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Octopode posted:Same dev team, and it was a conversion for the same basic rendering engine as Star Citizen. Changing the scale of the game being rendered doesn't change the fundamentals of CryEngine's rendering pipeline enough to make it some entirely different project for the conversion. I know it's a new day and a new series of arguments-- but I did want to ask if you had any feedback on that non-technical question I asked a couple of days ago. You said you'd address it at a later date since you were tired when you got it. G0RF posted:But I do have to ask, Octopode-- because I really don't know-- do you have any misgivings about the funding model, selling high priced ships without limit to backers? Some find this entirely reasonable in a 'caveat emptor' sort of way-- others are disturbed by the potential downside risk and moral questions.
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Today, I opened my first mocap studio. It cost about seventy bucks because we already had one kinect, and we're testing software - it'll cost a couple hundred bucks later. The animations will need cleaning up, but they're functional. (I have shown Derek the first result) If we splurge for TWO kinects it will be even better.
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AP posted:Derek, did you seriously expect them not to support Dx12? Chris Roberts has a long history of always pushing technology in his games. Any new thing that came along he's always said Star Citizen will support it (the recent lack of interest in VR being an exception and that could be he's waiting to see how that shakes out). Does Dx12 require more work than 64 bit large world, assume for the moment that they actually did what they said they were going to do with large world even though you think they fudged it. He's not interested in VR because his idiotic head bobbling is already making many people ill. Put that dipshittery on VR goggles and 90% of the planet will be puking every time your head flails around wildly while sitting down or climbing into a cockpit, or even just jittering constantly while you're flying your spaceship at a constant speed in empty space (which should have zero jittering).
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Warcabbit posted:Today, I opened my first mocap studio. poo poo I have a kinect lying around. I'll trade it to you for a copy of the game. You already owe me a statue.
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FrankieGoes posted:He's not interested in VR because his idiotic head bobbling is already making many people ill. Put that dipshittery on VR goggles and 90% of the planet will be puking every time your head flails around wildly while sitting down or climbing into a cockpit, or even just jittering constantly while you're flying your spaceship at a constant speed in empty space (which should have zero jittering). I'm not sure if that's true. I feel that he feels that people will be tickled pink at swinging out of "their" bed, reaching their hands up to scratch "their eyes" before doing a triple backflip to the deck of their constellation before chickenwalking their way to the command chair they'll do a few circles in for good measure. It's like a living movie. Where you can really be in the place of the character. Look at how real everything feels with the inclusion of all these natural, organic movements that are just like what you would do if you were there! What a blessed relief from the static experience of watching some alien body move down a hallway without pausing to blow its nose.
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FrankieGoes posted:He's not interested in VR because his idiotic head bobbling is already making many people ill. Put that dipshittery on VR goggles and 90% of the planet will be puking every time your head flails around wildly while sitting down or climbing into a cockpit, or even just jittering constantly while you're flying your spaceship at a constant speed in empty space (which should have zero jittering).
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Dusty Lens posted:I'm not sure if that's true. I feel that he feels that people will be tickled pink at swinging out of "their" bed, reaching their hands up to scratch "their eyes" before doing a triple backflip to the deck of their constellation before chickenwalking their way to the command chair they'll do a few circles in for good measure. Sure, until they vomit in their VR headgear and then scratch their eyes with their vomit hands.
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I can't wait to see how stable the tech demo becomes when they implement sticky hands and they have to be accurately represented for each player or whatever.
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I wish one of the 20,000+ dollar whales would have the at least the little fish balls it would take to do a REAL interview. One where after this has obligatorily been said: Q: So, why'd you spend 30,000 dollars on a video game that doesn't exist from a dude that has a track record of overpromising and underdelivering, and making lovely movies? A: Because I believe in the Christ Crobberts and the project and I've been fortunate enough to be able to have that amount of disposable income. The interviewer then actually responds appropriately, i.e. with something like: Well, that's a total bullshit answer. 30 thousand dollars won't even run CIG for 4 hours, so it's not like the money you gave them makes one iota of real difference to the development of the game. And it's not like you personally could ever hope to actually get use out of all these space jpegs, even if the game does come out and is amazing, so what's the real reason? Do you have a history of OCD? Autism? Are you planning on whoring out your 30 grand worth of jpegs so that you can be the leader of a big guild, and you know there's no other way that would happen because of your severe personality disorders? Do you have a tiny penis? Is this your way of compensating? Have you been looking at your mundane life lately and decided that the best way to get attention and not feel like a nobody was to make one big stand and pay a moronic amount of money for a video game? And since your brought up your financial position, what exactly is that position? What's your annual income? Are any of these jpegs sitting on credit cards accruing interest right now? How's your retirement looking? The only problem would be if one of them actually agreed to do it, it'd be one of the 5 or 10% of the whales that actually are financially well off, rather than one of the 90% thats making 50 grand a year and living in an apartment and driving a 9 year old corolla and has been spending every spare penny they make on this dumpster fire.
