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aleksendr posted:If they go down the wing commander route with torpedo run (Very long lock time where you have to stay almost motionless, slow projectile speed) those things are going to get shredded to tiny space bits by other players, no matter how good the escorts are. True, but it sure looks pretty.
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Here's a thing that's better than Star Citizen. It has a catte, wibbly-wobbly space, Lazerhawk music and, er, pickles: http://dn.ht/picklecat/ Mouse controls things. Sort of...
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G0RF posted:I've got two words for you: Mini-Games. aleksendr posted:You can have such a game and make it fun. Look at Puzzle Pirate. Having a few people doing good at some puzzles make a real difference in ship combat and having a good navigator can make voyages nearly half as long. But then the game was balanced around such things from the very begining. This is true, mini-games would work. But I don't think CIG can do it competently. Also, Broteam is playing Line of Defense
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Chin posted:Here's the best video of exciting multicrew 2.0 action I could find:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWn3E3ya_M Is that seriously supposed to be considered gameplay? Holy poo poo, I'd rather roll around naked in a cactus greenhouse, then dive into a swimming pool filled with vinegar than "play" that. It makes pos shoots in Eve look thoroughly amazing, exciting, and really fun.
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I did the thing where you cheat engine your way into 2.0 singleplayer and uhhhhhh... Its enlightening you know, but not really in a good way. Immediately as I ran down the steps my head clipped through the wall and I could see out of the level, then I fell to the side of a walkway where I struggled to get out for 30 minutes, then I got to the computer area and the menu to select my ship didn't work at all so I spam clicked and pressed F to pay respects repeatedly until it magically showed some ships, I selected one and it spawned outside and was broken. The quantum drive locations didn't show up on the hud so I spawned another ship and they showed up but weren't labeled. I flew to 5-6 of them and they were all antenna activation missions, playing the same voice overs, with the same scripted dogfight. After turning them on I went back to Port Olisar and my camera was tilted at 45 degrees, another one of the same bugs which have been in the game for two years, another reminder that every moment in-game is an insufferable experience of bugs and glitches in a dark sterile and uninspiring spaceworld. I'm not seeing the magic nor the appeal.
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I think I missed the whole Karl doxxing Bootcha. I miss all the good things. Except salmon recipes.
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xiansi posted:Here's a thing that's better than Star Citizen. Lazerhawk ain't bad, the rest is just icing on the cake.
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My idea to severely and permanently reduce gold farming. (self.starcitizen) submitted 19 minutes ago by Bornflying Of all the things I have read about the possibility of a golf farming problem, nothing has addressed the ability of someone to create an account, farm/build up wealth, and then sell the account. This is the problem that can circumvent all the measures to prevent gold farming. CR has mentioned is a couple of times, but hasn't offered a solution. Now, I'm sure plenty of people will hate this idea but I think it is necessary. The idea is simple: verify accounts periodically with credit cards. There is credit card verification processes out their that only work with the correct name matching the card, and this is the type I am suggesting. Let's say once every 4 months your (or your parents) credit card/debit card info, along with the corresponding name, must be entered. 15 cents would be authorized and charged to the credit card (to cover a 10 cent typical CC transaction charge and overhead) only if the name of on the credit card matches the name on the Star Citizen account. For kids under the age of 18 and not yet able to obtain a credit or debit card, their parents name would be the account holder in Star Citizen. Up to 6 accounts (to allow for multiple children) would be allowed per person, non-transferable. If I were to try to sell someone one of my 6 accounts, yes I could give them my password and then they could change it allowing them access...but who would risk giving a stranger their credit card information to enter every 4 months? So 4 months would go by, then the RSI server would ask for the CC info and boom...locked out of the account and all related accounts flagged to be deleted for violating the terms of service. Then all the other measures CR is taking like limiting daily UEC purchases, transfer taxes, and alerts when someone is trading a high amount of UEC for very little in return would really put a huge hurdle for would be gold farmers. Maybe I'm missing something here. It seems to me the best and really needed solution. 
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Chin posted:Here's the best video of exciting multicrew 2.0 action I could find:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWn3E3ya_M Can you feel the excitement of moving a dot around ? CAN YOU FEEL THE IMMERSION ? Holy gently caress that was so boring... The way they did shields you need rouhgly 4 commands. Balance the shields, full foward, full backward and reinforce weakest facing. If i had a say in this i would have done the shield system like they did in the old Robotech anime. Big energy circles you have to position manually around the ship to block shots. The "Shield Engineer" would play "eat the lazer" with it and the more laser he would eat, the more buff he would give to the other ship roles (Faster turret roation, better weapon damage, quicker ROF, ect). Between combat he could play a "shield harmonics tuning" mini game, making his "energy circle" bigger or faster or more efficient for the next fight. AND FOR gently caress SAKE STOP HIDING THE BEAUTIFULL SCENERY YOUR ART PEOPLE DESIGNED BEHIND FULL FACE SCRREEN. HUDS EXIST AND WHERE INVENTED FOR THAT VERY REASON.
