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Ultragonk posted:Cheers. I always wonder how they decide who to kill off and if they'll ever bring them back, like if a character kills someone and they can't write their way out of a hole or because they just can't think of anything to do with the character. In this specific case, you're misled to think Bruce and Dick have had a falling out because they're on opposite sides, but then it's revealed Nightwing is Damien and Batman is pretty mad that his killer took his identity. Since the comic book is filling in blanks for a video game, most of the decisions are based on setting up fights or explaining why characters aren't in the game.
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Lightning Lord posted:Are you asking about Mattie Franklin because you're reading Alias because of Jessica Jones? No, some dude in work said Spider-Woman is pregnant in a recent storyline. So when I started reading some comics again I started reading Spider-Woman and thought it was strange how they killed her off in issue 50 then the same guy told me to read the Grim Hunt story and I just thought it was odd how Mattie was killed off and that apparently she never comes back. Though now you mention it I do want to read Alias, I thought Jessica Jones was really entertaining.
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Nov 28, 2015 20:24
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Ultragonk posted:Though now you mention it I do want to read Alias, I thought Jessica Jones was really entertaining. If you have a tablet, it's currently $0.99 an issue on comiXology.
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Nov 28, 2015 20:29
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Uthor posted:If you have a tablet, it's currently $0.99 an issue on comiXology. That's great I just bought a tablet last week, and they have a UK site. Thanks.
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Nov 28, 2015 20:50
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Green Lantern: Mosaic, where C'hp dies, is like reading a fever dream, but not really in a good way. It's interesting that C'hp's death is a continuity point that's held even into the New 52, but the actual conceit of the series (John Stewart becomes a Guardian of the Universe and oversees an interplanetary refugee community) has been thoroughly buried. Mosaic was a comic that was too good for this world and also the best Stewart lantern comics ever written
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Nov 28, 2015 20:51
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Ultragonk posted:That's great I just bought a tablet last week, and they have a UK site. Thanks. Also, Marvel Unlimited is about ten bux a month and has all modern comics up to six months ago, along with a good portion of classic comics.
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Nov 28, 2015 20:54
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Soonmot posted:Also, Marvel Unlimited is about ten bux a month and has all modern comics up to six months ago, along with a good portion of classic comics. That seems good. Anything like that for DC? There isn't is there.
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Nov 28, 2015 21:03
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Ultragonk posted:That seems good. Anything like that for DC? There isn't is there. Nah as evidenced by their trade paperback division DC doesn't like to make money. They apparently expect to be held aloft by releasing increasingly opulent anniversary collections of Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, and Killing Joke every five years or so.
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Nov 28, 2015 21:09
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There's a digital comics thread with some more info and frequent postings of sales, if you wish to peruse. There's tale of DC doing a buy one, get one sale on Monday. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3611527&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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Nov 28, 2015 21:20
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Ultragonk posted:That seems good. Anything like that for DC? There isn't is there. It's great, however they don't have any Marvel MAX comics on there and probably never will, so you'll have to get Alias separately.
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Nov 28, 2015 21:31
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Travis343 posted:Nah as evidenced by their trade paperback division DC doesn't like to make money. They apparently expect to be held aloft by releasing increasingly opulent anniversary collections of Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, and Killing Joke every five years or so. It is very strange, I've found it easier to get Marvel back issues than DC back issues. In general do Marvel outsell DC or is it the other way round? What are the more popular titles? I bet Batman and X-Men are very popular for their respective companies.
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Nov 28, 2015 21:32
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Ultragonk posted:It is very strange, I've found it easier to get Marvel back issues than DC back issues. The most successful heroes in general are Spider-Man and Batman respectively.
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Nov 28, 2015 21:35
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ImpAtom posted:The most successful heroes in general are Spider-Man and Batman respectively. Cheers. Knew it had to be Batman, but wasn't sure abut Marvel.
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Nov 28, 2015 21:57
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Sometimes it's Harley Quinn.
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Don't go off sales.Most of DC's best comics are their worst selling. Read Prez!
