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Loiosh posted:Addressed here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=632#post453381765 The troll must flow. Interfering carries the risk of the sardaukar being sicced on you.
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Iglocska posted:Here is an image of the above mentioned space cop: Careful, carebears are banned in star citizen
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:05 |
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I'm not even joking, carebear is a banned word on rsi.com forums
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:06 |
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Truga posted:I'm not even joking, carebear is a banned word on rsi.com forums What???
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:07 |
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Iglocska posted:What??? He's right.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:08 |
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For a short while "Pubbie" was as well. But someone with a brain realized they had taken the "ban any words used by goons" too far.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:11 |
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Berious posted:That looks extremely badass. I might have to buy Horizons after all. I can pretty much guarantee they're faked just because you can't "shoot out someone's forward left thruster"-- "thrusters" are a subsystem you can target and kill, but if they're off you're not moving at all. but but my realism TTerrible posted:Don't worry, not for long. Reddit have worked out how to automatically detect ramming based on keeping a history of everyones vectors. You'll be going straight to space jail. This is completely implementable and will in no way complicate this shitpile any further. Right now in E:D, if you are a "participant in a collision while you're speeding that results in the other player's death", and you're near a station, you'll get shot to death by the station itself. This has resulted in people in unshielded piece of poo poo ships intentionally ramming other players that are going too fast, blowing themselves up, and getting said other players killed for speeding. I look forward to the tears of the SC userbase when the ship being destroyed in that scenario is worth $2,000.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:12 |
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Iglocska posted:What??? According to brown sea rules, "carebear" carries the same weight as the word "psychopath". You see, people kept calling people who like playing shooty spaceships with other people psychopaths. In turn, people with irrational fear of a human player character got called carebears. Eventually, someone reported enough posts and the word carebear became a bad word. Some more people were banned for asking why the gently caress that would be a banned word. When it was finally asked why psycho isn't a banned word, that also became banned. e: so now you know. Carebears are literally worse than 10 Hitlers Truga fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Dec 2, 2015 |
# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:14 |
Loiosh posted:He forgot to mention a few: Since you know this stuff will never be fixed by mid December (two weeks!) why not bail now? You said in a previous post you would "lose faith" in CIG/RSI if x,y, & z aren't working this month. I think that is just to stave off goon criticism, like so you don't get the "this person is drawing pictures with feces" level of crazy branded on you. I am not trying to be mean, you seem nice, but your history is creating a crumb trail that should be easy to follow based on your statements and actual reality. My predictions: -You won't lose faith but you'll post that you did (cause the goonscorn, rite?) -You won't get a refund (actual proof you lost faith) cause that is well documented by you, and it seems you don't want your money back no matter then end result, but I could be wrong. -You will tell us "wow that sucks, they disappointed me" but you will justify it in your mind and wait for no reason other than to be obtusely optimistic until there is no hope of getting your money back (bankruptcy) and having participated to the full and bitter end, giving money to a company that is actively fleecing people (who have admitted to lying to their spouses to hide thousands of dollars in "donations" for pixel art) for a product that can never exist in the manner in which they promoted it to get said money. This will make you a bad person if you do this. If you do not pull your money out once you have "lost faith" you are, at that point, actively assisting CIG in scamming people, allowing them to use your funds to promote more sales to overhyped spergs who have never heard the "fool and his money are soon parted" line. Hey, but lots of people throw money away on garbage right? There is a reason why you can't tell people your product can make you a RL wizard, there are laws protecting consumers now. Mind you, if it was for an actual game, at least they got something tangible, but Croberts is building pure fantasy and plans to deliver on the very least of his promises and then blame goons/media/Ben's food budget cause reasons. Sure, backers can go off on wild tangents and invent mechanics not promised, but CIG has promised the impossible and made it seem like if you just donate enough money, you, too, can fly, whereas they are just taking people over the edge of the cliff with them. Please do not be this person. You seem chill. Pull your money out when you wake up and realize this is disturbing and growing worse with every missed date. ZenMaster fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:I can pretty much guarantee they're faked just because you can't "shoot out someone's forward left thruster"-- "thrusters" are a subsystem you can target and kill, but if they're off you're not moving at all. How does ramming work I'm star citizen currently. This is the only aspect I am currently interested in. Does ramming a shitbox into a Connie gently caress up the Connie?