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redwalrus posted:I did the thing where you cheat engine your way into 2.0 singleplayer and uhhhhhh... Its enlightening you know, but not really in a good way. Not that it in any way makes this better, but each time you turn on a comm array you get a beacon that takes you to an actual mission added to your mobiglass. If you hit f9 and click the scheduler you can see your missions and then you can turn on tracking to actually go to them. They are slightly more interesting than the comm arrays. aleksendr posted:If they go down the wing commander route with torpedo run (Very long lock time where you have to stay almost motionless, slow projectile speed) those things are going to get shredded to tiny space bits by other players, no matter how good the escorts are. I agree which is why I'm not criticizing ships until they show up in game, but in this case they've basically taken a single-use torpedo bomber and given it top billing as a multi crew ship when it is singularly unsuited for that purpose. I thought that was stupid but held off until it was in the game, and hey- turns out It's just blitheringly retarded and the only reason they did it is because it's a very pretty ship that makes for good screenshots. It really shows (to me) that they're just kind of fumbling along with no real sense of how all this poo poo's supposed to fit together.
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Chin posted:Here's the best video of exciting multicrew 2.0 action I could find:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWn3E3ya_M I'm the last 10 seconds of this video.
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Chin posted:Here's the best video of exciting multicrew 2.0 action I could find:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWn3E3ya_M the guy cant even do his 'job' cos he cant see a loving thing
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That multi crew may look stupid to us but Citizens don't want fun times, they want to be doing A Really Important Job in space. When Colin clicks dots on a screen he is doing his duty, he is a Commander
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Mummy, what did grandpa do in the great space war? Well honey, he looked blankly at a screen a few inches away from his face while in his peripheral vision he could barely make out the lasers ripping him, his pals and their ship to pieces. He was a great man.
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Sarsapariller posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/300153/retaliator-first-true-multiplayer-ship-a-failure-before-release Already moved to the Concern subforum. There's your answer. Chin posted:Here's the best video of exciting multicrew 2.0 action I could find:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWn3E3ya_M Holy poo poo that's terrible. There's absolutely nothing about that which could even be considered remotely entertaining. There's no feedback, no situational awareness with which to ensure the operator can provide a meaningful contribution to the fight, no actual gameplay or interesting mechanic to speak of, and nothing that even remotely requires skill. It looks like busy work that could be better handled by an "equalize shields" button (which already exists). Mind you this is the CORE GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE that CIG is going for, with one guy flying the ship, other people manning the turrets, and other people loving around with engineering or whatever. I'm genuinely embarrassed for whoever thought that was a good idea that would be fun to play.
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Mirificus posted:Psychology expert too: lol
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Iglocska posted:6000 hours, counting with 8 hours to complete an average game, that's 750 games. If you add up the time you've spent spamming devastate, you probably end up with the time needed to finish 2-3 games in itself. He said to "completion" which means a 100% or close enough to it. ...  I've wasted so much time.
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there's also a chair where you get to be the ships financial accountant, the screen drags up a huge excel sheet and you type in various functions. welcome to the rest of your dreary life in the verse.
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peter gabriel posted:That multi crew may look stupid to us but Citizens don't want fun times, they want to be doing A Really Important Job in space. That may be the case for the first 10 hours of gameplay, but like long animations it wont hold water once your up to your 20th cargo run, less alone the 200 hours you can pour in an average MMO over 3 months. Even the most sperg or sperg eventually wish he could streamline things once he realise he is just doing busywork.
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aleksendr posted:Even the most sperg or sperg eventually wish he could streamline things once he realise he is just doing busywork. If they were that aware of reality, they wouldn't be backers
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Jon Do posted:If they were that aware of reality, they wouldn't be backers
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aleksendr posted:That may be the case for the first 10 hours of gameplay, but like long animations it wont hold water once your up to your 20th cargo run, less alone the 200 hours you can pour in an average MMO over 3 months. Even the most sperg or sperg eventually wish he could streamline things once he realise he is just doing busywork. There are people who pretend to be air traffic controllers for other nerds for hours on end using stuff like this: http://dwvac.com/ These people are among us and they spend a lot of money to fly around pretending to be pilots
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peter gabriel posted:There are people who pretend to be air traffic controllers for other nerds for hours on end using stuff like this: That's baby stuff. Here's grown-up version: https://www.vatsim.net/about Look, you can even submit your flight plan on the website - https://www.vatsim.net/pilots/file-flightplan
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Chin posted:Here's the best video of exciting multicrew 2.0 action I could find:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWn3E3ya_M It's really weird having them all just be in the front and sitting in a straight line, too. It'd have been cooler if maybe each station had its own room or something.
