Westminster System posted:

It's Focuses or Foci, actually.

GSD posted:

Danzig for Slovakia

fakeedit: oh i am an idiot. trade Danzig for Slovakia. I somehow read it as "We demand you give Danzig to Slovakia!"

YF-23 posted:

Also, I believe you mean focii.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Kind of a strange trade really. I mean, Slovakia wasn't historically a part of Poland. Now, I admit that this is obviously not a requirement for conquest, but it's just that, well, Lithuania is right there. Wouldn't it make much more sense to have Poland trade Danzig for German support in Lithuania? If Germany is befriending Poland it clearly doesn't have the same designs on Eastern Europe as it did historically, so letting the Poles take Lithuania wouldn't be a big deal. Hell, they could take Latvia and Estonia too, even if the Germans would probably want Memel. That way Poland retains access to the sea, and retakes lost territory, all the while preemptively protecting Eastern Europe from the Reds.

Panzeh posted:

Historically the Germans did make an attempt to bring Poland into their fold but they still wanted Danzig, and indeed they offered territorial compensation in Slovakia. I don't think Ribbentropp and Hitler quite understood how important the region was to Poland, but there's some historical basis in that option.

Randarkman posted:

This wasn't that totally disingenious offer to negotiate with Poland after that false flag operation carried out by the Brandenburgers was it?

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Kind of a strange trade really. I mean, Slovakia wasn't historically a part of Poland. Now, I admit that this is obviously not a requirement for conquest, but it's just that, well, Lithuania is right there. Wouldn't it make much more sense to have Poland trade Danzig for German support in Lithuania? If Germany is befriending Poland it clearly doesn't have the same designs on Eastern Europe as it did historically, so letting the Poles take Lithuania wouldn't be a big deal. Hell, they could take Latvia and Estonia too, even if the Germans would probably want Memel. That way Poland retains access to the sea, and retakes lost territory, all the while preemptively protecting Eastern Europe from the Reds.

Randarkman posted:

Best example I saw of people pluralizing words of latin origin wrong was on some MRA's blog or something where he gave the plural of clitoris as "clitorii".

Enjoy posted:

Make more sense geopolitically but from a gameplay perspective, it could cause balance issues for German forces to have to more through Polish territory in their invasion of the USSR - it could mess up supply routes, control and ownership of the conquests and unit pathing and front logic.

Funky Valentine posted:

In one timeline, Hitler was visited by three ghosts of Germany (Bismarck, Speer, and Merkel) one Christmas and decided to change his ways.

So he chooses to be fair and gives Poland all of Slovakia in return for Danzig. Hitler and Poland then take on the world together.

Randarkman posted:

Best example I saw of people pluralizing words of latin origin wrong was on some MRA's blog or something where he gave the plural of clitoris as "clitorii".

Mans posted:

those were the front line troops of the Roman legion, right?

Randarkman posted:

The Clitorii were from the wealthy families of Rome. The cream of the Roman legion, they were mainly made up of men approaching middle age. These hardened veterans were literally the toughest infantry you could find in the ancient world. The clitorii, behind the other two lines of infantry, were not always required to go into battle, but when they did, their enemies had reason to be worried. These men carried a long thrusting spear and a sword. Being richer, they could also afford better equipment. There were also less of them than of the other two lines. They were the third battle line in the typical Pre-Marian strategy, and the phrase 'Going to the Clitorii' comes from that.

Patter Song posted:

So I've been out of the Paradox loop for a while, coming back in to see what's new and you guys are still arguing over stupid pseudo-Latin pluralizations for bonus and malus?

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I feel home, guys. It's like I was never gone.

VostokProgram posted:

Welcome back! Do you have any opinions on the Vicky 2 economy, monarch points, planet tiles, or giving things good tumbles?

Ghetto Prince posted:

I love the handcrafted new world system from the dev diary, but all I can think when I see this image is that a breakup of Pangaea with no south american continent and no isthmus of panama separating the Pacific and Atlantic oceans means that ocean temperatures never cooled , whale populations never declined and Megalodon and Leviathan Melvillei never went extinct.

My point being that this worlds versions of Moby Dick and Jaws are going to be amazing.