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:21 |
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Crashing very much fucks poo poo up.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:23 |
Loiosh you can be my wingman anytime, also gently caress goons am i rite?!
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:24 |
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Truga posted:According to brown sea rules, "carebear" carries the same weight as the word "psychopath". I've missed out on so much delicious drama
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:26 |
Loiosh is a good person who is too invested in SC
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:26 |
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AP posted:Derek we're talked that to death, pretty much everyone here will happily accept that they'll never live up to their promises. What might still be possible is that something will emerge that allows us to bug the poo poo out of people who paid thousands for sperg chariots and is sorta, semi-playable in 2017/18 whenever. uhm, I didn't ignore it. I just didn't notice it. I did have a lot of pages to go through and I tend not to respond to all of them. Anyway, I thought that I already made a post days ago in which I explained why I don't believe they did it; and if they did, it was a hack (which is perfectly fine). What'd I miss exactly? I also made a post (in reply to you) earlier today explaining the different arguments because some people appear to be getting them all mixed up. D_Smart posted:Yeah, I missed it when it appeared in JumpPoint. But they moved it from there on Nov 30th, which is when it caught my attention. Most people probably didn't read it, let alone understand the technical nature of it.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:27 |
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spacetoaster posted:What? This can actually happen? Gameplay? Not if Shitizens have anything to say about it Edit: drat it beaten to the punch like three times
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:30 |
Star Citizen: Get a Refund or GET OUT
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:31 |
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Doctor Schnabel posted:It's kind of uncanny how this type tends to be attached to boondoggles. Wasn't the community relations guy for Duke Nukem Forever some total weirdo who ran the shop the same way, and as a result, hasn't been able to find work in any other outfit since then? Yeah, Joe Siegler. Thankyou for helping me put a finger on the cause of the lowkey deja vu i've been having for months about Ben Lesnick.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:35 |
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Reading posts from last night I'm confused. Does the goon hive mind want CIG to burn to the ground as fast as possible putting all their staff out of work? Alternatively does the goon hive mind care deeply for cig employees and are besties with them and want them to have a happy fulfilled workplace environment with no meanies ? Or is it some sort of happy mid ground where the goon hivemind wants no meanies while cig crashes and burns so staff are happy until the moment they lose their jobs when cig fails? I'm pretty drat right now.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:36 |
mashed_penguin posted:Reading posts from last night I'm confused. Does the goon hive mind want CIG to burn to the ground as fast as possible putting all their staff out of work? Alternatively does the goon hive mind care deeply for cig employees and are besties with them and want them to have a happy fulfilled workplace environment with no meanies ? Or is it some sort of happy mid ground where the goon hivemind wants no meanies while cig crashes and burns so staff are happy until the moment they lose their jobs when cig fails? Yes
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:37 |
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mashed_penguin posted:Reading posts from last night I'm confused. Does the goon hive mind want CIG to burn to the ground as fast as possible putting all their staff out of work? Alternatively does the goon hive mind care deeply for cig employees and are besties with them and want them to have a happy fulfilled workplace environment with no meanies ? Or is it some sort of happy mid ground where the goon hivemind wants no meanies while cig crashes and burns so staff are happy until the moment they lose their jobs when cig fails? We want them to pull the plane up, we recognize that the physics of flight are against them, we think it's hilarious they keep pushing the yoke forwards.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:39 |
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Sarsapariller posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3v5bcw/the_cautionary_tale_of_ultima_online_on_griefing/ Yeah. Which is why they're already freaking out about what effect Goons would have if/when this game ever gets finished. ps: Great encounter btw. Sounded like fun. D_Smart fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Dec 2, 2015 |
# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:40 |
Everyone wanted this game, everyone put up bitcoins, but goons pulled every loose tether and found cig to be incompetent at best and actively scamming at worst. Feature creep, lies, abuse of employee's, abuse of goons and a toxic community that refuses to acknowledge any wrongdoing has turned this into a popcorn fest. Also Derek motherfucking Smart! (not that derek is a mother fucker, derek is cool and good)
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:40 |