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Nov 28, 2015 22:08
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Marvel has been pretty consistently outselling DC for awhile now and it's not even really close. To give you an idea, for October, Marvel had a 44% dollar share, while DC had 22% (rounding up). September was closer at 33/26 and August was 37/26.
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Nov 28, 2015 22:41
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Having your favorite comics on the knife's edge of cancellation is an exciting way to live!
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Endless Mike posted:Marvel has been pretty consistently outselling DC for awhile now and it's not even really close. To give you an idea, for October, Marvel had a 44% dollar share, while DC had 22% (rounding up). September was closer at 33/26 and August was 37/26. Star Wars is Marvel's silver bullet. Plus, it helps that nearly every book they publish is good. DC has been getting better, but they don't seem to care that books like Wonder Woman and Flash are steaming piles instead of best sellers.
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Nov 28, 2015 23:21
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Endless Mike posted:Marvel has been pretty consistently outselling DC for awhile now and it's not even really close. To give you an idea, for October, Marvel had a 44% dollar share, while DC had 22% (rounding up). September was closer at 33/26 and August was 37/26. That is a bit of a kicking. Teenage Fansub posted:Having your favorite comics on the knife's edge of cancellation is an exciting way to live! All the sports teams I support seem to be constantly losing and on the verge of bankruptcy so I can relate.
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Nov 28, 2015 23:22
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Ultragonk posted:That's great I just bought a tablet last week, and they have a UK site. Thanks. 99 cent sales work out to 70p an issue for us (well, 69p actually  ).
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Ultragonk posted:It is very strange, I've found it easier to get Marvel back issues than DC back issues. Indications based on what little they release about digital sales figures put Ms. Marvel doing better than almost everything else at either company. Some books are not doing so hot in print but are doing huge business in digital.
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Yeah, I should have mentioned those are strictly print sales via Diamond, but last I heard digitals sales are generally not a huge factor in overall sales number except in some very specific cases.
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Endless Mike posted:Yeah, I should have mentioned those are strictly print sales via Diamond, but last I heard digitals sales are generally not a huge factor in overall sales number except in some very specific cases. They only roll out the digital sales when they want to really stress how successful a book is and even then they don't give the exact figures.
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Do the Psycho Pirate and New Gods still have memories that transcend reboots?
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Squizzle posted:Do the Psycho Pirate and New Gods still have memories that transcend reboots? Who knows with PP but Metron was recently shown to be the same guy from the beginning.
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Nov 30, 2015 05:53
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Squizzle posted:Do the Psycho Pirate and New Gods still have memories that transcend reboots? The problem is New 52 Psycho-Pirate is a different character.
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Wasn't Psycho Pirate something specific with the original Crisis anyway, since he was working with the Anti-Monitor? I don't think there's any reason he would've remembered pre-New 52 or anything.
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Lightning Lord posted:The problem is New 52 Psycho-Pirate is a different character. The Pirate with the memories was killed by Black Adam. I believe he pushed the mask straight through his head.
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Lightning Lord posted:Are you asking about Mattie Franklin because you're reading Alias because of Jessica Jones? Just got through those issues and Marvel really ran Mattie through the ringer I fancy reading some comics she's in just to make sure she actually had some good times. Have any characters been given just really crappy lives?
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Nov 30, 2015 19:18
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Ultragonk posted:Just got through those issues and Marvel really ran Mattie through the ringer I fancy reading some comics she's in just to make sure she actually had some good times. Have any characters been given just really crappy lives? Daredevil, every woman he's ever loved.
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Nov 30, 2015 19:21
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Skwirl posted:Daredevil, every woman he's ever loved. I don't know a lot abut Daredevil beyond the Netflix series but didn't one of his girlfriends get addicted to drugs and contract HIV?
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Nov 30, 2015 19:27
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Ultragonk posted:I don't know a lot abut Daredevil beyond the Netflix series but didn't one of his girlfriends get addicted to drugs and contract HIV? Yep, and then brutally killed later on. Kind of like his other girlfriends.