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Loiosh posted:That's baby stuff. Here's grown-up version: https://www.vatsim.net/about That's actually what I meant ha ha, thanks for posting that though, yeah this stuff is hardcore
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Chin posted:Here's the best video of exciting multicrew 2.0 action I could find:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWn3E3ya_M Thank you for this. Now if only CIG repurposed that gameplay into a roguelike where you and your team are to explore the stars and see how far you can go. Something like "Out there" + "Artemis", with leaderboards. I think it'll work and sell well and be a real game.
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The UI in that video is the most uninspired pile of poo poo I've ever seen. Even Space Engineers manages to have a better, easier to read UI than that.
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CrazyTolradi posted:The UI in that video is the most uninspired pile of poo poo I've ever seen. Even Space Engineers manages to have a better, easier to read UI than that. Be careful you don't want go popping peoples dreams now.
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I'm the weird type of ultra-cheap motherfucker who bases at least some of my respect for others based on their intellect; particularly resource management. Despite the fact that other people's money is, in fact, theirs to spend as they want... I can't help but feel that anyone with over a grand in this would have been better served by escorts. I mean, that's ten blowjobs. The game comes out, it's great, but is it better than 10 blowjobs for every grand you dropped? To say nothing of the concept that if you have this kind of money in your entertainment budget, you could put it into something that would pay off in the long run instead. And still have all the entertainment you need. For instance, having just bought computer upgrades, a nicer TV, the things they already did in anticipation that this game would be amazing. Then, they could spend the rest on something like a vacation. Something that, while you don't get your money back, and it's an entertainment/luxury purchase, is actually worthwhile. Not an amazing video game. Those are worth maybe 60 bucks. Come the gently caress on, grow a brain. We're all laughing at you for a reason. JainDoh fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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My brother and I actually build really large capital ships in space engineers, there's like a helm station, a gunner station, an engineering station, and then there's like little parasite fighters which can launch off and poo poo. It's really a lot cooler than star citizen, sorry
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peter gabriel posted:There are people who pretend to be air traffic controllers for other nerds for hours on end using stuff like this: I know, and some people build whole cockpits in the garage for fun. Its a great hobby, but those people alone cant pay for the infrastructure of a AAAA (A ? How many A are we claiming to use for SC now?) MMO on the long term. You need a bunch of regular "Bro" logging a few hours after work one day out of two to pay for the bandwith. Every project or kickstarter that decided to pander "only to the hardcorest or the hard" sunk into oblivions after a few months. Even EVE, the game more fun to read about than to play and know to have probably the highest difficulty cliff after Dwarf Fortress has streamlined his "new pilot" experience about every two years, each time making it easier and easier to join. aleksendr fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Loiosh posted:That's baby stuff. Here's grown-up version: https://www.vatsim.net/about This is more the "Job training in your free time" level of dedication. Those people may be enjoying themselves, but i would not call that "fun" in a video game product sense of the term.
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peter gabriel posted:There are people who pretend to be air traffic controllers for other nerds for hours on end using stuff like this: Not one of the guys who pay heaps of money to pretend to be pilots. Literally one of the guys that pretends to be an air traffic controller.
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well we all like to make fun of people, but i'd say it's less about their definition of fun being odd. more "well, how much did you spend on... all this? wait, how much?" cause if they just like own a hotas and mic that's one thing, but if they have a $5000 mancave for fake piloting? much less air controlling? it's less respectable. JainDoh fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Jon Do posted:Despite the fact that other people's money is, in fact, theirs to spend as they want... I can't help but feel that anyone with over a grand in this would have been better served by escorts. I mean, that's ten blowjobs. The game comes out, it's great, but is it better than 10 blowjobs for every grand you dropped? lol if you would pay $100 to lose part of your life force.
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theyre star citizen backers, theyre the exact clientele for escorts too disgusting for a healthy sex life, but plenty of disposable income JainDoh fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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seriously that bitch looks skeevy not even all the poo poo we heard about her she looks like shes biting back a terrible, hateful comment to whoever is taking the picture RIGHT NOW
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Jon Do posted:seriously that bitch looks skeevy just think of how many languages she can call you that person a human being in 
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