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Semi related, I was once driving and I sneezed, coughed and farted all at the same time, and that made me laugh. It was one quick ATCHOOOCOUGHFART *chuckle* sort of thing, all at once. It was pretty intense and not something I wish to repeat in VR
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FrankieGoes posted:The interviewer then actually responds appropriately, i.e. with something like:
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I once represented sticky hands in VR and I feel pretty guilty about it.
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 https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3v1xne/what_i_imagine_star_citizen_to_be/
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Dec 2, 2015 05:15
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Mirificus posted:
I imagine this guy hanging from a tree in a years time
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Dec 2, 2015 05:18
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I don't know about you Unfaithful, but I can't wait to see someone use the grabby hands system in vr and disturbingly caress a box. This game is gonna own.
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has it been revealed that this entire thing is an elaborate ARG yet?
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I have a theory that the whole Grabby Hands System is there so the top tier Citizens can grab each others butts in that Gentlemens Club place while they admire and discuss each others uniforms for months
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Dec 2, 2015 05:21
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peter gabriel posted:I imagine this guy hanging from a tree in a years time Same. Jesus Christ.
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I am a gamer. And I always will be.
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FrankieGoes posted:Same.
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I am a Star Citizen. And I always will be.
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I am a pipeline extender and I always will be
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G0RF posted:Octopode: For the funding model: I think a lot of people that are concerned about the funding model like to remove all agency from the consumers, as if just because a $15,000 pack is available makes it some mandatory purchase. Are there people buying them that shouldn't be? Sure. Would those same people save that money and spend it wisely if they couldn't spend them on spaceship pictures? No, I don't believe they would. If the concern is that the large influx of cash has allowed the wheels to come off leading to an undisciplined development environment, sure, that's a reasonable point of view. If your criticism is that CIG is evil because nerds spend money poorly, well, I think your anger is misplaced--that money was spent one way or another; be it on spaceships or anime body pillow collections, and CIG's offerings aren't going to change that. Toxic workplace concerns? Frankly, it doesn't influence my views much either way. Chris and Sandi don't have programmers chained to radiators toiling away while they lash them, and honestly, I just don't care that much about the people involved and what they choose to subject themselves to; they're adults producing a product I happen to be interested in, I feel no more outrage about it or emotional connection to them than I did about, say, Foxconn's working conditions, which is to say not much. For the financial fraud: so long as they manage their financials well enough to get past the finish line, I don't think the status of the rest of their money or how they spent it matters all that much. I don't base my interest in other products on what the profit margins and spending decisions made by their producers are, and I don't see a compelling case for why that should be the case here, either. If they don't make it out the door, then there should definitely be an inquiry into why it happened, and financial mismanagement should have appropriate consequences.
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Cats, ha ha
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This cat is allergic to cats!
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Octopode, any word on Star Citizen being a complex 3D scene? Anything to say about the shader bullshit you pulled out of your rear end?
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FrankieGoes posted:I wish one of the 20,000+ dollar whales would have the at least the little fish balls it would take to do a REAL interview. One where after this has obligatorily been said: I too wish this would happen, but I will save us both the hope of waiting for it and give you a summation of their reasons in one picture: 
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tooterfish posted:This cat is allergic to cats! It's owner was doing ironing and got distracted and ironed the cat
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Octopode, did you vote Ron Paul 2012?
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Octopode posted:For the funding model: I think a lot of people that are concerned about the funding model like to remove all agency from the consumers, as if just because a $15,000 pack is available makes it some mandatory purchase. Are there people buying them that shouldn't be? Sure. Would those same people save that money and spend it wisely if they couldn't spend them on spaceship pictures? No, I don't believe they would. If the concern is that the large influx of cash has allowed the wheels to come off leading to an undisciplined development environment, sure, that's a reasonable point of view. If your criticism is that CIG is evil because nerds spend money poorly, well, I think your anger is misplaced--that money was spent one way or another; be it on spaceships or anime body pillow collections, and CIG's offerings aren't going to change that. Lol
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That is the morning look of Ben
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RuckusRouser posted:I too wish this would happen, but I will save us both the hope of waiting for it and give you a summation of their reasons in one picture:  Also, this: 
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Lord please let Octopode be a libertarian with a government job. Lord my God I don't ask for much please oh please God.
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Octopode posted:so long as they manage their financials well enough to get past the finish line, I don't think the status of the rest of their money or how they spent it matters all that much. They haven't, and won't. If 10+ million on actors and mocap, 4 or 5 mocap studios, five Constellation redesigns, their constant ramping up of cash grabbing, the third skeleton revamp, and the dozen other indications that they're completely loving the dog on a daily basis hasn't demonstrated this to you beyond a reasonable doubt, then I guess just enjoy the ride and wait for the happy ending. Even if they did manage to poo poo something out that according to your personal metrics has "passed the finish line" it's still bullshit that they've pissed away so much money because that money could have made the game that much better.
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Mirificus posted:They actually thought that was worth posting a second time: It is so head shaking sad. I know this is just one "whale" among many, but this combined with the anecdotes about WulgeWulf, gives me the feeling the mindset is shared by almost all of them.
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