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ZenMaster posted:Since you know this stuff will never be fixed by mid December (two weeks!) why not bail now? You said in a previous post you would "lose faith" in CIG/RSI if x,y, & z aren't working this month. I think that is just to stave off goon criticism, like so you don't get the "this person is drawing pictures with feces" level of crazy branded on you. I always wonder when I'm reading something like this what the thought process is behind the post. For my own perspective, I felt I've been consistent since 2010 with my perspective, uninformed as it is, of the kind of expenses a project like this would entail. Here's the post: http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=22187877#item_22187877 - and that here I've been even and consistent on my expectations, my thoughts behind those expectations, and the opinions I hold. Have I given you reason to suspect I would be untruthful in my feelings or my response here? Does this really sound like what I've said/who I am in any post here or anywhere else, like on reddit or sn? You won't lose faith but you'll post that you did (cause the goonscorn, rite?) That I would lie about my opinion just to seek approval from a group that utterly disagrees with me on nearly any point? The most likely response, if I was dishonest, would just be to silently leave in shame and never post again. I like to think that I'm realistic in my view, if optimistic because of my years of testing various releases. I'm well aware most feel that I'm unreasonably optimistic, but if you're truly not trying to be mean, perhaps it would be best to not assume bad intention and try to predicatively assume I'm going to lie about my opinions. Having said all that, I am thinking about the 2.0 release and what it means. My original post is kind-of vague because I tend to be uncertain on things. I've mentioned before that I like to observe or be presented with sourced facts so I can form my own opinion on things, and that includes my perspective on fun. Generally I like to give it a go myself, to explore the gameplay verbs (what actions the game engine allows). I've said before that space trucking E:D style is not my thing, and why that is, but not what is beyond a few mentions of enjoying the mission design for X-Wing/Tie Fighter and the multi-stage missions of FreeSpace 2. I guess the most accurate measure would be something akin to I-War (in particular, I-War 2), where you play a corvette-sized ship. I-War 2 functioned as an open world, you could fly between systems via lagrange points, dynamically involve yourself in missions across a wide type piracy, escort, battles, and transport. So what I'd be looking for in 2.0 is the basic version of that kind of activity, but with the uniqueness of the capabilities of SC. Can I and a friend get together in a multi-crew ship? Can we travel around in space to multiple destinations and complete missions? Can we get into combat together, both controlling the systems of a single ship? And the required engine things: Is it stable for long play sessions? Can my friend join in my game? If you really want to see my opinion, I guess I could stream it. I have a computer capable of doing that and then you can watch and hear directly how I feel. I can try that when the public release comes. If my friend is willing to join in I'll do that and then you can legitimately judge along side. He's a streamer himself, but tends to focus on playing retro games.
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mashed_penguin posted:Reading posts from last night I'm confused. Does the goon hive mind want CIG to burn to the ground as fast as possible putting all their staff out of work? Alternatively does the goon hive mind care deeply for cig employees and are besties with them and want them to have a happy fulfilled workplace environment with no meanies ? Or is it some sort of happy mid ground where the goon hivemind wants no meanies while cig crashes and burns so staff are happy until the moment they lose their jobs when cig fails? For me at least, it's the last point. No one deserves to work under abusive conditions, even if it's not a true slave labor/sweatshop/Foxconn scenario. gently caress Croberts, Sandi, and the "management" team, they make-or at least enable-the (terrible) decisions that have brought us to this point. Those same people also enable the sperg whales like wesha, dickwulf, and Karl (go gently caress yourself) to be their lovely selves without any form of sanction. Sure, every regular employee is drawing a check from the KS/jpeg funds*, but they don't deserve to have their lives ruined because they chose the wrong employer. 'Contractors working on the Death Star' is still a funny analogy to make, though. *unless CIG has pissed $100m away, and they're taking loans against some form of equity, in which case
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 18:55 |
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Loiosh posted:Does this really sound like what I've said/who I am in any post here or anywhere else, like on reddit or sn? You won't lose faith but you'll post that you did (cause the goonscorn, rite?) The fact that you still haven't gotten a refund after all the information that has come out would lead a number of people to that conclusion... Your position is not one of logic or sensibility at this point.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:00 |
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mashed_penguin posted:Reading posts from last night I'm confused. Does the goon hive mind want CIG to burn to the ground as fast as possible putting all their staff out of work? Alternatively does the goon hive mind care deeply for cig employees and are besties with them and want them to have a happy fulfilled workplace environment with no meanies ? Or is it some sort of happy mid ground where the goon hivemind wants no meanies while cig crashes and burns so staff are happy until the moment they lose their jobs when cig fails? What's the funniest option? Because I vote for that.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:01 |
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I'm going to be a Space Crooked Cop that throws innocent players into Space Jail and shoot them based on what their avatar looks like under their lovely spacesuits. And I'll also have an alt account so when someone inevitably complains I can go on a "Not All Space Cops" rant.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:01 |
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D_Smart posted:uhm, I didn't ignore it. I just didn't notice it. I did have a lot of pages to go through and I tend not to respond to all of them. Nevermind, I think I found your post explaining your reasoning but I don't understand it. You don't think they did what they said they did because it's really complicated is about the best sense I can make of that. I'll be interested to see if they did implement a real 64-bit world space coordinates system or not.