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Madkal posted:Yep, and then brutally killed later on. Kind of like his other girlfriends. I may regret this question but what is it with Marvel writers and women? Though to be fair DC writers could be just as bad.
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Nov 30, 2015 19:49
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Ultragonk posted:I don't know a lot abut Daredevil beyond the Netflix series but didn't one of his girlfriends get addicted to drugs and contract HIV? Sort of. She became addicted to drugs after being a porn star and sold Daredevils identity to her dealer for a fix. (Frank Miller). She never got aids it was just a way to try to gently caress with his life by mysterio. She was still killed by Bullseye, and he also killed another one of his girlfriend. There was another that he destroyed her business so she would marry him and later she kills herself. Another was made insane by one of his villains.
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Ultragonk posted:I may regret this question but what is it with Marvel writers and women? Though to be fair DC writers could be just as bad. I think Ron Marz did a reasonably good job explaining it to Gail Simone: """ I think the obvious point here is that female characters, in general, have a rougher time of it. I think the knee-jerk reaction is they're more "abused," though I'm not sure that's fully the case. Male heroes go through all sorts of trials and tragedies, and generally triumph over them in the end. However, you could certainly make a list of male heroes (Captain Mar-Vell, Jason Todd, Bucky, various former GLs, Barry Allen, etc.) who have wound up dead or depowered. To me the real difference is less male-female than main character-supporting character. In most cases, main characters, "title" characters who support their own books, are male. Historically, male characters have been able to support their own books sales-wise, while female characters have not. I'm not sure this is the case anymore, but I suspect the mindset still prevails to a certain extent. So male characters who support their own individual titles remain somewhat immune to the kind of severe and permanent character changes you're sighting. It has more to do with sales figures than sex bias. So if "main" characters, including Wonder Woman, are generally sacrosanct, the supporting characters are the ones who suffer the more permanent and shattering tragedies. And a lot of supporting characters are female. Take Gwen Stacy, for example (even though it's a example more than two decades old). Her death was a tragedy, obviously, but it also served as a tragedy in Spider-Man's life; a case of a supporting character's death being used to adversely effect the life of the main character. Since most main characters are male, a way of introducing tragedy into that character's life is to have something adverse happen to a woman in his life. To my mind, as a writer you want to be able to introduce some sort of change or drama to your characters. You can kill off or otherwise severely change a supporting character. You just can't do so with a main character, in most cases, and certainly never without the blessing of the Powers That Be. """ Marv Wolfman said something similar, and there is other insight to be had: http://lby3.com/wir/creators.html (Hey, this is related to the thread title, even!  )
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prefect posted:I think Ron Marz did a reasonably good job explaining it to Gail Simone: Man, Dwayne McDuffie being on there with a "NEW!!!" tag is making me sad. Also, Mark Waid's response is, as might be expected, great.
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Nov 30, 2015 20:19
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I'm betting Mark Millar's response of "at least the sexual aspects of the violence aren't exploitative" was written before he literally "booby trapped" a minor character's vagina after impregnating her with her brother's sperm.
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Ultragonk posted:I may regret this question but what is it with Marvel writers and women? Though to be fair DC writers could be just as bad. Most of Marvel's seminal creators were old-ish men, and some of them were John Byrne and Frank Miller, who have serious hangups that cannot be blamed on their age. prefect posted:I think Ron Marz did a reasonably good job explaining it to Gail Simone: Yup, this has always been true as well. The trend is still unfortunate, but making more books starring women helps mitigate this sort of problem. Such as when some hack had Arana's dad turn into hamburger meat.
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prefect posted:I think Ron Marz did a reasonably good job explaining it to Gail Simone: That does explain a lot thanks. Also I looked at the character list and this was at the top "All of Savage Dragon's girlfriends" just made me laugh. Lurdiak posted:Frank Miller, who have serious hangups that cannot be blamed on their age. Frank Miller seems like he has a lot of hang ups. bessantj fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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