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I heard on a podcast today that Jerry Jarrett was the one tapped to run WWF if Vince went down on the steroids trial. That seems weird to me, as a plan B. But I must say, can you imagine how cool Giant Smokey Mountain (essentially) would have been with the New Generation roster? Much cooler timeline than ours.
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Frankston posted:Hi, I'm really sick of WWE and I want to start watching NJPW. Is there a way to do this in the UK, preferably for free? You can watch day 1 of the Tag League for free to get a bit of a taste: http://njpwworld.com/pg/s_series_00357_1
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projecthalaxy posted:I heard on a podcast today that Jerry Jarrett was the one tapped to run WWF if Vince went down on the steroids trial. That seems weird to me, as a plan B. But I must say, can you imagine how cool Giant Smokey Mountain (essentially) would have been with the New Generation roster? Much cooler timeline than ours. Vince respected Jerry a lot because Vince Sr. was very close to him. Jerry said they'd just talk on the phone for hours every Sunday when Vince was in the shits with the steroid trial. Vince was sure he was going to go down and after a few weeks of persuading convinced Jerry to agree that if he went down, Jerry would take over the office in his place because he didn't trust anyone in his inner circle to see the big picture. Then Nailz happened and it never came to that.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Vince respected Jerry a lot because Vince Sr. was very close to him. Jerry said they'd just talk on the phone for hours every Sunday when Vince was in the shits with the steroid trial. Vince was sure he was going to go down and after a few weeks of persuading convinced Jerry to agree that if he went down, Jerry would take over the office in his place because he didn't trust anyone in his inner circle to see the big picture. Then Nailz happened and it never came to that. Makes sense. I'd still love to see the Monday Night Wars between WCW and Memphis WWE.
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dsriggs posted:Yeah, Vince was doing a lot of business with the USWA at that time, even appearing as a heel character on USWA programming. It's clear they had a good working relationship, at that time at least. Yeah, the reason Vince was so good as the Mr McMahon character off the bat because he'd already done it in Memphis as a foil for Lawler, if I recall.
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, the reason Vince was so good as the Mr McMahon character off the bat because he'd already done it in Memphis as a foil for Lawler, if I recall. He did, and some of the promos are loving amazing. If you search for McMemphis on Youtube, the entirety of the angle is in chronological order. Vince McMahon's Gomer Pyle impression is pretty good, too.
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what date was the smackdown show where angle made pedo sounding threats towards rey mysterio?
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Thauros posted:You can watch day 1 of the Tag League for free to get a bit of a taste: Thanks. I think there's a nazi tag team.
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Frankston posted:Thanks. I think there's a nazi tag team. Oh that's just the Bullet Club, they're not Nazis, they're dirty foreigners headed up by a flippy twink. Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Nov 26, 2015 |
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Nov 26, 2015 14:40
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Isnt that The Addiction not the BC?
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Christopher Daniels actually is a nazi, so that would make sense
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Nazis? In New Japan? ...oh
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Frankston posted:Thanks. I think there's a nazi tag team. As some others have said that's probably the Addiction. Chris Daniels is the Ring General so he wears a fancy military jacket And I guess Kazarian might also look like some kind of white supremacist if you get that vibe from Daniels, since he's got a biker vest with a million patches on it
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DynamiteKidd posted:As some others have said that's probably the Addiction. Chris Daniels is the Ring General so he wears a fancy military jacket That's because he's THE HEAVY METAL REBEL FRANKIE KAZARIAN
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The Addiction are so loving good. Are they getting proper love in NJPW?
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rotinaj posted:The Addiction are so loving good. Are they getting proper love in NJPW? I hope Daniels is extolling the appletini over the sake.
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What was RINGS? From the information I can find it was either a promotion that mixed shoot and worked matches or a puro fed that slowly went legit. How correct is that
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Smoking Crow posted:What was RINGS? From the information I can find it was either a promotion that mixed shoot and worked matches or a puro fed that slowly went legit. How correct is that The latter is pretty accurate. It was a shoot style group that slowly became a full shoot as Maeda's career wound down.
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So, the pose. Who did it first, after the statue anyway, Tanahashi or Orton? My thoughts are likely Orton as I haven't seen Tanahashi before Wrestle Kingdom 3 in 09 where he used it, but I simply don't know. Second question, When is the last time Mutoh did the Space Rolling Elbow? Video games still gave it to him well into his bald, knee you in the face run, but I never remember seeing him do it after cutting his hair off and changing his style. remusclaw fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Smoking Crow posted:What was RINGS? From the information I can find it was either a promotion that mixed shoot and worked matches or a puro fed that slowly went legit. How correct is that Both. Started out as all works and started mixing in more and more shoots until it became all shoot.
