/S are my current tires and I'll replace them with the newer A/S 3 when the time comes. Car and Driver also said in a recent article that if they were gonna run all-seasons year round, the Michelins would be it.
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Dec 1, 2015 18:12
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I had DWS and they wear odd. Due to the tread design they seem to wear in the middle really bad compared to the sides. I also barely got 30k out of them. I can't really think of many places in Texas where you would need a true winter tire. A good all season will work all year round and tends to last longer than both a winter and true summer.
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