Mans posted:

imagine a world where when people indicated "there be dragons" in unexplored parts of the sea they weren't actually kidding.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

There's a mod for that. By someone who literally believes that to have been the case in real life.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

There's a mod for that. By someone who literally believes that to have been the case in real life.

Ofaloaf posted:

Patrick Stewart narrated that one documentary! I saw it on the TV!!

Kavak posted:

I think it's just one event in an EU III mod, but yeah, he literally believed there used to be dragons roaming the earth. Almost as nuts as the Modern Day HoI III mod that was made by a guy who believed the planes that hit the WTC and the Pentagon didn't exist and were added by CGI into all footage of the events.

quote:

This thread is designed to hold anything relating to dragons/dinosaurs and the truth or myths regarding them.
as many of you know, there has been behemoth/sea monster events in TN mod for a long time, but they were very rare. those events are now more common.
this is NOT going to be a discussion thread about if they existed or not. this is ONLY a thread for discussions and comments about the events that are in the mod and how they effect the mod.
I will state my beliefs here. you can laugh all you want but these beliefs will NOT BE DISCUSSED HERE.you need to realize that even if dragons or living dinosaurs did not exist in the EU3 timeframe, the legends and myths about them DID exist. therefore having events about soldiers or other entities that beleive they saw them is NOT a laughable matter and is indeed PLAUSIBLE to at least have situations where these myths (or possible truth) is reported (via events).
so. laugh or not, but dont stop playing the mod due to either of your views. you will hold one of the following opinions and all of them will work just fine while playing the mod (unless you think there was never any myths about dragons or dinosaurs in the EU3 timeframe or before that):
1. you dont care and will play anyway.
2. you think dragons or dinosaurs truly existed during the EU3 timeframe.
3. you think myths about dragons or dinosaurs existed in the EU3 timeframe.
you can state your beliefs here, but any replies to anyones beliefs will be deleted without further notice.Again, this is not a Discussion thread about our beliefs, it is a discussion thread about the implications in the game.
my beliefs are number 2, in the above list, and no, I dont wish to discuss them here. thanks.

quote:

basicly, right now in 12.98, there is a very rare chance of sea monster encounter events for sea going nations.

behemoth events are still rare but are much more common for nations that had historical sightings, encounters or myths of dinosaurs or dragons.

once a nation gets a behemoth encounter/myth event, then they will eventualy get the dragon quest event where they get to decide how the nation will proceed with this information. Natins can try to hunt dinosaurs/dragons, ignore them, worship them, or try to tame them. the 3 choices other than ignore all give permanent bonuses.

regardless of if you feel that living dragons/dnosaurs were true in the time period or just myth, it still plausibly aplies to the game and I will tell you why.

hunting dragons, even if they are not found, will still increase military training, tactics and exercises, thus, military tradition gain is plausible.

worshiping dragons, regardless of if they are real of myth, will still cause the nations religion to adopt them as a icon and perhaps make elaborate costumes and thus the religious culture would be more united.

taming dragons, even if its a myth, could stil raise the nations prestige if they are able to convince other nations that they have captivated dragons.

code:

dragon_tame = {
	prestige = 0.01
	icon = 3
}

dragon_hunt = {
	army_tradition = 0.01
	icon = 7
}

dragon_worship = {
	tolerance_heathen = -1 
	tolerance_heretic = -1
	tolerance_own = 1
	icon = 9
}

YF-23 posted:

Decrepus posted:

All that and you can't even gently caress the dragon? I'll stick to skyrim for now.

Mans posted:

not sure how adding dragons to catholicism would make spain more tolerant

GrossMurpel posted:

I didn't see any of you complaining about dragons existing in the A Song of Ice and Fire mod for CK2.

Obfuscation posted:

The dragons are easily the best part of that mod, someone should mod dragons to normal CK2 too.

Mans posted:

not sure how adding dragons to catholicism would make spain more tolerant

zedprime posted:

I assume there is an anthro lizard race in Stellaris to keep dragons abiding by official Paradox dragon canon to avoid such amateurish mods in the future.

Pharnakes posted:

Pretty much, was probably even dumber at launch.