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remusclaw posted:So, the pose. Who did it first, after the statue anyway, Tanahashi or Orton? My thoughts are likely Orton as I haven't seen Tanahashi before Wrestle Kingdom 3 in 09 where he used it, but I simply don't know. Do you mean Okada's Rainmaker pose? Tanahshi's done it in matches against Okada to mock him but they're slightly different poses regardless. Orton raises the left arm higher and his head is angled off to the side whereas Okada's head is tilted back and up and both arms are at the same height.  vs  edit: huh maybe I'm wrong 
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Eh, he was doing it after he beat Mutoh at Wrestle Kingdom 3, so it does predate Okada. Even earlier:  The last is from 2006 in in this match against AJ Styles in TNA; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR4Tt_BSMZ0 time stamp 1:40. Hard to say if it counts, even then Orton was legend killing as of the year prior, when did he start doing it? This match also ends with AJ Styles hitting the Clash with no arm hooks, did he not add that until later, or was it just a weird outlier? That match sent me looking for a Tanahashi v Scott Hall 2001 G1 match I could not find but I did get to see him and Kesuke Sasaki fight The Steiner Brothers in 01, including Tanahashi Taking a Screwdriver. remusclaw fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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i liked tanahashi's bouncy walk he used to do and does in that wrestle kingdom recap youtube
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remusclaw posted:time stamp 1:40. Hard to say if it counts, even then Orton was legend killing as of the year prior, when did he start doing it? The pose is one of the two things randy has pretty much always done (the other being the headlock of course)
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Did Orton start doing the pose before he got 'Burn in my light'? That was in 2004.
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HerraS posted:Did Orton start doing the pose before he got 'Burn in my light'? That was in 2004. Yup, he had the pose and the old Evolution theme when he won the title at Summerslam 2004.
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he had the pose before he got hurt and kept us updated with the RNN hell he is doing the pose in the opening of all his trons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjGbT0l637Q I dont know if this is one of his official trons but he is kinda doing it before jumping off the ropes in it AkumaHokoru fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Reminder that Randy's first finisher was the crossbody version of the High Fly Flow, to continue the Tanahashi parallel.
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Gaz-L posted:Reminder that Randy's first finisher was the crossbody version of the High Fly Flow, to continue the Tanahashi parallel. He got mad height with it, too
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AkumaHokoru posted:he had the pose before he got hurt and kept us updated with the RNN hell he is doing the pose in the opening of all his trons I think that's just because doing a crossbody without extending your arms would be kinda dumb someone has probably done it though edit: rey mysterio looked dumb when he did that
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It's crazy that someone in the past 15 years used a flying crossbody as a finish
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Luigi Thirty posted:Vince respected Jerry a lot because Vince Sr. was very close to him. Jerry said they'd just talk on the phone for hours every Sunday when Vince was in the shits with the steroid trial. Vince was sure he was going to go down and after a few weeks of persuading convinced Jerry to agree that if he went down, Jerry would take over the office in his place because he didn't trust anyone in his inner circle to see the big picture. Then Nailz happened and it never came to that. But yeah, the trial was in Long Island right down the block from Nassau Coliseum (R.I.P.). Not sure why it was there, or why civilians were welcome to just come in and watch. But it made for a very surreal summer for young Minidust and his dad!
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Public trials are pretty important to our legal system. And yeah, when the New Generation Podcast quoted Nailz's testimony I couldn't stop laughing. Good old Nailz, immediately flip flopping in court and being a heel for not wanting to be police brutalized.
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Minidust posted:I just want to say that I was literally in the room when Nailz happened and it was pretty great. The big galoot had no idea what the word "animosity" meant. TBF the prosecution testimony of Hogan and Warrior probably helped Vince just as much. Basically everyone's line was "yeah I used steroids but Vince never gave them to me." If have to go back and check but it was a jurisdictional issue, where they caught the steroid deals at the Nassau Coliseum.
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Ah, that all makes sense. I'll have to check out that New Generation Podcast. I recall a lot of time being spent with Zahorian, the steroid doctor, but obviously my 13-year-old self was marking hard when Hogan, Warrior, Big John Studd (via telephone) and Nailz took the stand. And Afa was sitting in the seat behind us. My late grandpa was actually visible in a news clip they used in the Hogan vs. Vince video package at Wrestlemania 19  .
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Somewhere I have a photograph of my grampa shirtless in his 60s and posing next to a cardboard cutout of Nailz. I don't know why this photo exists.
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Even when I was a kid I thought Nailz sucked. Maybe because I also thought the Big Boss Man sucked?
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triplexpac posted:Maybe because I also thought the Big Boss Man sucked? I hope you have since accepted that kid you was a stupid wrong person.
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