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alphabettitouretti posted:What's the funniest option? Because I vote for that. Probably "all of the above" .
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:02 |
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all I care about is Huckaby going back to a job as a sports mascot, for the laffs.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:04 |
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FrankieGoes posted:I wish Bootcha and Doctor Smart would get married and adopt me. We'd all be so happy together. Every time you messed up, you'd have to listen to a ten minute monologue recounting all your past failings, with reminders peppered throughout telling you that he'd already predicted you would fail in that way months or years ago. And every single one of them would end with "End of discussion. THE END." And then he'd block you on Twitter. (i kid i kid, derek. sorta!)
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:08 |
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Truga posted:According to brown sea rules, "carebear" carries the same weight as the word "psychopath". So calling someone a carebear is completely out of line but if you've spent $32K on Star Citizen, you can get away calling for the death of CIG employees. I like how the moderator didn't even remove the offending remark but just crossed it out.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:08 |
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mashed_penguin posted:Reading posts from last night I'm confused. Does the goon hive mind want CIG to burn to the ground as fast as possible putting all their staff out of work? Alternatively does the goon hive mind care deeply for cig employees and are besties with them and want them to have a happy fulfilled workplace environment with no meanies ? Or is it some sort of happy mid ground where the goon hivemind wants no meanies while cig crashes and burns so staff are happy until the moment they lose their jobs when cig fails? 1) Chris gets sidelined into some Emeritus position (out of the day-to-day dev and unable to add yet more to the engineering debt)... 2) Sandi goes to Hollywood full-time (and off the CIG payroll) and stops her reign of terror and self-indulgence in Santa Monica... 3) Erin and other competent, reasonable, fair-minded leaders take over completely and bring Star Citizen to completion... (and it's not just folks here that want that...) Sandi and Chris are going to make fat bank on the game if it's successful, even if they're not involved in the day-to-day operations. Maybe especially if they're not. It would be hard to begrudge them too much (toxic though they appear to be) that if it meant that a lot of the good people they still have working there would get meaningful employment, a good quality of life job, a chance to steer the future development of the game, and all the rest. That's just my take.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:19 |
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G0RF posted:I think a lot of folks here would like to see something like: I don't know, I think CIG burning to the ground would be funnier than somehow salvaging the project.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:25 |
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3v41yc/psa_turn_of_hyperthreading_for_greater_performance/
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:25 |
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ZenMaster posted:Since you know this stuff will never be fixed by mid December (two weeks!) why not bail now? You said in a previous post you would "lose faith" in CIG/RSI if x,y, & z aren't working this month. I think that is just to stave off goon criticism, like so you don't get the "this person is drawing pictures with feces" level of crazy branded on you. I personally don't care either way. But it's money to spend as he sees fit.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:30 |
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Citizens, do not be concerned. The improved dispatching in the DX12 pipeline will fix this issue. Two weeks.
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 19:30 |
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Mirificus posted:
8 points (66% upvoted) Cultists are downvoting a helpful technical support thread because it says Fart Shitizen has a poor implementation of some technical thing
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Mirificus posted:
So the exact opposite of what more modern games are doing in preparation of DX12. I guess its just another thing CRoberts said they were doing that isn't materializing the way they were planning. (He mentioned how Cryengine is mostly single threaded and they were writing code to take advantage of hyperthreading) Seriously, for a more recent example of a team actually getting their ancient engine more multi threaded, look at fallout 4. Its running on gamebryo, an engine everyone loving hates but bethesda keeps using because its what they have and because of the development kits they can keep recycling. Its properly multithreaded. There are some decent gains from having an i7 over an i5, which a few years ago was almost unheard of. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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